Next permanent manager | Poll updated

[croadyman]

There's no benefit in an interim until the summer than keeping Ole in post.

We are ether changing or we aren't. We wont get a good interim manager and what's the point in another thought process until it's changed in the summer! Crazy

Interim that could at least coach the players properly, therefore wouldn't want Carrick kept on too long

 

[romufc]

There's something about Poch that people seem to like, myself included.

But at the end of the day, you can only really judge a manager on results - and his aren't good enough.

He managed to finish 3rd in a 2 horse race the year Leicester won the title and all the traditionally big clubs in England were off the boil.

The biggest question mark surrounding Ten Hag, is the league he has been successful in - but at least he's been successful in it.

Poch took over one of the most expensively assembled teams in the history of football, and came second in a weaker league than the Dutch.

Make whatever excuses for him that you like, but there is absolutely no evidence that Poch is the man to bring success back to Old Trafford. He might come in and be successful, but it would be a lucky punt that came off, rather than a shrewd appointment.

I'm not in a Poch only camp or writing of Ten Hag but you are hypocritical in your post.

Firstly, you mention this 2 horse race that Poch bottled? Spurs started the season with 2 draws and a loss, after 9 games they were 7 points behind CIty who were top and 5 points behind Leicester and United.

After 20 games which is over midway, they were 4 points behind Leicester and 6 behind Arsenal. Again, where you get this 2 horse race from ?

From being points behind 25 games in they were level with Arsenal and one point above City. 5 behind Leicester. So this thing where people say it was Only Leicester and spurs is a myth.

Poch took over midway and they were 3rd so its not like they were top and he lost the league, which he probably win this year anyway.

Also isnt Ten Hag the one who lost out to Poch being 3-0 in the second leg?

Ten Hag plays good football but is also a very naive manager when it comes to defensive tactics, we have seen that with Ajax. He isn't guaranteed to win anything with us either.

 

[hurricane thunderclap]

I really want to believe that but the information is from a strong Utd source

The source is immaterial. He wants it or he doesn't. Players move for more money , to bigger clubs. They do6 say I want to try and get Wrexham promoted first. Neither do ambitious managers.

 

[Noc-Z]

Making the semi-finals with Ajax while dominating Real Madrid and Juventus and being 1 kick away from the CL final isn't a decent run.

It's not like they fluked it there.

Anyone is a risk. Nothing is guaranteed.

I class that as decent, no more really. With the standard of competition in The Netherlands, Ajax are almost guaranteed a shot at the Champions league every season aren't they? And they can probably afford to concentrate on it more. It's a cup, smaller teams raise their game. I don't think they dominated peak Juve or Real teams did they?

Of course, anyone is a risk and nothing is guaranteed, that goes without saying. But I said Ten Hag is a massive risk. There are different levels of risk.

 

[Fts 74]

I don't want Carrick in charge for longer than is necessary the thought of him being in charge for the rest of the season really worries me, as does an interim after Carrick.

If its Poch or Ten hag they want make them an offer we can't wait till the summer, I don't believe it would be money that prevents them buying out a contract as potentially missing out on top 4 would cost a lot more.

I'd love Ten hag but I wouldn't mind Poch, indecision has got us where we are now, for once can we please be decisive.

 

[Gazautd18]

Look, I'm not against the idea of Ten Hag and I think his work has been very impressive but I don't understand how he is seen so definitively (56% of this poll for example) as the answer to our problems at this stage

Think the poll would be if he could come in now.
I voted for ETH but looking at it logically, Pochettino if he's available now would be my choice.
I doubt the board are going to wait with an interim until summer and write the season off for Ten Hag.
People saying "wait until summer".
So what if we don't make top 4?
A permanent manager who's familiar with the Premier League can at least steady this shit, try for a decent cup run and try to get us back into the top 4 while trying to install a playing identity on the pitch!
And people want to wait until summer for an unproven Premiership manager who will then need to get the team to adapt to his way of playing?
Joke..

 

[croadyman]

I'd take Brucey until end of t'season if was told we would then be getting T'Hag.

Yeah same here

 

[Berbaclass]

Knowing both their board and ours, that would be the dream scenario so it definitely won't happen. Would be pleased if it did though of course.

Which side do you think the info is coming from? Could well be he’s putting it out there so we approach him. I imagine Fergie is chomping at the bit right now trying to get him in.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

People will always moan.

But if the choice is either Pochettino or Ten Hag, then I am absolutely delighted with that.

I expected by now it would be nailed on either Rodgers or Carrick. Or something ridiculous like that, like it normally is when we have a vacancy. Having the choice of Pochettino or Ten Hag would be a breath of fresh air. Like most, I would love Ten Hag as my #1 choice mind.

 

[Ajr]

Surely poch would want to stay at psg this year just so he's won something?

 

[pseudo_canadian]

People will laugh, but I'd rather have him than Carrick.

Oh easily.

