If blocking a shot is an equally deliberate action to under-hitting a back pass or just passing it to an opponent, then the rules are fecking bonkers. I refuse to believe it.
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See the other part of that quote - it specifically states that it is offside if it's a deflection. The rules see deflections and saves as the same thing in this regard. You're right to be baffled, Foy was talking out of his ass.
Indeed, and it's not correct. You can find loads of offsides given for that and I don't believe for one second that it's the reason Oliver didn't give the one last night. It wasn't given because it was incredibly tight, and if in doubt the ref (or assistant) has to let it go - the benefit of the doubt goes to the attacker, in this case.
Terrible ref.
That was a clear pen, good decision
Michael Oliver aka man on a mission.
I'm sure you wouldn't be saying that if we got one like that against Chelsea today.
It was shoulder to shoulder.
if anything he missed one first half
Its not just that he is a woeful ref, its even worse because he is also very smug too.
no it wasn't Sterling was in front and push in the back
Only thing clear about that penalty is the fact that Oliver has made a mistake.
You need to go rewatch it again.
I will need to see it again but it looked a pen to me.
Made me think of that foul on Rashford by Demichelis a couple of seasons back. Most blatant pen ever and Oliver didn't give it, then he gives that. Joke of a ref.
You usually only see defenders get cheap calls like that. Sterling needs nothing to fall over and someone like Monreal being so much stronger like that...
Sanchez would never had gotten a penalty there.
Sanchez would never had gotten a penalty there.
Looked a pretty blatant penalty.
if he'd given that at the other end you would all be saying it was a blatant penalty
The fact that this discussion is taking place (the pk call), should be enough to convice anyone it was not a stonewall pen and was as soft as the fk moments before.
Man who loves being touched inappropriately by city players gives them a soft pen, what a surprise
Indeed. They're Manchester United fans watching Manchester City, with exactly as much bias as you'd expect.
oh I know I just hope they know they are just being biased
sterling was never in control of the ball for me
I'm sure when Morgan does that to Sterling in a few weeks you'd be the first one to moan if a foul is given.
you don't actually have to be in control of the ball to be fouled
yes, I would moan at Wes Morgan for being an utter moron in fouling him needlessly, as well as being shocked he was playing at left back
If I started a discussion saying the earth is flat should that then be enough of a basis to convince people the earth is flat?
Good guy Oliver 
No, theres no evidence supporting that, whereas we are watching a refereeing team having trouble with basic decisions. This offsides call is another brilliant example.
How was that not ruled offside?
shit ref
From the replays it looks like it wasn’t offside
What a joke of a ref. It is starting to become clear that he is biased towards certain teams. He is not even making an effort anymore to hide it.
What? They’ve shown four replays and every one shows it was clearly offside. Wtf
I'm convinced you're a troll.
Michael Oliver's face is so annoying it affects my judgment of him as a referee. He could make the clearest, most correct call ever and I'd still doubt the guy because he winds me up so much.
He's a fecking shite ref too.
He's a fecking shite ref too.
Nah I’m just enjoying the irony of United fans moaning about biased refs after all the years you had them.
From the replay it looked like Koschielny and possibly even Bellerin we’re playing Silva onside, certainly close enough for doubt in the assistants mind, which in case you forgot, the benefit of goes to the attacker
You're enjoying it by purposely spouting nonsense and winding people up. That's what a troll does.
The offside decision was a shocker but the penalty was the right call.
So two wrongs make a right? Also, you are clearly wrong. Ridiculous
idiot
Agreed, I thought it was a pen but the offside decision was definitely incorrect.
not because the decision was close, they showed the freeze frame of when the pass was made, he wasn't miles off and was pretty much inline with the 2 players I mentioned, he may well have been offside but you lot are acting like he was off by yards he wasn't it was pretty close.
Also the offside call wasn't even made by Oliver so it's not even relevant