I'm astounded Mourinho is still living in the Lowry hotel, that's three months living in a hotel.
I find that really unsual.
I find that really unsual.
Mourinho | 2016/17 Performances
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Monday Night Club is always worth a listen. Mourinho will be the source of some debate. I expect Mark Chapman to raise Rooney's name too - and indeed what the mood amongst us is.
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Stories about players being shocked about this and that have already started.
I fully believe it's made up, media makes up some 'source' than fabricates the whole story. But the fact it has started is worrying. They sense weakness and a bad state of affairs we're in.
There's so little time for him to turn it around. Nobody expects him to make wonders at this stage, just make us play a bit better and start winning again. We'll face Liverpool and Chelsea in no time and in current form it won't be pretty.
I fully believe it's made up, media makes up some 'source' than fabricates the whole story. But the fact it has started is worrying. They sense weakness and a bad state of affairs we're in.
There's so little time for him to turn it around. Nobody expects him to make wonders at this stage, just make us play a bit better and start winning again. We'll face Liverpool and Chelsea in no time and in current form it won't be pretty.
Very true, that's very un-mourinho-esque. He was (in)famous for inventing the utmost ridiculous excuses to draw the attention on him and away from his underperforming players, and before his fall out at Chelsea last season, this method worked every single time for him, the media fell for it.
If he doesn't get us to the top 4, you'd probably have to sack him.
I'd give him this season, because I don't know the alternatives. Unless we have a complete catastrophe of a season.
That's the last thing I want to happen.
I'm hoping he somehow wakes up from this.You'd hope he learnt lessons from his Chelsea failure .We are his last shot at a big club in England.If he fails here so soon,no one else will touch him for a variety of reasons.
Yes of course...but that's towards the end of the season.
Some people in here are behaving as if he should be sacked immediately, after playing only a few games.
He needs to grow a pair.
Tell Rooney that he is from now on a bench player.
Give Zlatan the captaincy and let him roam freely as a false 9.
Play Martial and Mkhi/Rashford on either side of Zlatan.
Play three in midfield.
Find out who out of Blind and Carrick can play as a #6.
That's just the first few steps of many. The sooner the better, Mou.
Tell Rooney that he is from now on a bench player.
Give Zlatan the captaincy and let him roam freely as a false 9.
Play Martial and Mkhi/Rashford on either side of Zlatan.
Play three in midfield.
Find out who out of Blind and Carrick can play as a #6.
That's just the first few steps of many. The sooner the better, Mou.
It's very Al Capone.
Either that or he knows this can't last long, so why bother moving into a house.
I'm all for giving him room to manoeuvre, but he has got to stop throwing his players in front of the bus.
Say what you want about LvG, but he always took the end of the stick and would never discuss player issues.
Say what you want about LvG, but he always took the end of the stick and would never discuss player issues.
If he keeps this crap up, he wont last past Christmas.
United's is obviously too low but interesting to see how the teams at the top fare when we're coming to the end of the season.
Spurs and Liverpool's performances fell off a cliff at the business end of last season costing them trophies and league position, whilst Pep's sides are famed for losing intensity after Christmas which has led to quite a few fairly meek CL exits.
It's a long old season and often it's about peaking at the right time. Something Fergie was the master at.
It might actually be the players though.
Three managers now, if you are giving players instructions every time you play a team and certain individuals don't listen what do you do? yes he could drop them.
To be honest though at this stage it may be certain individuals who aren't helping, just hope the performances improve.
Maybe it lacks class, but it doesn't mean its not the players.
Can you provide links to these stories mate? Many thanks if you can
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-shaw-groin-injury-scan-watford-a7316621.html
This is just one. I saw 2 or 3 others which are basically the same, they're copying from each other. There's no source or anything just some reports that players are 'shocked' with Shaw treatment.
Refresh my memory... Has he always criticized his players in interviews and this "yeah ok let's say it's my fault because I am the manager (pfffft schjeah rite)" air about him after bad games or is this something that started during his fiasco year at Chelsea? He's barely had a handful games under his belt at United and he is already doing this to our players. This can't be the correct attitude if he wants to survive and manage us long term.