 

[dwd]

Which side do you think the info is coming from? Could well be he’s putting it out there so we approach him. I imagine Fergie is chomping at the bit right now trying to get him in.

I agree it's definitely Poch's team feeding info to Stone.

 

[Berbaclass]

I class that as decent, no more really. With the standard of competition in The Netherlands, Ajax are almost guaranteed a shot at the Champions league every season aren't they? And they can probably afford to concentrate on it more. It's a cup, smaller teams raise their game. I don't think they dominated peak Juve or Real teams did they?

Of course, anyone is a risk and nothing is guaranteed, that goes without saying. But I said Ten Hag is a massive risk. There are different levels of risk.

I think the Dutch FA are very accommodating with Ajax in Europe also with rearranging their games. I’m certain I’ve seen them do that.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Surely poch would want to stay at psg this year just so he's won something?

He'll get the boot if he has an early CL exit at which point the United job may be gone.

Also, no one respects the French League title win under PSG as any decent achievement.

 

[MUFC OK]

I like the idea of Pochettino now. Gives him two windows before we essentially start next season. I think he’d get into the CL this season too.

If he doesn't, we have to accept that as collateral of this board failing to act soon enough. He seems to really want this job and would keep the harmony which seems to be important to the owners. The likes of Amad, Hannibal, Elanga, Laird might get a look in next season too.

 

[Berbaclass]

Surely poch would want to stay at psg this year just so he's won something?

It’s a bit meaningless though isn’t it?

 

[croadyman]

People will always moan.

But if the choice is either Pochettino or Ten Hag, then I am absolutely delighted with that.

I expected by now it would be nailed on either Rodgers or Carrick. Or something ridiculous like that, like it normally is when we have a vacancy. Having the choice of Pochettino or Ten Hag would be a breath of fresh air. Like most, I would love Ten Hag as my #1 choice mind.

Oh yeah absolutely delighted if it's a choice between them two, just have this nagging fear that lot from across the City take Ten Hag to replace Pep

 

[Berbaclass]

If he doesn't, we have to accept that as collateral of this board failing to act soon enough. He seems to really want this job and would keep the harmony which seems to be important to the owners. The likes of Amad, Hannibal, Elanga, Laird might get a look in next season too.

Absolutely and I’m sure that we will see the bigger picture.

 

[mark clatternburg]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...ews/man-utd-brendan-rodgers-leicester-6240573
This is from the Leicester Mercury, and theres a lot of buz down here that he’s going.

 

[NK86]

Time doesn't change the fact that you start from scratch and logically spent time to learn and understand new things, if you even learn something. Time isn't a substitute for expertise and experience.

City did it in similar duration and starting from a far worse situation than us. Setting up a structure doesn't take 8 years at a start up, let alone one which is a multi billion dollar establishment.

 

[AshRK]

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Glad it won't be him.

 

[croadyman]

Which side do you think the info is coming from? Could well be he’s putting it out there so we approach him. I imagine Fergie is chomping at the bit right now trying to get him in.

Like I said earlier it's no coincidence he's heavily linked with job two days before his current team are in Manchester

 

[glazed]

So sell Ronaldo…
Surely the manager has ultimate power..? If not, who does…?
Ed Woodward?

Yeah they won't sell Ronaldo. He's going to be hard to shift. They will try and make it work. Don't be surprised if Ronny vetoes both Poch and ETH.

As if this years buzzword high press is going to compensate for our back four.

It's been around for more than a year. The clubs doing it well seem to have a high correlation with winning stuff. This is not a coincidence.

Our back four really isn't that bad. At the start of the season I called it world class. But no defense can cope with relentless recycled attack from midfield because you can't screen or hold possession in that part of the pitch. After a while you become so shell shocked and demoralised that you look worse than you are. But the idea that Maguire Shaw AWB and Varane are inherently shit is just nonsense. McFred Matic and Pogba as DMs is the problem.

 

[NicolaSacco]

The biggest problem you’ve got, and apologies if it’s already been said, is trying to divide your aims for the future with relation to what has passed. Solskjær has clearly made some positive changes. You want to keep those. There are situations where he was *able* to make changes but couldn’t. A lot of tactical things come to mind. So you need a manger who will maintain the things that need to stay whilst also adding to that by changing the things that Solskjær should have, but didn’t, change. Then there are the elements that Solskjær never had a chance in hell of changing due to the people above him, the general management and structure. They need to be dealt with separately to the change of manager. Although this sounds simplistic, I actually imagine it as being very difficult. And in all honestly which clubs have all 3 of those ducks lined up. You could argue Liverpool and City. Less so Chelsea although it’s still quite early to make that judgement. One of the reasons I think Zidane might be a bad idea is that he’d really only fulfil the second of those objectives. I don’t think he’d have the long term view that Ole had, nor do I think he’d be able to contribute to a structural change. I think your best bet is still Brendan Rogers for being able to pull all those strands together. As much as Ten Haag is viewed as the right fit, he does what he does within a set up that that couldn’t be replicated here. It would lead to fall outs between the manger and owners, unless he was so effective like Klopp that any criticism was blown away by results.

