This is a real through the looking glass thread
Mino Raiola has died
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Social media happened and humanity is fecked
RIP, to a man that mostly was just defending the best for his clients, the players. Who should have as many rights as they can likewise the clubs.
Really sad for his family as it’s a young age to go
Will always despise him though
Will always despise him though
RIP big man.
Whether you liked him or not, he was one of the best in the business of football.
Whether you liked him or not, he was one of the best in the business of football.
My life's great, how tragic is yours that you make assumptions about other people's based on a single post?Bahahahaha.
I see Mino got a prime plot in your amygdala to be laid to rest by the looks of it.
How tragic a life do you have to lead to come on a forum and post something like this about somebody that's just died.
I'm responding to the comments about his ability as an agent. Nothing personal against the guy, he was just one of many. He didn't have any relevance to my life when he was alive and he doesn't now he's died. Nobody here is a friend or relative of him, I don't think it's necessary to speak positively about him just because he died. People die all the time.
Fair points, agents aren't solely responsible. But they do have a significant impact on careers. If they can be lauded for getting a player a move, they can be criticised when a player's career is struggling. The same argument can be made. People laud agents when their player gets a big move, but they weren't the sole person responsibility. Football clubs want to buy footballers, and will pay big transfer fees and offer huge wages, even if the player doesn't have an agent or not a professional agent. Agents are just in the thick of it trying to get a piece of the pie.
I did not have a nice word to say about him while he was alive and I will not be a hypercrite and say nice things about him now he has died. I feel Raiola was one of the worst things that happen to football and I have been fan of the game for 60 years. I don't think Raiola had any love for the game it was just a means to an end. The top players he represented where just chess pieces to him that he could move around every two or three years, in order for him to get a slice of the transfer fee. His clients disrupted the teams they were on because they have no loyalty, clubs were consently required to downplay rumours that this player or that player was moving to another team. Raiola was not the cause of this game bowing down to the all mighty dollar but he was among the worst examples of what is wrong with the game today. I am not happy he is dead and I feel sorry for his family, but I won't shed any tears for the man himself.
No white text. Well done. I appreciate it when people don't spoon-feed their sarcasm.
I like the way people are saying 'Rest In Peace' before launching diatribes at the man and his character.
Why are you saying RIP at all if you don't mean it?
Why are you saying RIP at all if you don't mean it?
Mendes > Raiola. Fight me fanboys.
So what happens to his clients then? Do they all get poached by Mendes, Zahavi and the like?
A pretty big summers coming up for a lot of them - Pogba, Haaland, Mazraoui, Gravenberch are either all free agents or looking for moves.
A pretty big summers coming up for a lot of them - Pogba, Haaland, Mazraoui, Gravenberch are either all free agents or looking for moves.
City are lucky. He was literally the only downside to signing Haaland.
RIP
RIP
I see a Netflix series in there
Raiola never used contracts with any of his clients. They were free to leave whenever. For his Dutch clients, I think Ali Dursun (FDJ, VDB, Malacia) will tap in. The really high profile ones will probably flock to Mendes and such.
Maybe I’ve missed some posts but can you point me to people being fanatical about his agency?
It's another instance of a straw man that someone has created in their head to come out swinging. It's all over the forum.
Ah I see. Thanks for the info. I guess there'll be a grace period before the scramble begins. But surely his clients are going to be asking advisors where they go from here. Pogba is in a precarious position having played this out as he has? It would be interesting to see the inner working for situation as unprecedented as this, for sure.I see a Netflix series in there
Raiola never used contracts with any of his clients. They were free to leave whenever. For his Dutch clients, I think Ali Dursun (FDJ, VDB, Malacia) will tap in. The really high profile ones will probably flock to Mendes and such.
I don’t think this’ll have much of an effect on the majority of his clients. He has been very ill for a long time now, there would be precautions in place
I will give it a week and see if he tweets again.
For all the hateful things said against him at the time, he was clearly an incredible agent for his clients. Must be very hard on his loved ones to lose him so young.
