Kyle Walker had a little get together with some escorts as well a couple of weeks, you would have thought they would pay a bit hush money or in the case of Keane not to be be stupid enough to left someone film it all.
Moise Kean | Everton player
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Turns out Souness was spot on about him.
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I’m assuming he’s describing the hookers he’s hired?
Joking aside what a complete Arsewipe he must be.
I’m assuming he’s describing the hookers he’s hired?
Joking aside what a complete Arsewipe he must be.
what the heck is BCD football
Behind Closed Doors.
But Souness is an obvious racist and all that.
Daft young lad in a different country and too much money. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more stories of players doing stuff like this.
Remember that others like Mason Mount broke rules too.
He’s an idiot and it’s good that he’s being disciplined but I’m interested to see how the media (if they do) views this compared to other players that have broke rules.
Remember that others like Mason Mount broke rules too.
He’s an idiot and it’s good that he’s being disciplined but I’m interested to see how the media (if they do) views this compared to other players that have broke rules.
Didn’t even read either articles, so I might be wrong here but wasn’t Grealish & Walker both slated in the media as well? Iirc, that is.
Didn’t know Pogba was involved too?
I agree. In real life you definitely don't wanna know 90-95% of players. Footballers are good when they play football and that's it.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
When a big club is happy to offload a highly rated kid unexpectedly, then there's usually good reason for it. Everton got absolutely mugged, and Marcel Brands should get the chop for signing him.
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He'll get far less coverage than Walker or Grealish (both of who were plastered all over the front pages) did, because he's not English and not really that famous.
As for Mount, he was playing football (before the national guidelines were in place), dumb but not really the same as the other three who were pissed up, partying with whores and smashing cars.
Reminds me of Bayern selling Schweinsteiger to United. They clearly knew he was over the hill.
Some footballers really do live up to the stereotypes, don't they? Fecking cretins.
Thankfully, a lot of them don't as we've seen during this crisis.
Thankfully, a lot of them don't as we've seen during this crisis.
Kean is still young so plenty of time to come good/settle down I suppose.
That said, I do remember this thread about Brands - https://www.redcafe.net/threads/the-importance-of-a-director-of-football-marcel-brands.450014/
Quite funny as none of the signings Everton made last summer have been successful so far.
Yeah, Brands was hailed as some fantastic DoF. Turns out a good signing on paper doesn't always translate to the pitch.
Obviously I am biased but I'd disagree. Iwobi has been a solid signing for us, nothing overly special but good. Kean has been eh but you can see the potential there and I do understand why we went for him - there's some resale value if we want to sell him too. Gbamin is far too early to say anthing about because he's not played and that's extremely unfortunate. Delph and Sidibe have been poor, granted. The capture of Gomes on a perm was a cracking signing and he's been fantastic since coming back from injury. You've got to remember that 1) Kean was bought for potential and not necessarily instant impact. 2) Two of our big signigns Gomes and Gbamin have had horrible injuries. A bit of unluckiness has played its part. Also got to remember this is the man that orchestrated the Digne and Richarlison deals who are two of our best players - Digne was a little poor this season but still very good but most FB standards. Bernard and Mina have also proven to be solid.
I still stand by my point. Brands has made a fantastic influence to our side in a tricky situation aka attempting to improve the squad while getting rid of a lot of deadwood which is hard when nobody wants them - but in the large majority of them he's made profit.
Most of the thread I was assessing how a DOF doesn't just influence transfers in terms of signing them but also the First Team to the Youth Levels, making sure that everything is running smoothly. The transition of players from Youth to the Senior side such as Gordon etc. Making sure players like Gibson get the right loan (heard he was doing very well at Fleetwood prior to this).
One mistake doesn't reflect a whole career and I don't even think Kean is a mistake. Like I said, it's a case of a teenager with too much money being told he has to stay inside by himself in a country he isn't from. Every right to discipline him and I'm glad we did but I can understand Kean and his thought process too despite it being wrong. Brands will be speaking to Kean and figuring this all out no doubt.
Worth noting too that players can change. You can scout someone for 2 years and making judgements on their character but things like a sudden shift in culture can change a players attitude without you being able to tell that. He's been disciplined fairly whenever he's done something wrong (late for meetings and now this situation) and I hope he can turn it around. He has the talent but he may just not have the attitude. Some players you excuse that for aka the reason someone like Morrison seems to always get picked up by clubs but they also need to help themselves otherwise Kean is going to have a journeyman career like Morrison.
On my phone now so not going to type loads in reply.
Agree that Kean can't be seen as a mistake yet and did say myself that he may still come good and/or settle down.
I wouldn't write any of the signings off really, even someone older like Delph. I still think it's possible to get a tune out of him.
I'm biased too, no particular dislike for Everton but they're not my team. As they're not my team I will be prone to jumping on things when they're not going great so I can laugh at them. Suppose that's what we do as football fans sometimes.
Iwobi has looked threatening for you at times when I've seen him and I'm usually loathe to judge on stats, but he just hasn't produced in that sense so far at all
I'm still comfortable saying Kean hasn't been successful so far. Perhaps he will be one day as he matures on and off the pitch.
Gbamin - as he hasn't played he's not a success. Of course one has to have sympathy for his injury so I wouldn't say failure either. He's N/A.
Gomes I thought was having a poor season pre-injury but then I won't have watched him as much as you. Thought he was ok against United which was his first start back and then you lost 4-0 against Chelsea in the next one which I didn't see. The good run of results you had in the league was all without him, although the fixture list was kind and there was possible new manager bounce in play.
