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You'd think that these Billionaire owners would want to improve their team. But I guess money means nothing to them.Between their human rights record and the way they are engaging in a blatant attempt at sportswashing, these are arguably the most abhorrent owne—
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Surprised that this isn't become much of a discussion tbhThe PL and UCL are already super leagues in all but name.
China are too busy buying the worldChina could buy every team in every sport and every TV channel that broadcasts those sports and it wouldn't make a dent. They don't give a shit about sportswashing surely.
why would a club refuse to play them?I know this will never happen but wouldn’t it be amazing if all clubs just refused to play them? They can’t do anything if they can’t play games, play all your other games but when it comes to Newcastle just act as if they don’t exist. Sure the PL can punish the clubs but if all 19 clubs other do it then punishments will mean feck all really and would force the powers that be to do something with regards to Newcastle. It’s the ultimate protest.
Arab finances seems to be her thing. She was involved in the Abu Dhabi takeover at City too apparently, acting as Sh Mansoor's advisor during that takeover, as well as Abu Dhabi's huge investment in Barclays bank. Her part in helping the Saudis acquire Newcastle resulted in her owning 10% of the club.Welcome Amanda
And what exactly would you like the powers that be to do regarding Newcastle in this situation you mentioned, where the other clubs refuse to play them?I know this will never happen but wouldn’t it be amazing if all clubs just refused to play them? They can’t do anything if they can’t play games, play all your other games but when it comes to Newcastle just act as if they don’t exist. Sure the PL can punish the clubs but if all 19 clubs other do it then punishments will mean feck all really and would force the powers that be to do something with regards to Newcastle. It’s the ultimate protest.
This would be the ideal response. Tres jujitsu.I know this will never happen but wouldn’t it be amazing if all clubs just refused to play them? They can’t do anything if they can’t play games, play all your other games but when it comes to Newcastle just act as if they don’t exist. Sure the PL can punish the clubs but if all 19 clubs other do it then punishments will mean feck all really and would force the powers that be to do something with regards to Newcastle. It’s the ultimate protest.
We should stop playing Man City and Chelsea too then?I know this will never happen but wouldn’t it be amazing if all clubs just refused to play them? They can’t do anything if they can’t play games, play all your other games but when it comes to Newcastle just act as if they don’t exist. Sure the PL can punish the clubs but if all 19 clubs other do it then punishments will mean feck all really and would force the powers that be to do something with regards to Newcastle. It’s the ultimate protest.
And why not, right? Imagine the extreme of what @ShinjiNinja26 is proposing. Cancellation by forfeiture.We should stop playing Man City and Chelsea too then?
Ive said this about City before. This project will fail if the league expanded CL to 5 spots and everybody played their reserves v Newcastle. It takes everything away.I know this will never happen but wouldn’t it be amazing if all clubs just refused to play them? They can’t do anything if they can’t play games, play all your other games but when it comes to Newcastle just act as if they don’t exist. Sure the PL can punish the clubs but if all 19 clubs other do it then punishments will mean feck all really and would force the powers that be to do something with regards to Newcastle. It’s the ultimate protest.
Why would Chelsea or City complain?I know this will never happen but wouldn’t it be amazing if all clubs just refused to play them? They can’t do anything if they can’t play games, play all your other games but when it comes to Newcastle just act as if they don’t exist. Sure the PL can punish the clubs but if all 19 clubs other do it then punishments will mean feck all really and would force the powers that be to do something with regards to Newcastle. It’s the ultimate protest.
Because the 19 clubs are reportedly very angry the Saudis were allowed to takeover, this would be the ultimate way of showing that discontentwhy would a club refuse to play them?
I dunno, it was a hypothetical idea and one that wasn’t really thought through ha. Maybe force the Saudi’s to sell up as it would be a pointless venture or at least make FFP or the PL take a very strict stance in the way they spent and operate in terms of sponsorship deals etc.And what exactly would you like the powers that be to do regarding Newcastle in this situation you mentioned, where the other clubs refuse to play them?
Yes.on the other hand, why should NUFC fans be held to account, when the crown prince is so close to our politicians and the royal family. should everyone who voted tory or who supports the monarchy also do penance for their support of the evil regime (KSA that is, not queenie)
Aye I would’ve said refuse to play them as well But the horse has already bolted on those 2 and yeah they won’t give a feck really as they’ve came up through similar means, especially City. It wasn’t a serious proposition anyways but surely things have to come to a head at some point or are we just going to let states and countries take over every club?Why would Chelsea or City complain?
