Bro them 2 toothpicks are parts of the trident on the badge. Look at the picture of the walk up to stadium and you will see the full trident. At first, I was unsure, but then it grew on me.
New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built - design visualisation released
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Nah, I think we should take it up to a higher level of shithousery than everyone else. I think we should be as petty as possible. Cold floors in the away dressing room, dim lighting, cramped, hard plastic seating, only one double socket outlet, make it like a curved tunnel, a drinks fridge that only stocks Irn-Bru, Video screens that can't be turned off playing loops of James Corden clips, pump in lavender aromatherapy Oil through the AC system to make them all sleepy. Plus any other shithousery we can think of.
On second thoughts we shouldn't do the James Corden screens, no one deserves to see that shit. But everything else I'm all for it.
I voted bit of both, simply because I’m not sold on the look externally with the tent and the trident. Maybe it’ll look better in real life and I’m sure it will be impressive because of the scale. What I think will happen though is that the design will change and get scaled back once things are costed properly, and it might look somewhat different.
But the stadium itself and the plaza do look really good. It’s not for the traditionalists but it will put us right at the forefront in terms of facilities and the stadium itself will probably bring a boat load of money in if it’s multi use.
One of my favourite parts, and I hope this survives any design revisions, it’s all the green areas. This will set it apart as a development. Go anywhere where there’s a new stadium and hotels/offices/stores have sprung up all around it, they’re just so bland as an overall development. Just concrete and steel. The immediate area around the stadium now is as bad as it gets but this will really improve things.
But the stadium itself and the plaza do look really good. It’s not for the traditionalists but it will put us right at the forefront in terms of facilities and the stadium itself will probably bring a boat load of money in if it’s multi use.
One of my favourite parts, and I hope this survives any design revisions, it’s all the green areas. This will set it apart as a development. Go anywhere where there’s a new stadium and hotels/offices/stores have sprung up all around it, they’re just so bland as an overall development. Just concrete and steel. The immediate area around the stadium now is as bad as it gets but this will really improve things.
No shit.. adding something to the stadium will come at a cost... everything in development comes at a significant cost.
Manutd don't have TV's to show replays... to add that in comes at a significant cost too.
Your point is SoFi dont need masts when its a different design... its not rocket science that if something has a different design, the structure will be different.
Borrowing the Etihad, probably.
The new stadium will be built beside OT. Once it's completed we move and then demolish OT seems to be the plan.
But this project is coming with the promise of thousands of new homes. Who's benefiting from those? How many will be genuinely affordable? How many families who've lived there for generations will essentially be turfed out because they can't afford the area anymore? How many of the current, small local businesses will lose out when this idea becomes reality. If regeneration is gonna be the secondary focus of this project, it's clearly beyond just a new football stadium.
As a society, we should be questioning this shit "bud".
There's been fat too many of these types of things in recent years. Families who've lived in areas for years forced to move out of their communities.
I'm all for progress but progress needs to include the current people and the community within it. Whether that be football, hospitality or housing areas.
This is a very good way of putting it.
Although, within that metaphor it's also true to say that, in a storm, anchors are not always bad things. Sometimes it pays to stay connected to your history. I think a new stadium is probably the right way to go, so I'm not disagreeing with you as such, it's just something to be mindful of. Quite a few other clubs (cough, City, cough) would do anything to have your history. It's one of the few things money can't buy.
Nobody actually lives on the land required to regenerate though?
My mistake having seen the plan above if so but those that do live nearby will probably see a hefty rent increase as the wider area becomes "trendy".
The wider point is still true though. How affordable will these thousands of houses be? This is quite important when there's a housing crisis in Greater Manchester.
Give the away fans the same facilities as the rest of us. Just decorate the walls between their gates and their seats with floor to ceiling posters of all our trophies, great players, great moments.
That’s life though isn’t it?
We’d never do anything if the argument was not to build new things because they might raise the profile of the area they’re in.
That’s life though isn’t it?
We’d never do anything if the argument was not to build new things because they might raise the profile of the area they’re in.
Wasn’t it briefed that maintaining OT and building a new stadium at the same time is too expensive, hence they can only choose one?
I don't think they will build houses, it'll all be mixed use apartment blocks with bars, restaurants, gyms, shops, etc.
However, where are all these people going to park their cars, or school their kids, or go to the doctors, or hospital? That all needs to be factored into this masterplan, it's all well and good putting 4,000 people into the area, but you have to actually provide them facilities to use.
It's obvious people are going to buy these apartments and AirBnB them on a match day for pure £.
But this isn't a United thing, so as long as we get the stadium right, then leave the private developers to it.
No it was briefed that downsizing OT to accommodate women’s and youth teams in a smaller capacity ground was deemed too expensive.
If the new stadium goes ahead, it will be built on land adjacent to Old Trafford. Once the new stadium is complete, Old Trafford will be demolished. United will continue to play at OT until the new stadium is ready.
Yes too expensive long term but it's the only option while construction takes place. There's nowhere within 100 miles that United could realistically use as a temporary ground.
In the video they released they show the new stadium being built beside OT.
