I think it'll be an improvement. Yes it'll still be a decision based on milli-meters but if no part of you is in line you can't argue its being pedantic like a toe or a finger. Regarding lower level I don't think offside calls are that correct at at those levels anyways. There's always a significant margin of error there.Really naive idea. Same debates will arise but about players a couple of feet closer to goal. And more importantly it’ll be harder for assistant referees to judge. VAR can pick up the slack at the elite level, but for the rest of the game that comprises 99.9% of the football played on any given weekend, it’ll be harder for the lino to make the call.
Would have expected better from Wenger to be honest.
It does. The offside law was intended to prevent goal hanging. Being offside because the heel of thr player who crossed the ball was a millimetre offside in the build up, was never the intention of the law.I don't think it makes sense.
"That will sort it out and you will no longer have decisions about millimetres and a fraction of the attacker being in front of the defensive line."It does. The offside law was intended to prevent goal hanging. Being offside because the heel of thr player who crossed the ball was a millimetre offside in the build up, was never the intention of the law.
I say again, even close decisions will at least look offside to the naked eye
Spot on post is this.Just making it even more complicated. Whats so hard to understand. Your either offside or not. Doesn't matter if its by a toenail. It's clear and obvious. Oh but its so unfair. Well its not. What we gonna do give a goal when the ball hasnt crossed over all the line but its mostly there. Oh poor attacker. He lost his goalsie by a few millimeters. Yeah. Tough sht. .
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Unless the entire concept of a millimetre is scrapped, they’re never going to remove the issue of millimetres in the decisions, they just change the point at which it’s measured. You’re still going to have decisions made that will be criticised because the margin was millimetres."That will sort it out and you will no longer have decisions about millimetres and a fraction of the attacker being in front of the defensive line."
Rule change won't eliminate millimeters offside.
I just don't see any good from this change except giving more advantage to attacker.Unless the entire concept of a millimetre is scrapped, they’re never going to remove the issue of millimetres in the decisions, they just change the point at which it’s measured. You’re still going to have decisions made that will be criticised because the margin was millimetres.
It’s a daft as that Tory education minister plank who said that he wants every student in the nation to achieve above the national average in their maths GCSEs.
Yeah was thinking it would make their job extremely difficult in the first place before VAR get involved. Think it will lead to a lot of attackers trying to steal a march and leaving trailing legs level with defenders, not sure what to make of that.Really naive idea. Same debates will arise but about players a couple of feet closer to goal. And more importantly it’ll be harder for assistant referees to judge. VAR can pick up the slack at the elite level, but for the rest of the game that comprises 99.9% of the football played on any given weekend, it’ll be harder for the lino to make the call.
Would have expected better from Wenger to be honest.
Exactly that, the only difference. Think they reckoned 20 goals have been denied in the Premier league this season for marginal offside calls. With this rule those goals would have stoodUnless the entire concept of a millimetre is scrapped, they’re never going to remove the issue of millimetres in the decisions, they just change the point at which it’s measured. You’re still going to have decisions made that will be criticised because the margin was millimetres.
It’s a daft as that Tory education minister plank who said that he wants every student in the nation to achieve above the national average in their maths GCSEs.
It’ll be the same arguments in reverse. We will still be debating about toes because clever strikers will leave trailing legs to maximise their advantage. It’s a rule change designed because of VAR as opposed to what the rule was designed for in the first place. Tackling a symptom and not a cause for something that only affects less than 1% of the sport.I think it'll be an improvement. Yes it'll still be a decision based on milli-meters but if no part of you is in line you can't argue its being pedantic like a toe or a finger. Regarding lower level I don't think offside calls are that correct at at those levels anyways. There's always a significant margin of error there.
This is the only rule change that makes sense. And it makes it consistent with the idea of the ball crossing the goal line as well. If all of the ball has to cross all of the line to be a goal why shouldn't all of the player be offside for it to be offside?
We love defenders dearly and recognise their need for opportunities to develop and be prosperous at work. Hence we decided we want to provide them with greater challenges.Why do we suddenly hate defenders?
Agreed. In cricket and rugby, which have had video assistance for a while, there are still controversies and debates to be had regarding decisions. We're talking about live action filmed by fallible digital tech, the images from which are interpreted against a rulebook by human beings. VAR is still too blunt an instrument to get every decision right, so aim lower in fixing the obvious howlers the on-field officials make (as we were promised before we started measuring toenails) and leave the marginal calls pissing off one half of the fans and delighting the rest. As for Wenger he's not solved anything, just moved the point of contention a yard or so closer to the net.Rubbish idea - and goes far to far the other way and puts too much advantage with the attacker.
The offisde rule is fine, its the way VAR is trying to implement it thats crap.
All that has to be done is as soon as that line is put by the defender, if you can't tell within 5 seconds whether it's offside or not, then it's not offside. None of this dotted lines coming down from arm pits bollocks. The Giroud one was a perfect example, as soon as the line was put Maguire's foot you could easily tell it was offside. That should be the barometer we're dealing with
And any goal that looks tight, the linesman should put his flag up after the ball is in the net, so the fans in the stadium know it might be ruled out.
It changes the dynamic of who is pushing the line this trailing leg thing, which is more a half body overlap isn't it?It’ll be the same arguments in reverse. We will still be debating about toes because clever strikers will leave trailing legs to maximise their advantage. It’s a rule change designed because of VAR as opposed to what the rule was designed for in the first place. Tackling a symptom and not a cause for something that only affects less than 1% of the sport.
In theory there will be far fewer such decisions though. I don’t know how successful this would be, but I’m curious to see it in action. I think it would make attacking crazy, you’d have forwards pushing for huge advantages. Don’t know if it’ll work but it could be wild."That will sort it out and you will no longer have decisions about millimetres and a fraction of the attacker being in front of the defensive line."
Rule change won't eliminate millimeters offside.
Spot on.Just making it even more complicated. Whats so hard to understand. Your either offside or not. Doesn't matter if its by a toenail. It's clear and obvious. Oh but its so unfair. Well its not. What we gonna do give a goal when the ball hasnt crossed over all the line but its mostly there. Oh poor attacker. He lost his goalsie by a few millimeters. Yeah. Tough sht. .