New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built - design visualisation released

Thoughts on the design?


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Probably the most important thing to watch if you want to understand the direction they are going. This is by no means the final design. It’s possible they could push to be the biggest stadium in Europe. Also hadn’t quite clocked from the renders that the idea is for the Stratford end to be a singular Kop like stand.
 
People keep saying this - if you can't deal with a minor jibe from someone who isn't a Utd fan the internet must be a rough place for you.

Not at all. Just find it a bit tedious in journalism. I'd expect some neutrality and that sort of sets it up a certain way don't you think?
 
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has anyone with some authority said what the new stadium will be called?
 
"Extra away fans", what? :lol:

Does bigger capacity mean more away fans?
Probably the most important thing to watch if you want to understand the direction they are going. This is by no means the final design. It’s possible they could push to be the biggest stadium in Europe. Also hadn’t quite clocked from the renders that the idea is for the Stratford end to be a singular Kop like stand.

I think it's very much just a general vision to gauge interest from various parties like government, private investors, developers, fans, the community etc...

None of the details are really decided on.
 
This is probably the most ridiculous part of the entire thing. It's so short-sighted. Manchester's food and drink offer has exploded in recent years, and while not fully recovered from the pandemic, more places opening doesn't mean others have to close down. Manchester is expanding, increasing the capacity and draw of Old Trafford is brilliant for the city.

Imagine if London or other major cities had should little ambition.
Spot on. It’s proper scarcity mindset.
 
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has anyone with some authority said what the new stadium will be called?
Lots of sources reported that Foster and Partners (the architects) refer to it as New Trafford in their press brief.

It'll probably be the 'Stake.com Stadium' come the time though.
 
Again, wrong end of the stick entirely. Not the argument being made at all.
Is this a joke? I never said it was the argument, I said it was about house prices, you mentioned a lack of infrastructure. You literally wrote...
And the cost to other areas of the city is in terms of stretched infrastructure on public transport, roads, hospitals and schools, not necessarily purely financial costs.
 
Is this a joke? I never said it was the argument, I said it was about house prices, you mentioned a lack of infrastructure. You literally wrote...
Sorry, where did I say there were areas of Manchester with empty schools and GPs? I'll also settle for the bit where the journo says that.
 
Does bigger capacity mean more away fans?
Not really, no. As I said before, we already offer the expected amounts in the league and FA Cup so they wouldn't increase with a larger stadium. In Europe technically yes we would be expected to offer 5k rather than 3.5k-4k but the vast majority of teams don't take up such an amount - where there is demand the club is known to allow higher amounts on occasions anyway, such as Bodo who were given 6k which is above what would be expected in a 100k stadium.
 
The trumpification of the world is getting worse. Journalist produces article (and a very good journalist at that) that doesn't chime with some people, and it's a left wing plot and the journo is a cnut. Honestly. It's always the anti-woke mob that are the first to get triggered. Both Liew and Wilsons articles raise some big red flags, it's a shame the top red types want to look the other way.
 
The trumpification of the world is getting worse. Journalist produces article (and a very good journalist at that) that doesn't chime with some people, and it's a left wing plot and the journo is a cnut. Honestly. It's always the anti-woke mob that are the first to get triggered. Both Liew and Wilsons articles raise some big red flags, it's a shame the top red types want to look the other way.
I have absolutely no idea what this means, if anyone can translate I'll give it a go.
 
The trumpification of the world is getting worse. Journalist produces article (and a very good journalist at that) that doesn't chime with some people, and it's a left wing plot and the journo is a cnut. Honestly. It's always the anti-woke mob that are the first to get triggered. Both Liew and Wilsons articles raise some big red flags, it's a shame the top red types want to look the other way.
Liew’s article makes some great points, but it’s written in such a derisory manner that’s emblematic of the problem you’re alluding to. It’s part inquisitive and part sensationalist.
 
Not really, as usual with Liew, he makes clever sounding arguments that end up being very thin. He complains about creating insecure jobs or buy-to-let landlords buying up properties, but doesn't explain why having no jobs or no houses would be better.

Most bizarre is the claim that "Any uplift to local property prices comes at a cost to other areas of the city." This is a completely wild argument to read in the The Guardian. Rampant property prices due to lack of housing is one of the worst economic ills in the country. Yes, building more houses will slow or even lower the valuation of properties elsewhere in the city, and yes, this is absolutely a good thing. But in his attempt to make rattle out his arguments, he's put his critical faculties on hold, and ended up making a nimby argument that would be better served in the Telegraph.

This is normal Liew, he doesn't just do it about United to be fair, he's just a try hard.
Sure, there are some bad arguments in there too, and Liew does tend to get carried away by his own narrative. But I think he's right to question the sales pitch figures concerning the economic benefits to the community and country at large.
 
What are the chances this takes 10-12 years to build instead of the projected 5 years?

Government bureaucracy and construction delays can always delay massive projects like this. But the one thing working for it is that Ratcliffe is very motivated to see it finished as quickly as possible (for obvious reasons).
 
What are the chances this takes 10-12 years to build instead of the projected 5 years?
Once they get the go ahead, it'll motor along. 1 to 2 years to remove the freightline bit, then 3-4 years to build the stadium. The bits around it won't be done until well after once OT is knocked down and will take a few years.
 
What are the chances this takes 10-12 years to build instead of the projected 5 years?
My working assumption for infrastructure projects in general is either '2x time, 3x cost' or '3x time, 2x cost' from the original project pitch. I assume this project will be no different.
An inflated sponsorship deal from a company linked to our owner? Where have I heard that one before?
They're not even trying to hide it anymore, are they?
 
I like the name New Trafford, if that is serious. Would people be happy with us selling some of our naming rights? Like "Costco New Trafford"?
 
I like the name New Trafford, if that is serious. Would people be happy with us selling some of our naming rights? Like "Costco New Trafford"?

I could live with it as long as it was Costco Old Trafford and not Costco Stadium.

Everyone will just call the Spotify Nou Camp the Nou Camp for example. And nobody ever called St James park by its sports direct name (I can't even remember what it was).
 
Do you think “The Malcolm Glazer Fountain of Plenty Memorial stadium” would go down well with the fans?

Hat, coat………, whooooosh!


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I could live with it as long as it was Costco Old Trafford and not Costco Stadium.

Everyone will just call the Spotify Nou Camp the Nou Camp for example. And nobody ever called St James park by its sports direct name (I can't even remember what it was).
I think it will have naming rights but it was always be known as Old Trafford
 
Just call it the Theatre of Dreams and be done with it. We can have lots of beds set up on the concourse for fans to have a nap
 
As long as there are no tacky, dated, cringe worthy slogans plastered around the place.

I’d like to see the players tunnel sloping downwards towards the pitch, complete with 10ft sheets of flames lining the opposition’s walk out on to the pitch.
Instilling fear and huge sense of foreboding into them as they enter the cauldron……….ready to face Onana in goal.


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As long as there are no tacky, dated, cringe worthy slogans plastered around the place.

I’d like to see the players tunnel sloping downwards towards the pitch, complete with 10ft sheets of flames lining the opposition’s walk out on to the pitch.
Instilling fear and huge sense of foreboding into them as they enter the cauldron……….ready to face Onana in goal.


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What’s the logic of a downward slope? I think instinctively you’re right, as someone walking it would feel compelled by gravity maybe, like being pushed somewhere against their will. Don’t know if I’m over thinking.