Would agree on the other players, no idea on your youth.
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Horrible celebration yesterday, cringe.
It was his new dance routine.. the malfunctioning robot
Main thing I remember from him this season was Big Dunc subbing him on and off.
I honestly thought he'd be off like a shot back to Italy in January after that so credit at least he seems to want to stick around and try to be a success in premier league.
I honestly thought he'd be off like a shot back to Italy in January after that so credit at least he seems to want to stick around and try to be a success in premier league.
Apparently off on loan to PSG with an option to buy. Bizarre and out of the blue. We must have another striker coming in if that's the case.
EDIT - may be obligation to buy which means we could spend the money this season to replace him with someone with more experience to help DCL. Would make sense if so. I still feel there is quality there with him and don't regret signing him, sometimes things just don't work out between a club and player.
EDIT - may be obligation to buy which means we could spend the money this season to replace him with someone with more experience to help DCL. Would make sense if so. I still feel there is quality there with him and don't regret signing him, sometimes things just don't work out between a club and player.
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so they've replaced choupo moting with him.
one less hard worker for the team and one more diva
one less hard worker for the team and one more diva
Im not a big fan of Kean, so I personally think that would be the right decision to get rid of him. If rumours are to be believed, then its a bit of a surprise that PSG, with their attacking talent, are interested in him.
I do agree that you'd need to get a striker if he does go, though. I think Josh King be a good back up. Can play on the wings, too.
I think your club did him dirty, particularly Duncan Ferguson. Alright he might be a bit of an idiot but it seemed like the club couldn't wait to feed him to the press wolves at times rather than put an arm around him as a young kid with too much money in a post apocalyptic wasteland of a city in a strange country.
We gave him a lot of time and care but when he’s constantly turning up late for meetings/training then he’sgoing to be out of the squad. He has a lot of learning and maturing to do. I’m still on the fence about the Big Dunc thing. If he was given instructions and didn’t listen to them then it’s fair to be annoyed at that.
Since these things he’s been unfortunate that DCL has been in amazing form which has meant that he’s been reduced to 10-20 min performances and League Cup starts.
Could go either way and with DCL in this form it makes sense to cut our losses and replace him with someone else. Good luck to him in the future and he can become a very good player but as I said, he still needs to mature a bit.
it does seem a bit off, especially when they had that cringe unveiling where they told his mum they would look after him.
young players do silly things, mostly harmless, they just need some support. Didn’t look like he got that. Doesn’t look like he’s good enough, but that’s not a reason not to support him.
Yeah I would have cussed him out, thrown things, made an example of him, whatever, but behind closed doors. In front of the camera I'd be saying to the press "you don't know what the feck you're talking about, he's going to be a great player". End of the day a young lad like him needs support from his club. If you don't want to support him just don't say anything.
I think he was told these things behind closed doors and there’s a lot of times when we have talked about his talent/tried to help him but you can only help a player so much. They need to take some responsibility too.
Fine, so say nothing and move him on then. I thought the way it was handled in the press was thoroughly unprofessional, particularly from Ferguson but also the club as a whole.
Diva of a post and shows you have not watched him play.
He always tracks back, harries players and does his bit. Being a hard worker is not that important for a striker anyway and they just need to put the ball in the net. Moise Kean is better than Calvert-Lewin regardless of purple patch the latter is in, that will peter out soon enough.
Not sure enough is known about Moise Kean for someone to be a fan or not but that is an example of the nonsense he has had to face in the UK.
PSG are interested in him because he is young and talented, more so than Choupo or 50 shot, 1 goal Cavani were.
Agreed.
he’s shown nothing to warrant that.Looking at Cavani’s stats at PSG and I noticed his shots per game was pretty low, further investigation shows that his conversion rate at PSG over his time there was actually the 2nd best in Europe’s top 5 leagues.
https://www.90min.com/posts/6439558...best-conversion-rate-since-the-2012-13-season
He’s also PSG’s all time top scorer by a considerable distance.
For last 6 months he's had a manager who speaks same language (I assume he's struggled with English) and has managed countless young players with potential of Kean in his career. Still struggled to make an impact. I actually thought he'd just go back to Serie A on loan in last 6 months like Cutrone at Wolves did so PSG is interesting one.
Not sure what you are speaking about specifically, Moise Kean is the most talented striker Everton have right now or that he works hard. Because both are true.
Not sure where they got those stats PSG will tell you there is nothing to Cavani except he tracks back and anyone who watches PSG will tell you he misses a boat load of easy chances. Makes sense why PSG allowed him to go in the midst of the CL run-in.
I think that perception probably comes from from couple of seasons that he was very poor against his expected goals.
https://understat.com/player/3294
I guess he’ll just be a sub at United to bring on and offer something a bit different to Martial or maybe in the big games when you want to press hard.
That post was on 26 Oct 19 and here we go again with this entire trainwreck of a thread... underdone by racism in Italy blah blah blah... hey mama, we will protect your boy here in England blah blah blah... he’s too good for Brits now that he’s headed to France blah blah blah... next stop in twelve months Belgium or Holland, you wanna bet?
you’ve clearly not watched him for Everton. Most games he’s played he’s looked exhausted after 10 minutes and that’s not because of working hard but because he looks unfit. Most talented striker? If you say so, but that means absolutely nothing if you don’t show it. DCL has looked 10 times the player Kean does right now and that’s not even an exaggeration. That’s how big the gap is performance wise.