Ornie was just on the Spurs pregame show. He said talks between BHA and Chelsea will continue after the Chelsea game.
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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Not quite sure that’s how FFP works. From what I’ve read on here it’s a straight 5 year amortisation for FFP, irrespective of the contract length.
Its because they’re getting both players.
Chelsea are able to stall because they know their club is bigger, better squad, much better sporting project. Caicedo would likely only accept Chelsea. Ot at least it would necessitate a huge incentive to agree to join Liverpool, when the gulf in class/quality/history between the two clubs is so vast. Chelsea know they are safe enough and can probably offer less than the scousers.
Apparently bid made, it’s the structre that’s being discussed.
I know you’re all jumpy and disappointed but this is how regular transfers are made. Discussions before the bid. It’s not suddenly auction rules
From what I've read Chelsea if they sign Caicedo for £100m+ will have spent upwards of £900m since last summer.
How the feck are they getting around FFP?
Didn't UEFA close the 8 year contract loophole?
How the feck are they getting around FFP?
Didn't UEFA close the 8 year contract loophole?
Was just about to post this. £900m in one year is ridiculous.
About 500 mil of sales in the same period and how FFP actually works is how.
This is not the first time Chelsea have been here (they took multiple players from under our noses back between 2003-06 thanks to Kenyon's insider info & Abrahamovich's money), so I'm not quite sure what's new here to be alarmed about? I'm not sure if they're doing something "illegal" here by overspending (well, maybe breaking FFP for which they'll get a fine). I'd love for history to be reversed, Chelsea to be told to stop and clubs to be told to revert to how they worked 20+ years ago but I know what I want is not going to happen in the world of football. FIFA/UEFA want investment in the game, FA want to make the premier league the most competitive by attracting the best players in the world - there's a little in it for everyone. We can either take a socialist approach and try to fight it (not sure how though?), or we can accept things for what they are and try to work around it. I'd rather we do the latter.
We need to hire the Chelsea accountant.
I liked Spurs during Poch era and still do like them to an extent since then.According to Transfermarkt it's about £300m in sales over the last 3 windows. Now granted I've never found them to be the most accurate but £500m in sales seems high in one year.
The players fee divided by contract length, up to 5 years. It's recalculated if they sign an extension.
There's an article here
https://soccernoise.com/football-ffp-what-is-amortization/
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Chelsea fans pulling figures out of their arses again
Actual sales figure:
22/23: €67.80m
23/24: €253.90m
Total = €321.7m or £277.5m
Expenditure on transfers:
22/23: €611.9m
23/24: €207m (pre-Caicedo/Lavia)
Total = €818.9m or £707m
Also, these figures are just for base fee and don't include addons which would take it north of €900m pre-Caicedo. Stop peddling BS in here, it won't fly.
Liverpool’s midfield looks dire on paper.
Did I say 500 £ or €? I did not.Chelsea fans pulling figures out of their arses again
Actual sales figure:
22/23: €67.80m
23/24: €253.90m
Total = €321.7m or £277.5m
Expenditure on transfers:
22/23: €611.9m
23/24: €207m (pre-Caicedo/Lavia)
Total = €818.9m or £707m
Also, these figures are just for base fee and don't include addons which would take it north of €900m pre-Caicedo. Stop peddling BS in here, it won't fly.
I'm obviously talking in Australian Dollars.
Why would you look at the last two years when FFP looks at the last 3? Which is pretty clearly what @duffer was referring to.Chelsea fans pulling figures out of their arses again
Actual sales figure:
22/23: €67.80m
23/24: €253.90m
Total = €321.7m or £277.5m
Expenditure on transfers:
22/23: €611.9m
23/24: €207m (pre-Caicedo/Lavia)
Total = €818.9m or £707m
Also, these figures are just for base fee and don't include addons which would take it north of €900m pre-Caicedo. Stop peddling BS in here, it won't fly.
Total spent 21-23: €936m
Total sold 21-23: €471m
Sure it's not £500m but it's not a million miles away.
Looks good for a few goals either way.
Fingers crossed it looks as dire on the pitch
You’d think they’ll make a serious push for a couple of players or their season is going to be tanked early.
Reading doesn't seem to be your strong suit either. The post which the user was referring to said €900m spent since last summer aka after Boehly came in.
Gosh, you seem quite mad about this so congratulations for winning the argument?
Chelsea needs Caicedo more than Liverpool, their midfield is overrun by Liverpool. Gallagher is not XI CM.
Is there no one in the whole of the sky sports team or anyone from his family and friends that can tell Spit master his name is not fecking “Siyceedo”!
Caicedo isn't the difference between 12th and top four for this lot.
Chelsea should really buy a few more midfielders.
Thanks bud - I get standard amortisation but for some reason I thought I read on here UEFA doesn’t take the standard rules into account but uses 5 years to avoid discrepancies like 8 year contracts. But maybe I dreamt that
Can I get a 120million?…nod to the team in red, what about 130…can I get a 130?…to the blue team, how about 150?…red, 160?…blue, 170million?…red! Blue for 200! Can I get 225??? YES! 250 million??? Got it! 300?…
I haven't seen that but it's a new rule so it's possible but I can't see why it would be. Amortisation is a standard format. As far as I've seen it applies to the first 5 years of the 8 year Chelsea contract. After that (years 6-8) the player is free of any minus FFP so can be treated like an academy player if sold. Therefore Chelsea get the FFP benefit over are contracted player on a shorter contract whose FFP is reduced but not gone.Thanks bud - I get standard amortisation but for some reason I thought I read on here UEFA doesn’t take the standard rules into account but uses 5 years to avoid discrepancies like 8 year contracts. But maybe I dreamt that
I will glady spend 1/3 of my daily posts to laugh at this
Haha this gave me a proper laugh
nice one!Hello, only me! No not Harry Enfield. 
So the game is done, and the bid was going to be put forward to Brighton by Chelsea. Just how 'close' are we to 'close?
Closer than close? Closer than I could imagine poss?
So the game is done, and the bid was going to be put forward to Brighton by Chelsea. Just how 'close' are we to 'close?
Closer than close? Closer than I could imagine poss?
I think it is clear that people don't actually understand FFP. It is the same reason why people keep saying that Manutd will only have £100m to spend each summer, only to to completely blow that figure out of the water.
What happens if Chelsea fail to make a new bid?
I thought Gallagher did decent against Liverpool. He was everywhere harrassing players and winning some 50-50s. Only thing he wasn't as good as was in possession but I think he wised up to it as the game went on and started just playing it simple so Liverpool couldn't take the ball off him as easily as they did at first.
That being said, Caicedo would definitely improve them. I was quite impressed by how good Chelsea looked tbh. Give Enzo and James someone who is an actual goal threat and maybe Poch can turn things around for them.
In that case @Dumbstar will spam every thread with “I told you so”.
I doubt that the bid won’t happen though, Chelsea will just sell another of their Homegrown talents to balance the FFP books if needed. Boehly is too egotistical to back down now.
Oh man, don't ruin the build up. Let me have that.
Thanks Elon!! I guess I have a limit now and when I put in a tweet it will not imbed. I’m not buying a blue check!
Multiple sources on Twitter saying it is done with medical tomorrow
Multiple sources on Twitter saying it is done with medical tomorrow
You'll catch the usual fish in here with that post. Step forward @cyberman
Updated for you with the reality specs on.
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