Toon fans will just accuse everyone of being jealous like City fans did when their owners were criticised. They're about to get insufferable real quick.
Newcastle United now owned by the PIF | PL receives "legally binding assurances that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will not control NUFC" ;)
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I am pleased for the Newcastle fans who have had nothing but pain under this Ashley regime, you also get the impression that those die hard fans of theirs like the guy from the Kick Off youtube channel are fully aware of the sportswashing involved though
“Nothing but pain”
Spot on
I mean, if you really want to, Shirley.
One can certainly understand the viewpoint of someone such as yourself; but perhaps there’s a gap between Oh, let’s just roll over and die and here’s where we draw the line.
Well, the first name I heard them linked with was Martial - if that's where they are aiming, we needn't worry for a while!
There are much easier ways to launder their reputation. That has always been a silly argument. For every convert to the House of Saud's ways there'll be 10 fans suddenly turned foreign policy critic of the regime. If bad publicity is bad, they were better off avoiding the spotlight and going about business as usual with the UK government (who's citizens en masse didn't give a feck about such relations, conveniently until they bought a football club)
drawing the line. when the entire structure is pretty much rotten.
I'm not sure they can, I worked there when Shepherd was in charge and I'm sure there is some ancient statute that prevents it being purchased.
I think Ashley bought some land around SJP not sure if that would have been included in the deals.
Not sure they can extend the ground any more as the buildings at the back of the Leazes are all listed and the Gallowgate backs onto the metro station. I could see them building a new stadium on the edge of town
Nothing to do with how rich or where they are from, more to do with murder, tortue and human rights
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Did anyone watch football focus earlier and see a Newcastle fan commenting that they are so happy as the previous owner was a tyrant, oh the irony.
Martial would be a great buy for them, just the kind of player you need to show a bit of spirit and fight in a relegation battle.
On a personal level, I agree with you and perhaps even go much further; professional sports are a vestigial remnant of urges that have no place in a society that purports to base its justification on reason.
That being said, different people "draw their lines" at different nodes. You've expressed that, for yourself, that "line" is ideally much more strict, and I'm all for listening to that too if you (or anyone) could come up with a structured proposal for their exclusion criteria, whatever that may be.
Plenty of people have already expressed their disgust on here historically when rumours of buying MUFC were around. This is not something new that many are suddenly disgusted with because they wished it was their team instead of Newcastle.
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Can we keep the discussion to Newcastle's takeover and not people's appearances please.
Such as?
Off course the UK government is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent lives not for long time ago. ِAre we going to take this thread to politics? better to transfer the thread in this case to the (events forum).
Like Abu Ghraib or say Guantanamo? or many of the their human rights outrages carried out by britain and its allies over the last decade?
Im no fan of MBS or his regime, but find the moralising about what happens under his watch a bit rich when its coming from britain, which created the Kingdom for its own ends and has supported it ever since.
All billionaires by virtue of being ruthless ultra capitalists or despotic leaders are scumbags. Most premier league clubs are now owned or indirectly supported by a billionaire.
im too thick to understand any of that.
so the other 19 clubs are angry because Newcastle owners now have a lot more wealth than them. So at what wealth value would they have been ok with it? It another owner comes in and buys West Ham with a net worth of £500 billion, does everyone become ok with Newcastle and now get angry with West Ham?
My point is it’s too late to be angry now. The football system is already broken the moment Abramovich bought Chelsea and the whole sugar daddy approach started. Now it’s just become a big bucks man’s casino.
On a positive note to man utd fans- we have some promising youngsters in our reserves that are looking for a regular first team football.. we might loan them to you (without option to buy)
Here we go again. We’re not allowed to criticise a regime that chops up journalists inside foreign embassies buying a football club because Britain did XYZ.
not sure what evidence you have for that - he's doesn't appear to have much interest when he plays for us
Should be asking for another seat in the Champions League. Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Leicester are all better than their counterparts in any league, with Newcastle soon to be joining them.
Wasn't the glittering Inter Cities Fairs Johnson's Paint Watney Cup their last impressive trophy capture back in 1769?
Anyone who voted Labour should also be included, not only Tory governments have cosied up to the Saudis.
No, I disagree. Look at the boost to the reputation and status of the other gulf states since they bought football clubs. These projects are a very effective way of raising their profile and winning ‘fans’ all over the world.
Indeed since this was announced I've seen many Newcastle fans on social media treat any criticism of the Saudi regime, their humans rights record etc as almost an attack on NUFC and rushing to the rescue with the usual whataboutisms like good little sportwashers.
I am not speaking on behalf of Britain, I am speaking on behalf of me
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Which years though?
I assume you actually know and are not just spouting ignorant bollocks.
They always were to be fair. I think of them as a big underachiever considering the club's size but their fans are a bit annoying. Fergie got irritated by them at times and Keano said "I always thought them an arrogant lot for a club that's never won feck all"
You’re even seeing the Saudi flag on a load of profiles on Twitter. Can you imagine that happening in any other scenario?!
The saudis have been investing in various businesses all over the world for decades now. Why would a football club be any different from a plastics factory? They saw a good investment opportunity and they went for it I don’t like it because it potentially pushes us further away from the top but I didn’t have a problem with the saudis investing in the economy before this and I don’t see why I would suddenly develop one now.
Not to mention the added kicker of an easy way into the local property market.
Good post.
Ashley’s a twat and a terrible person but the idea that Newcastle’s time under him (spent mainly in mid-table security) was an unendurable burden is ridiculous.FFS, “nothing but pain”. Get a grip
Oh you mean when the UK started a decade long war based on lies that resulted in the deaths of thousands of people innocent people? No biggie. Or when you sold weapons to this same government knowing they're used to kill people in Yemen?
And if you don't think UK people are brainwashed by the government, then why haven't those same people who caused that war been imprisoned, knowing they had no concrete evidence?
UK and US would be the last folks I'd listen to for morality signaling.
Go and talk to a woman living in Saudi Arabia and a woman living in the Uk and get back to me. Alternatively, publish a newspaper article or book critical of the Uk government and one critical of the Saudi regime then tell me in which country you feel most at risk of imminent dismemberment…
See. There is the brainwashing.
"It's great here so I don't care how many people we're killing in the rest of the world."
Go talk to someone in Iraq and Afghanistan whose family was harassed, killed by US/UK forces and then get back to me.