Are you sure? He blamed the players a lot.
Went into tiny detail too. That and that player has done that or that player missed a big chance. And so on.
Much appreciated.
Tbf that wasn't too bad, and he didn't throw them under the bus and blamed them actively. He just said they're teaching problems and we'll get over them in due course.
If our oversensitive bunch of pussies can't handle that then they don't deserve to wear the shirt.
Well, he could have leave out our left back stuff.
All he needed to say is there are some issues we need to sort and we will get much better in a few weeks.
Done.
I'm with you on that. It was nothing special. He just pointed to the mistakes. And if they're sensitive to every manager's word then we have another problem and that is oversensitive players.
Of course he should do less talk and more walk but I don't have a particular problem with those comments.
Same with ref. If the ref makes a bad decision which is against you why shouldn't he mention it. If its the only thing he mentions that's a problem but he did say we weren't good and made mistakes.
Van Gaal was just as bad.But we expected that from him.
There will probably be exceptions. But from what I remember he blamed the refs, opposition and everyone, but not his players.
But then he rarely ever lost a game anyway back then. Since his return to Chelsea when the losses increased he started throwing everyone under the bus.
It's shocking that Mourinho finds it sensible to pick Shaw apart whilst remaining silent on absolute shockers from Rooney, same with the Schweinsteiger treatment he has gone for the path of least resistance. Utter cowardice.
I really think carrick and TFM should play in the 2 behind pogba. He is way more effective up that end of the pitch. Rooney can stay on the bench.
Saying that, against watford most of our attacking players were too static. I didnt see much off the ball movement. I was literally screaming at the tele for them to move.
Since blind hasnt played, things havent been great. Maybe play blind with TFM in the 2.
Im still in shock over our last 3 games.
Saying that, against watford most of our attacking players were too static. I didnt see much off the ball movement. I was literally screaming at the tele for them to move.
Since blind hasnt played, things havent been great. Maybe play blind with TFM in the 2.
Im still in shock over our last 3 games.
I think Shaw has played very well so far but i didn't really see Jose's words as a criticism. Hee said he made an error but that basically it's something that won't happen when they've had more time on the training ground.
I know Mourinho singled out Shaw in the last game against Watfrord unfairly. He might have made a small defensive mistake but the team as a whole was bad that day.
I am really against singling out players from a team for a bad performance unless they get a red card intentionally.
On a side note I also believe players now a days cant take criticism and usually get upset and defensive. Take it on the chin learn from it and perform on the next match rather than getting upset and emotional.
I am really against singling out players from a team for a bad performance unless they get a red card intentionally.
On a side note I also believe players now a days cant take criticism and usually get upset and defensive. Take it on the chin learn from it and perform on the next match rather than getting upset and emotional.
Mourinho is somehow making the same mistakes LvG did and it is baffling given his encouraging comments about wanting specialist players and how Rooney couldn't play as a midfielder. Defeats have gradually sent him into the same experimenting spree Van Gaal was in during all his tenure.
Both the managers bought players and then tried to make them play a certain way. I don't think you should do that when you come to a struggling team unless and until the team is already used to playing somewhat the same way. Liverpool look good under Klopp because they played pretty much the same high-pressure game under Rodgers too and City look good under Pep because again, they always were a side which played with slick passes and one-twos. These managers have come in and either by intent or by accident has brought similar kind of playing styles, hence improving on an already in-place model.
At United, LvG tried to change everything around 180 degrees with his possession based football but never bought players who were suited to that kind of play. In fact, spine of his team in his final game (FA cup final) was Rooney, Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Valencia, Fellaini, Smalling and none of those players were experienced in possession based football or how it works in wearing opponents down. Now we have Mourinho and our gameplan is to sit back and absorb pressure. Again none of the players he bought or had already available are used to playing that way. It is not as demanding as what LvG wanted so Mourinho might just get this team on track eventually after a few more games but this is not going to be an easy ride. I wished Mourinho had tried playing to the strengths of the good signings he has made. Why is Pogba supposed to sit back and dictate when he is better in a free role? why is Mkhi, the leading assist provider in Bundesliga not in the number 10 role we know he can make his own and is spending so much time having to track back and defend wide players? Why are we sitting back against teams who cannot string two passes together and might put the ball in their own net if we put a bit of pressure on them??