There will be a requirement to build 'affordable' homes alongside less affordable homes. If you want to look at where that never really happens, cast your eye on the city centre. Some homes are better than no homes, but either way, the regulations should be better enforced by councils, and I'd encourage you to write to Trafford Council if you feel passionate about it.
The umbrella is transparent - either glass or a polymer. You can bet they will light it up like the Wembley arch and colour change will be possible - especially the spires.
Was thinking could they not just have some sort of overhang at the front of the stadium instead of a 'netting' over the whole thing? I don't think there's a need to protect people that much from rain. Would look less like the stadium has been vacuum packed that way.
No body shaming
You’ve never been to Manchester, have you?!
You’ve never been to Manchester, have you?!
I have!
I just meant give them some cover from rain but it doesn't need to envelope the whole stadium.
What about the homeless bums mooching around the rail yard? Won’t somebody think about the bums!!!
Oh yeah, you can really see the trident now you’ve superimposed a trident on the picture
I voted "a bit of both" as I am not a fan of the glass net (even though it serves a purpose) at first, but don't mind it that much anymore.
I like the whole project to improve the surrounding area and the canal.
I like to walk to the stadium from the center when I am there (which unfortunately is not that often) but always thought there is a lot of potential for improvement, especially the canal.
I like the whole project to improve the surrounding area and the canal.
I like to walk to the stadium from the center when I am there (which unfortunately is not that often) but always thought there is a lot of potential for improvement, especially the canal.
Hope we keep the away fans in the corner off camera.
Only joking.I have!
I just meant give them some cover from rain but it doesn't need to envelope the whole stadium.
https://www.manutd.com/en/imagegall...ld-trafford-model-images-at-event-on-11-march
If you look at the models on the club website, you can see the umbrella is transparent and the stadium really shines through. I don’t think the towers and canopy will be as stark and imposing as they appear on the official images.
Norman Foster is a big fan of tents. He has been developing tent structure building technogoly for decades. Here is the biggest tent building in the world, Khan Shatyr (King's Tent) Mall in our capital Astana.
Designed by Foster+Partners. Source: Foster + Partners website
Designed by Foster+Partners. Source: Foster + Partners website
I don't know. They don't remind me of a trident when seeing them on pictures, other than two awkward toothpick-shaped structure sticking out at the front.
Probably if they put them on each side of the stadium but didn't cover the front view, it may look better.
But most likely when it's done, I'd have more positive thought and be happy with the design. Just like I questioned the player when we're linked, but was happy when Mount was signed.
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I like the idea, and will be very happy and a little bit proud if Khan Shatyr will concede its title to New Old Trafford.
That's a reference to turning OT into a 20/30 thousand seater to accommodate the women's team and the youth teams. United think it's not viable. Plus that area may be needed for something else and be part of the deal that gives us the extra bits of land that we need.
Omar Berrada talked about a mini stadium like City's as well - but City's is a smaller stadium than the one we currently use at LSV
OB: "It's not off the table. It's feasible but we have to find the best ways to finance a new stadium and, to Collette's point, we're thinking about this in the context of how can it benefit the wider regeneration project. If we feel the space where Old Trafford currently is can be used in a different way whilst preserving the history of Old Trafford then we'll explore it."
My personal hope would that the old pitch area becomes part of one of those green spaces we see in the plans - maybe even with a community football pitch and part of the current South Stand. Got to have a dream.
Berrada says United want the women's team to be able to use the new stadium routinely at some point and that they're also looking at how to make it feel right (and be economically viable) with smaller crowds negating the importance of a 20/30k stadium while the support is growing.
Looks pretty coolNorman Foster is a big fan of tents. He has been developing tent structure building technogoly for decades. Here is the biggest tent building in the world, Khan Shatyr (King's Tent) Mall in our capital Astana.
Designed by Foster+Partners. Source: Foster + Partners website
Nice, let's bring up race because that's really helpful and generalising is a really intelligent touch.
You really do come across as very intelligent and composed here.
Norman Foster is a big fan of tents. He has been developing tent structure building technogoly for decades. Here is the biggest tent building in the world, Khan Shatyr (King's Tent) Mall in our capital Astana.
Designed by Foster+Partners. Source: Foster + Partners website
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They won't be. They'll be flats bought by overseas investors and rented out on AirBnB. No regular local person is going to be able to live there affordably even if they wanted to.
I didn't really associate Man Utd with the trident though . So it feels weird to theme a stadium around it. It doesn't symbolise the club or city really.
I don't call them the red devils either though.
I think they should've latched onto something else really and themed the stadium around that.
Like "Theatre of Dreams" maybe.
Or "Reinvention" maybe as a theme of the city and club.
How accurate is this proposal by the way? Or is it still just concepts? Its really interesting to see the layout relative to the current roads. If some of those blocks around the stadium are housing then it'll really tie the room area together. The railway road end of Gorse Hill has always felt cut off from the rest of it, if they build houses in that block of land around the stadium then it might finally feel linked up.
Has there been any explanation as to what the UFO looking thing halfway up the western point of the 'trident' is?