Alright, hopefully you'll calm down and get into the swing of the Forum now, instead of spamming all the time.
Why did you post the exact same thread on multiple different Forums though?
Modrić winning the Ballon D'or in 2018 may have been a curse in disguise for the public perception about him
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Why did you post the exact same thread on multiple different Forums though?
r/soccer and a Barca forum i get. I don't know why you choose a Manchester United forum to spam threads about Madrid and Barcelona related stuff, though.
either messi or salah had the best year that year from an individual point of view. however, modric was definitely player of the tournament at a world cup where his team made the final and that clearly helped him out with regards to the ballon dor. also, he was involved in another champions league win.
he achieved more than most at team level but yeah as i said its an individual award.
he achieved more than most at team level but yeah as i said its an individual award.
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You're a bloody nutter.
It's not like there aren't plenty of users loudly complaining about the RYM charts all the time, including Radiohead albums.Wouldn't bother getting worked up about RYM. The fact they've got 3 Radiohead albums (including #1 and #2) in their top 10 all time chart says it all
Perhaps I am in some ways. I have Asperger Syndrome.
Possibly the most pretentious website on the planetWouldn't bother getting worked up about RYM. The fact they've got 3 Radiohead albums (including #1 and #2) in their top 10 all time chart says it all
Don’t get bullied into things, mate. You’re entitled to continue to do as you please unless an actual moderator or admin says otherwise.
Should of never won it to begin with. He and no other player was no where near to being the best in the world bedside Ronaldo and Messi. FIFA was tired of the same one winning which was BS. Madrid is a great midfielder no doubt but he has never reached the level of being considered by anyone "the best player in the world".
The Ballon d'Or isn't FIFA and it's not about the best player in the world. Now weirdly enough the FIFA award is supposed to celebrate the best player in the world and they gave it to Modric which shouldn't have happened.
Ronaldo was scoring the goals (which is normal) but wasn't more influencial in the general play than Modric for Madrid that year, and Modric was the best player for a team that reached the WC final (though he wasn't the best player at the WC imo, Hazard was but Belgium didn't reach the finals so it was awarded to Modric).
Modric's Ballon D'or win was certainly more about the idea of a player like him winning it as opposed to being proof that he had an empirically better year than Ronaldo or Messi, but I don't mind that.
Iniesta after 12 beers would still be better than Modric. That award was a joke aimed at people who don't watch football.
At their highest level, yes Iniesta will always been seen as the better player of the 2. But during Iniesta's last 3 seasons in Spain, Modric was the better player.
If that's true(gotta be careful with so many wums around), then fair enough, enjoy your time here!
Thanks! I'll be careful.
That's what I mean. Iniesta, Busquets and Xavi were significantly better than Modric and they didn't come close to the balon d'or.
Its crazy to think that while Iniesta was one of the greatest and most talented players ever, he was never close to being as good as Messi. Any other decade and he would have won 1 or 2 Balons. Xavi too.
The fact that Modrić won the Ballon D'or while Xavi and Iniesta is almost always mentioned whenever I see Modrić being mocked and called "most overrated player in the world" in internet. The bitterness over Modrić's win has clouded the judgment of many people.
Modric winning the Ballon D'or is clearly influenced by him playing for Real Madrid and Ronaldo leaving them that year, it was clearly influenced by Perez who wanted to show Ronaldo and other player that playing for Madrid can get you individual trophies easier than playing for other clubs. Now, maybe it was even deserved considering Modric's had good year back then, but he would never have won it if he didn't play for Real Madrid.
It's not bitterness towards Modric, it's towards Real Madrid mostly. Pretty sure many people here would give it to Modric few years back easily, but not that year.
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I would not day Modric was the catalyst in Croatia tbh. It was very much a team effort. Take out rakitic and they don't make it, just like Modric. He just was not the best player in the world in 2018.
This isn't even about Ronaldo either its just that no one is better then Ronaldo and Messi, None make as much of an impact or difference. You could argue he was not even the 3rd best player in the world.
I think FIFA saw him making the WC Final as the ideal "reasoning" for dethroning the two football gods and give football a breath of fresh air.
Also about the Madrid statement. You can say that but at the same time...when Ronaldo left that summer Modric the recently voted best in the world had a below average year and Madrid was in shambles. So who really was the most influential player on that team?
Hell I would argue if Ronaldo stays in Madrid that year he would of won it and rightfully so. He was the spear head of a CL 3 peat (historic feat) I do think him leaving may have led to the Modric win.
Makes sense. My complaint is only directed towards people who forget how good Modrić was in previous season in which he was truly great and clearly better than in 2018, blind by his Ballon D'or.
I would make a few less threads within such a short time, but these OPs are full of great details and are well thought out.
It’s great to see different types of posters on the boards and I know myself, from having a son on the spectrum, how he can become obsessed with details and finds it very difficult to avoid certain patterns of behavior.
I think it’s great that you are willing to learn and listen to criticism but it’s obvious from the amount of research in the OPs that you have a lot to contribute!
Don’t take too much of the criticism to heart, as people can be impatient and inflexible over the most mundane things and their lack of patience and understanding says more about them than it does about you.
As for Modrić, I see it as similar to Giggs PFA win. It is a celebration of a great footballer and the World Cup gave them an opportunity to do just that.
The prize should have been Messi’s or Ronaldo’s every year, but they obviously wanted to seize the chance to do something different and retain interest in the award.
History will remember that he won it and I am sure that is all that matters to him.
It’s great to see different types of posters on the boards and I know myself, from having a son on the spectrum, how he can become obsessed with details and finds it very difficult to avoid certain patterns of behavior.
I think it’s great that you are willing to learn and listen to criticism but it’s obvious from the amount of research in the OPs that you have a lot to contribute!
Don’t take too much of the criticism to heart, as people can be impatient and inflexible over the most mundane things and their lack of patience and understanding says more about them than it does about you.
As for Modrić, I see it as similar to Giggs PFA win. It is a celebration of a great footballer and the World Cup gave them an opportunity to do just that.
The prize should have been Messi’s or Ronaldo’s every year, but they obviously wanted to seize the chance to do something different and retain interest in the award.
History will remember that he won it and I am sure that is all that matters to him.
Hear, hear.
Everything that you said is spot-on! Thanks too!
Modric winning the Ballon d'Or when neither Iniesta nor Xavi managed it was just a question of timing. Hardly reflects on Modric one way or another. Plus these individual awards are only ever so much about who is actually the best player. Messi and Ronaldo have won plenty, so if some other excellent footballer gets acknowledged every now and again then that's fine by me.
This. Keep being you. Been a tough month or two football discussion wise with season postponed. Any meaningful discussion that keeps the caf going is encouraged. The world is in hard times so do what makes you happy and if you feel particularly abused by anyone, let us know via the report function.
Great post @Maluco
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Thanks to all of you for the support! I'm really happy and glad! Thank you!
Still waiting for your reply on who and where think less of Modric because of undeserved award?
Random people online. Like when Oh My Goal made a poll about overrated players. Modrić was leading and there were many comments trashing him. And in Iniesta and Xavi videos on YouTube too.
Yeah right no need to underrate Modric, he is pretty close to Xavi level when everything is said and done, unlucky to be born Croatian instead of Spanish you could say otherwise he would have the all round career any of those players had.