In fact shouldn't clubs have protested and done this when Abramovich started all this chequebook madness and Abu Dhabi treated football like a supermarket?
This "long-suffering fans" bollox has surely got to stop now. Why is this narrative so pervasive when it comes to Newcastle fans? I've never got it at all. They're treated like fecking martyrs all the time because their team, what? Plays in the fecking Premier League. Oh, the horror of it. They happen to play it in one of the most elite leagues in the world in a 50,000+ seater stadium! The humanity of it all.On the one hand that all seems very sensible but on the other, Henry Winter thinks the human rights issue is best dealt with by a robust “comms strategy” and then finishes with a weird “Choose Life” esque outro, so it’s hard to know who to believe.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/apr/11/theobserver.uknews1But there was an outcry when news of the deal leaked out in September. Although all the United directors eventually accepted it, the fans were vehemently opposed. A pressure group, Shareholders United Against Murdoch (SUAM), fronted by BBC TV Newsnight reporter Michael Crick, quickly established itself as an incisive, articulate critic of the merger.
So she is like Helen from Ozarks.Arab finances seems to be her thing. She was involved in the Abu Dhabi takeover at City too apparently, acting as Sh Mansoor's advisor during that takeover, as well as Abu Dhabi's huge investment in Barclays bank. Her part in helping the Saudis acquire Newcastle resulted in her owning 10% of the club.
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El TexacoWhen Newcastle play Man City will it be called the Oil derby ? El Oilyco ?
In the general scheme of things, wouldn't any club accepting money from them be open to allegations of collusion or at the very least indifference?Between their human rights record and the way they are engaging in a blatant attempt at sportswashing, these are arguably the most abhorrent owne—
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so only clubs owned by oil rich states? what about clubs lower down the leagues that are owned by very wealthy folk, should they be boycotted as well for the sake of the game. Or is it just the middle eastern owners we have a problem with?This would be the ideal response. Tres jujitsu.
Imagine this movement across all the leagues to the point where even little kids treat the oil clubs as banter-fodder. “114 = 0” memes and such. All other nineteen clubs (in whatever league) forfeiting and treating them as a non-entity.
The power of the message that would send throughout society would be very interesting to watch unfold.
Yeap. Imagine City, Chelsea, and Newcastle taking 3 spots almost guaranteed and Liverpool, Man United, Arsenal, and Spurs battling for the only remaining spot? And then there is also Leicester and Villa...The league is fecked. There’s a fan of a top 4 clubs reading this story who isn’t that fussed but this investment means they’ll be pushed out of the top 4 and have set their club back years but they just don’t know it yet.
On another note. If this goes how we expect it to then England will be the de facto super league of football for the arms race alone
In the last 10 seasons, Chelsea have finished outside top 4 three times, finished 4th three times, finished 3rd once and won the title twice. We're hardly an impossible team to compete withYeap. Imagine City, Chelsea, and Newcastle taking 3 spots almost guaranteed and Liverpool, Man United, Arsenal, and Spurs battling for the only remaining spot? And then there is also Leicester and Villa...
Why don't we also invite PSG to EPL, instead of their toy league, and then if PSG and Barca also follow the suit - Bayern will be the only massive club outside EPL?
6 out of 10 is still a great record, right? Esp if you can keep it up when it gets even tougher. And my main point is: when shit gets even more real, you will step up because your owner both has money, is not shy to spend it, and (as opposed to Glazers) cares about winning far above making money. Glazers will probably just feck off it we stop being easy cash cowIn the last 10 seasons, Chelsea have finished outside top 4 three times, finished 4th three times, finished 3rd once and won the title twice. We've hardly an impossible team to compete with
Agree completely.In the last 10 seasons, Chelsea have finished outside top 4 three times, finished 4th three times, finished 3rd once and won the title twice. We've hardly an impossible team to compete with
China just strut about like any apex predator, without a care in the world.China could buy every team in every sport and every TV channel that broadcasts those sports and it wouldn't make a dent. They don't give a shit about sportswashing surely.
Would you have preffered him at Blackburn to the chicken men?
If you don't got that you ain't not never gonna not win nothing.