No United fan will love what he stood for, and maybe no football should. Still a man with a family etc. An innovator even if the innovation was arguably levels of greed not seen before. Young man and hopefully his family find peace of mind
That’s interesting and sheds a new light on him… basically separates him from record labels etc. While he gets trashed talk for let’s face it beating us at the business game. People should ask themselves if he’s such s Cnut why do all these players like and trust him so much.I see a Netflix series in there
Raiola never used contracts with any of his clients. They were free to leave whenever. For his Dutch clients, I think Ali Dursun (FDJ, VDB, Malacia) will tap in. The really high profile ones will probably flock to Mendes and such.
Could either of them sell a Maguire to Stoke on a Tuesday night is the ultimate goat question.
Anyone know the cause of death? Seems a very sudden down turn?
Liver cancer?
Liver cancer?
For real. This guy has more lives than a frog, he croaks it every night!
I agree it's not necessary to speak positively of him, but just wanted to point out that you can't know that though.
You don't have to like someone to wish them RIP. It's just football. Now if he murdered little kids then you'd see more of may he rot in hell eternally.I like the way people are saying 'Rest In Peace' before launching diatribes at the man and his character.
Why are you saying RIP at all if you don't mean it?
We all want better deal for ourselves. Be it haggling for work contract or haggling at flea market. He just did it at higher level
RIP to the GOAT, wonder how this changes the landscape of the market going forward if at all.
Enough virtue signalling.
He was a cnut. No tears shed here.
He was a cnut. No tears shed here.
FFS. How typical that the season Haaland moves to City his agent dies. Coincidence or..?
RIP to Mino R but this man represented all that was toxic about the agent culture in contemporary sport.
Yes, football clubs are huge business entities and are not saints but agents like Mino are the classic parasitical rent seekers who place themselves in the middle, making huge bank for themselves out of manipulating players and situations.
I"m sorry to say this but the less of his type in contemporary sport the better. These kind of agents are part of the structural problems of football and part of the reason obscene amounts of money are paid in general to footballers who have little of the drive or commitment of far better players in better, more reasonable times in the game.
Yes, football clubs are huge business entities and are not saints but agents like Mino are the classic parasitical rent seekers who place themselves in the middle, making huge bank for themselves out of manipulating players and situations.
I"m sorry to say this but the less of his type in contemporary sport the better. These kind of agents are part of the structural problems of football and part of the reason obscene amounts of money are paid in general to footballers who have little of the drive or commitment of far better players in better, more reasonable times in the game.
People actually get more ofended by an agent getting money from private corporations than polititians who take your tax money to their offshore accounts.
I have no time for those politicians either and in fact the politicians who make laws in so called democracies to vote themselves increasing salaries, benefits and other privileges are far worse as this legal corruption is just another normal day in normal politics.
However, we're talking about rent seeker agents like Mino R because he is the focus and if anybody can give me any shred of evidence that such parasitical enrichers of themselves are beneficial to contemporary football and to the people who continue to turn out to support their teams, buy their merchandise etc etc, then sorry, you're speaking out of the proverbial backside.
RIP, always saddening to hear of people's passing
The false empathy all over here and the internet is ridiculous. Yes it's sad someone died far too young, but who really cares? If he wasn't dead people would be calling him a cnut like usual.
Once someone is dead they willl be remembered for the deeds they have done. And from the fans side obviously his deeds have been bad and/or disrespectful. I dont agree that you have to act like a twat everytime to get what you want in business, the key here is everytime, not occasionally. Mutual respect goes a long way. But I can see how his family sees a different type of person and instead think of him who works hard to protect his clients for obvious reasons.
I won't pretend I'm sad or anything but every soul deserves to rest in peace.
I won't pretend I'm sad or anything but every soul deserves to rest in peace.
I respect his hustle, Get as much money as you can, feed the players you represent then feed yourself, we are talking about a trillion pound sport.
If you're willing to give, I'm willing to take.
R.I.P
If you're willing to give, I'm willing to take.
R.I.P
False sentiment is one of the greatest contrivances of the internet age; saying 'RIP' isn't some qualifier to then go on to state what you really think and feel, least it shouldn't be.
I think it was more that he talked about Pogba leaving every international break the last 3-4 years.
Zero respect for the supporters and creating uncertainty within the dressing room.
So sitting here suddenly pretending to care and beeing political correct feels fake as feck.