That's it, we're getting both
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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Some of you are setting yourselves up for some heartache. Don’t do it to yourself. He’ll be a Chelsea player very soon.
Mount v Caiceido. Chalk and Cheese.
Two very different midfielders who bring very different qualities to a team.
It was essentially a sweetener to keep him happy for the remainder of the season. They’ll have made a deal to let him go for £Xm in the summer.
The manager basically admitted as much after their last game of the season.
It's a choice between Guardiola-style: one holding #6 plus two positionally flexible #10s
-----Fernadinho
De Buyne---Silva
Or a Mourinho-syle: one holding #6 plus one energetic #8 plus one goal scoring #10
-----Makalele
--------------Essien
Lampard
If we buy Mount, we go with the first option. If we buy Caicedo, it's the second option.
I'm flipping between which of the two is my preference.
The only thing is that AWB would work better in the Kyle Walker role for option one, whereas that position doesn't really exist for option two. So option one is the is the way I'm leaning right now. It possibly fits the rest of the team slightly better.
-----Fernadinho
De Buyne---Silva
Or a Mourinho-syle: one holding #6 plus one energetic #8 plus one goal scoring #10
-----Makalele
--------------Essien
Lampard
If we buy Mount, we go with the first option. If we buy Caicedo, it's the second option.
I'm flipping between which of the two is my preference.
The only thing is that AWB would work better in the Kyle Walker role for option one, whereas that position doesn't really exist for option two. So option one is the is the way I'm leaning right now. It possibly fits the rest of the team slightly better.
Pay it and get him in. Now.
We'll probably fund it for them by coming to a compromise on Mount
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Rabiot + Caicedo >>>> Mount
We should bring in Mount next season to replace Eriksen
We should bring in Mount next season to replace Eriksen
100% agree. If we’ve held talks with both, I’ve got tingles.
Rabiot isn't coming to sit on the bench here
I had given up hope that we would be in for him this window but the tweet about Chelsea and then about our interest is definitely positive.
This would likely be the best case scenario. Be incredible business if we can convince Mount to sign on a free next summer, while picking up the other 2 this summer. A complete revamp of midfield for 80 odd million spent in transfer fees.
He'll get plenty of games, we were still in every competition until April.
Isn't he close to extending with Juventus anyway? Pretty sure I saw that somewhere
Isn’t Caicedo going to cost significantly more than Mount? Can’t see this happening.
Depends which reporter you want to believe I guess, not entirely sure who to believe.
That was the suggestion in Italy a few days ago, but today there's been a few reports we're in talks/have offered him a contract (both Italy and UK sources).
Quadruple my friend. He’ll be fine. Casemiro needs the rest.
This guy better be tier 1 before I unzip
Get it out.
Athletic if that means anything
This sounds about right
No way, I refuse to believe. More likely that De Jong joins.
Come on, Murtough you clown, prove me wrong
Come on, Murtough you clown, prove me wrong
Mount + Rabiot + Caicedo
Must mean a couple players are on the way out?
Must mean a couple players are on the way out?
I wouldn’t be against us trying the 3241 City do if we had him.
I’ve had a few drinks tonight which might be swaying my logic mind you…
I’ve had a few drinks tonight which might be swaying my logic mind you…
Not De Gea
Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Caicedo - Casemiro
Antony - Bruno - Eriksen - Garnacho
Rashford
Varane - Martinez - Shaw
Caicedo - Casemiro
Antony - Bruno - Eriksen - Garnacho
Rashford
That looks good. Just need a proper striker, a more dependable right winger, and an upgrade on Eriksen.
Nah I still see him ending up at Chelsea and Mount joining us despite what he may have said in the past about wanting to play for Utd
~230m should get us Caicedo + Rasmus + keeper + Mount
2 midfielders would mean at least 2 leave.. so
Fred + DVB for around 25m
Henderson ~20m
Telles + Bailly + Williams ~15m
If Maguire goes.. get a replacement
If ownership is decided and Kane becomes available.. stretch the budget and get the player
And this is not counting the potential sales of Martial/Sancho/Elanga/Hannibal or whoever else might leave.
and if money is tight, please get Caicedo over Mount...
2 midfielders would mean at least 2 leave.. so
Fred + DVB for around 25m
Henderson ~20m
Telles + Bailly + Williams ~15m
If Maguire goes.. get a replacement
If ownership is decided and Kane becomes available.. stretch the budget and get the player
And this is not counting the potential sales of Martial/Sancho/Elanga/Hannibal or whoever else might leave.
and if money is tight, please get Caicedo over Mount...
Only way this is remotely possible would be IF we got Mount either in January or next summerMount + Rabiot + Caicedo
Must mean a couple players are on the way out?
Now I firmly believe we're getting both Caicedo and Mount
Get it out and leave it out.
Athletic are generally reliable
Which of these qualities do we need right NOWMount v Caiceido. Chalk and Cheese.
Two very different midfielders who bring very different qualities to a team.
Just by going by the numbers on the screenshots. Its Mount. We need to upgrade eriksen.
Yeah him & Rabiot on a free is definitely an upgrade. We can then focus on finding that playmaker who can progress from deep in January or next summer
We need both a defensive mid and an attacking mid. The midfield probably has to be Casemiro and another deeper mid like Caicedo, then 3 attacking mids (Bruno, Eriksen and Mount).
We need 5 guys for the 3 spots, and we have 3.
But if it's either or, I'd take Caicedo because if we have Mount, we have nobody if Casemiro is hurt, whereas any combination of Caicedo, Casemiro, Bruno, Eriksen has some balance, and we could play the WM, a 4-2-3-1 or even just play Caicedo or Casemiro a bit higher up the pitch; Caicedo looked up for in the World Cup when he had to do it, he's plenty agile/mobile even if he's not creative, and he's been forced to defend a ton deeper for Brighton who have had no other DMs but lots of creative midfielders in front of him, and hell Casemiro seems like he would love to get into the box more and give us an actual aerial threat against teams sitting deep.
So yeah, we need both, but I'd prefer Caicedo and a flier on a cheaper #10 in the market. Young creatives like Amad or Sancho are plausible options against defensive teams as #10s too, whereas we have nothing backing up Casemiro, and Casemiro and Eriksen's legs are arleady going, someone like Caicedo helps them more than someone like Mount I'd speculate.
If we can snag Rabiot on reasonable wages, then the calculation probably changes and Mount makes a lot more sense.
Caicedo easily due to him being strong against the press and our issues being that we struggle against good high pressing teams, especially away from home. A GK who is comfortable in possession should help as well.
Mount is someone who was likely seen as a quick deal due to his contract situation and his preference to join United over Arsenal and Liverpool. But Chelsea have made things difficult and it's good to see that we've stood firm. But with Mount and Bruno as advanced #8s, ten Hag would still need to maintain balance by inverting the fullbacks into either the defensive line or coming into midfield next to Casemiro. It's why Caicedo is a better deal imo but the issue at the moment is price.
Caicedo and Rabiot for now with Mount joining us on a free would be my preference at this moment in time.
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