In the last game when we were losing, we had Mata on as right midfielder, Fellaini in midfield, Ashley Young at right back, Rooney in midfield, Rashford out wide on left. I do not see many specialist on there and no wonder I keep feeling Van Gaal hangover every time I watch a United game. I am hoping things will start getting better from Northampton game or else I am going on a football hiatus. It is fecking frustrating!!
Both the managers bought players and then tried to make them play a certain way. I don't think you should do that when you come to a struggling team unless and until the team is already used to playing somewhat the same way. Liverpool look good under Klopp because they played pretty much the same high-pressure game under Rodgers too and City look good under Pep because again, they always were a side which played with slick passes and one-twos. These managers have come in and either by intent or by accident has brought similar kind of playing styles, hence improving on an already in-place model.
At United, LvG tried to change everything around 180 degrees with his possession based football but never bought players who were suited to that kind of play. In fact, spine of his team in his final game (FA cup final) was Rooney, Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Valencia, Fellaini, Smalling and none of those players were experienced in possession based football or how it works in wearing opponents down. Now we have Mourinho and our gameplan is to sit back and absorb pressure. Again none of the players he bought or had already available are used to playing that way. It is not as demanding as what LvG wanted so Mourinho might just get this team on track eventually after a few more games but this is not going to be an easy ride. I wished Mourinho had tried playing to the strengths of the good signings he has made. Why is Pogba supposed to sit back and dictate when he is better in a free role? why is Mkhi, the leading assist provider in Bundesliga not in the number 10 role we know he can make his own and is spending so much time having to track back and defend wide players? Why are we sitting back against teams who cannot string two passes together and might put the ball in their own net if we put a bit of pressure on them??
In the last game when we were losing, we had Mata on as right midfielder, Fellaini in midfield, Ashley Young at right back, Rooney in midfield, Rashford out wide on left. I do not see many specialist on there and no wonder I keep feeling Van Gaal hangover every time I watch a United game. I am hoping things will start getting better from Northampton game or else I am going on a football hiatus. It is fecking frustrating!!
I hope the board tells Mourinho that he won't be sacked no matter what happens this season.
We have to give him another transfer window to get rid of the dross stinking up the place and replace it with real quality.
Bailly, Pogba, Mhkitaryan and Zlatan was a good start, but we need more.
We have to give him another transfer window to get rid of the dross stinking up the place and replace it with real quality.
Bailly, Pogba, Mhkitaryan and Zlatan was a good start, but we need more.
Hes actually set up the midfield well tonight.
Then the defense goes out and lets him down.
Then the defense goes out and lets him down.
Legend.
Rooney dropped wow
He is much more attacking than I thought
I expected 2 holding midfielders every game but he isn't even playing 1!
I expected 2 holding midfielders every game but he isn't even playing 1!
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Rooney fecking dropped. Hope United win today without Rooney getting a chance to step in to the game.
Jenas making suggestion on the BBC football has left Mourinho behind in favour of Guardiola and Klopp as it left Wenger behind.
Let's not forget pundits were making the same proclamations about Ferguson when Wenger showed up on the scene.
Let's hope Mourinho shares that particular quality with Ferguson and sticks it up 'em.
Let's not forget pundits were making the same proclamations about Ferguson when Wenger showed up on the scene.
Let's hope Mourinho shares that particular quality with Ferguson and sticks it up 'em.
Watershed moment
Will be interesting to see what he does if United are still unable to function without Rooney.
Not that I am shocked or disappointed with the Rooney decision, it would actually be interesting if we can't play well, especially as most believe this is what our ideal lineup should look like(maybe Shaw and Mkhi in for Blind/Smalling and Lingard)
Good to see him keep TFM in the matchday squad after probably his poorest game in the first team.
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