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Fellaini was offsides
Mata wasn't though.Fellaini was offsides
Technically he was. Fellaini was also technically offside. But it's so close that the assistant refs can't be blamed.Mata wasn't though.
He was.Mata wasn't though.
Maybe technically, but the law is messed up if that isn't offside.Chris Foy said that Fellaini wasn't offside...
Morgan trying to block the cross and the ball going to Fellaini as a result played him onside..
Did Morgan gets a touch though? Also wasnt Fellaini offside when the ball was hit?Chris Foy said that Fellaini wasn't offside...
Morgan trying to block the cross and the ball going to Fellaini as a result played him onside..
By being in an offside position.How the feck was mata offside?
Yes he is, but usually he is consistently poor, today he was just poor!he is just a poor ref.
The rule is simple, if the player touches the ball doing something that isn't accidental his touch counts.. Thats why Fellaini was on.. Chris Foy said so.. And left Savage of his rockers..Maybe technically, but the law is messed up if that isn't offside.
Yeah the ball went of his knee. So even if Fellaini was off when the pass came his touch played Fellaini on..Did Morgan gets a touch though? Also wasnt Fellaini offside when the ball was hit?
Wtf is this? Do you know him?A 5/10 performance from him today. He thinks he's a better ref than he is. I always dread the games whenever he's in charge.
Yeah I heard what he said and understand it, but it is still mental. Felliani was in an offside position when Lingard played the ball, and just because the defender made an attempt to block the pass the 'new phase' shouldn't mean he is no longer able to be offside.The rule is simple, if the player touches the ball doing something that isn't accidental his touch counts.. Thats why Fellaini was on.. Chris Foy said so.. And left Savage of his rockers..
It is. It's not in the 'spirit of football', but it is currently the law- as stupid as it is.So now is it always onside even if it slightly deflects off a players boot? Surely can't be the case.
Is it a new law? Has to be as that goes against everything I've ever known about football. The amount of slightly deflected through balls to offside players we will have seen...should they have been counted as onside all along?It is. It's not in the 'spirit of football', but it is currently the law- as stupid as it is.
Nope- been around for ages. If the defender intentionally plays the ball (even if it is not a 'controlled attempt') it is classed as a new phase of play.Is it a new law? Has to be as that goes against everything I've ever known about football. The amount of slightly deflected through balls to offside players we will have seen...should they have been counted as onside all along?
Errrm... wouldn't that mean that a goalkeeper saving the ball should be the same? So no rebound goal could ever be offside? I'm confused.The rule is simple, if the player touches the ball doing something that isn't accidental his touch counts.. Thats why Fellaini was on.. Chris Foy said so.. And left Savage of his rockers..
Yeah the ball went of his knee. So even if Fellaini was off when the pass came his touch played Fellaini on..
Apparently not... I would think not, Foy must know the rules.. One would think..Errrm... wouldn't that mean that a goalkeeper saving the ball should be the same? So no rebound goal could ever be offside? I'm confused.
It must be something to do with how it is actually worded... but an attempted block of a shot or cross, and a attempted save, seem so very similar in their intention that one does wonder how they believe it can differ apart from a keeper's save not counting... but an attempted pass by the keeper that is intercepted by someone in an otherwise offside position is supposed to be ok...Apparently not... I would think not, Foy must know the rules.. One would think..
It being accidental has nothing to do with it. By touching the ball you're affecting the play. Fellaini's goal was offside and Mata's wasn't.Apparently not... I would think not, Foy must know the rules.. One would think..
Me too.. Really strange this...It must be something to do with how it is actually worded... but an attempted block of a shot or cross, and a attempted save, seem so very similar in their intention that one does wonder how they believe it can differ apart from a keeper's save not counting... but an attempted pass by the keeper that is intercepted by someone in an otherwise offside position is supposed to be ok...
Still confused.
Not according to Foy it's actually vise versa..It being accidental has nothing to do with it. By touching the ball you're affecting the play. Fellaini's goal was offside and Mata's wasn't.
Sounds like Foy is sticking up to his mates to me. The deflection (was there one even one?) does not create a new phase of play.Me too.. Really strange this...
Not according to Foy it's actually vise versa..
Mata's left foot was offside by the smallest margins and according to Foy Morgans interference trying to block the shot and deflecting the ball played Fellaini on..
You're right to be confused because it's incorrect. A keeper saving the ball would be no different than a deflection but that's a moot point as neither creates a new phase of play and thus Fellaini was offside.It must be something to do with how it is actually worded... but an attempted block of a shot or cross, and a attempted save, seem so very similar in their intention that one does wonder how they believe it can differ apart from a keeper's save not counting... but an attempted pass by the keeper that is intercepted by someone in an otherwise offside position is supposed to be ok...
Still confused.
Yeah, so you're blind too? Clearly wasn't.By being in an offside position.
Doesn't matter anyway, lukaku always goes the same way. He's a pointless penalty taker when you have players like Mata android pogba on the pitch.I find it unforgivable that he let Schemiecal get 3 feet off the line on the PK w/o calling it for a re-take. Terrible.
Neither have I. He should be vilified for his haircut alonenever ever like this ref. feck oliver!
Chris Foy said that Fellaini wasn't offside...
Morgan trying to block the cross and the ball going to Fellaini as a result played him onside..
Foy is speaking utter nonsense, ex-ref or not. Laws of the game:Did anyone else see Chris Foy on BT Sport saying Fellaini wasn't offside because Wes Morgan was intentionally playing the ball? Absolutely bizarre. Had Savaged baffled. His explanation was that he was intentionally playing the ball as he was trying to block the shot.
So now is it always onside even if it slightly deflects off a players boot? Surely can't be the case.
I think Foy genuinely didn't know the rules but then he's a professional ref so surely not. Baffling to say the least though. Saying Wes Morgan intentionally playing the ball to Fellaini as though it was a dodgy back-pass or something..
In fact, the rules have a scenario exactly like this:“gaining an advantage by being in that position” means playing a ball
i. that rebounds or is deflected to him off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent having been in an offside positionA player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent, who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save), is not considered to have gained an advantage.
ii. that rebounds, is deflected or is played to him from a deliberate save by an opponent having been in an offside position
He kind of mentioned this:Foy is speaking utter nonsense, ex-ref or not. Laws of the game:
In fact, the rules have a scenario exactly like this:
His taking was that Morgans deflection was deliberate so it fits the rule..A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent, who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save), is not considered to have gained an advantage.