 

[CallyRed]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...ews/man-utd-brendan-rodgers-leicester-6240573
This is from the Leicester Mercury, and theres a lot of buz down here that he’s going.

Shit a brick what a laugh that would be

 

[Ayoba]

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Glad it won't be him.

Jesus Christ I almost shit a brick there!

 

[croadyman]

Shit a brick what a laugh that would be

FFS get it down to Pochettino and Ten Hag

 

[dwd]

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Glad it won't be him.

Just need Brentan to sign an extension now and I'll be relatively calmer about the situation.

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Oh stop it. If you cannot fit the worlds highest goalscorer in your side then dont come to OT. What would you do with Haaland or any other of the non pressing top scorers in the game.
No one is thinking straight.

Of course, they are thinking straight. If you want to play a high press game you can't do that with Ronaldo upfront. So bringing in a manager whose specially is that kind of football makes no sense as they won't be able to play it here.

 

[Leftback99]

I'm all for expected goals as it's a very useful tool to determine performance indicators, but we're dealing with a differential of 18 goals in 13 games between them. Perhaps there's some luck, but another factor that raises an xG rating is the number of shots, so it could be also that PSV concede better chances whereas Ajax court more volume of shots overall but not necessarily from as dangerous positions. This too would elevate the xG score, whilst giving a reason as to why they've conceded few goals.

Besides, not only have Ajax conceded less, but they've scored 11 more. They might be 'lucky' in one metric, but in two? Nah.

There can easily be big variances over just a 13 game sample. They've won 9-0 and beat PSV themselves 5-0, those two alone explain a large chuck of it.

Not saying he'd be a bad choice but I wouldnt expect anything similar in the PL and we'd have to be patient.

 

[Rado_N]

Why must people reduce everyone’s bloody name to three letters?

ETH is a cryptocurrency.

 

[Berbaclass]

Just need Brentan to sign an extension now and I'll be relatively calmer about the situation.

I think he had done well this season instead of a bit shit then we would go for him.

 

[Mickeza]

Use Rodgers to draw out Poch/Ten Hag. None of this we’ll come but in 7 months bollocks - if you want the job you come now or not at all.

 

[croadyman]

There can easily be big variances over just a 13 game sample. They've won 9-0 and beat PSV themselves 5-0, those two alone explain a large chuck of it.

Not saying he'd be a bad choice but I wouldnt expect anything similar in the PL and we'd have to be patient.

Yeah I would happily be prepared to give him all the time needed to put his unique blueprint on this club

 

[thegregster]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...ews/man-utd-brendan-rodgers-leicester-6240573
This is from the Leicester Mercury, and theres a lot of buz down here that he’s going.

All the talk is leaks from his side. He isn't wanted at United.

Although its funny how much he wants the job. Liverpool fans on here were convinced he wouldn't go to United. That was when he stock was high in 2019/20 before he messed up top 4. As if he would be loyal to a club that sacked him.

 

[hurricane thunderclap]

Yeah they won't sell Ronaldo. He's going to be hard to shift. They will try and make it work. Don't be surprised if Ronny vetoes both Poch and ETH.



It's been around for more than a year. The clubs doing it well seem to have a high correlation with winning stuff. This is not a coincidence.

Our back four really isn't that bad. At the start of the season I called it world class. But no defense can cope with relentless recycled attack from midfield because you can't screen or hold possession in that part of the pitch. After a while you become so shell shocked and demoralised that you look worse than you are. But the idea that Maguire Shaw AWB and Varane are inherently shit is just nonsense. McFred Matic and Pogba as DMs is the problem.

I keep listing the top teams and goalscorers in europe and they all like ronaldo don't do much pressing. It is just a buzzword.

 

[Leftback99]

Yeah I would happily be prepared to give him all the time needed to put his unique blueprint on this club

Easier said than done on here in particular.

 

[Wilt]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...ews/man-utd-brendan-rodgers-leicester-6240573
This is from the Leicester Mercury, and theres a lot of buz down here that he’s going.

More like Leicester wanting to get rid of Rodgers and being paid compensation at the same time.

Having paid £80m for Maguire, Utd can’t be stupid enough ….or can they?

 

[croadyman]

Use Rodgers to draw out Poch/Ten Hag. None of this we’ll come but in 7 months bollocks - if you want the job you come now or not at all.

Well by sounds of what Stone said that could work for Pochettino, however can we afford to leave Ten Hag for someone else to take

 

[Kaos]

Just need Brentan to sign an extension now and I'll be relatively calmer about the situation.

He's contracted to Leicester until 2025, if that eases your worries?

Mind you his job's not entirely secure, so I'm praying Leicester don't sack him, nor do we pay out his clause.