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RMC says that he refuse to comment on rumours that he didn't create, they also say that they will grill him tomorrow. We will see if he cracks.
It's starting to look inevitable. We'll get Poch and PSG will hire Zidane. I'm feeling perfectly fine with that. In fact out of all the managers post Ferguson I'd say I feel more optimistic about him than any of them.
I watched I Believe In Miracles last night, purely because if I could pick any manager through history besides prime Fergie to get the job now, it would be him.
Looks like Pochettino wants out (or at least doesn't want to risk missing out on the United job by staying at PSG till the end of the season).
I have no doubt that if it's a genuine choice between Pochettino now or Ten Hag/Rodgers in the summer, that the Board will take the former option.
The positives are that he's an upgrade on Solskjaer and, if these reports are to be believed, he really, really wants to manage United. Apparently he has a great relationship with SAF, too, which cannot hurt.
The negative, is that we will quite likely come to regret missing out on Ten Hag when we had the opportunity to get him.
I have no doubt that if it's a genuine choice between Pochettino now or Ten Hag/Rodgers in the summer, that the Board will take the former option.
The positives are that he's an upgrade on Solskjaer and, if these reports are to be believed, he really, really wants to manage United. Apparently he has a great relationship with SAF, too, which cannot hurt.
The negative, is that we will quite likely come to regret missing out on Ten Hag when we had the opportunity to get him.
Well his interview yesterday was in stark contrast to his flat denial about Barca...so that's something. We're not going to know much more than that at this stage.
In terms of the overall scenario, no doubt Ten Hag is a risk but massively worth taking IMO. We've got to bring in an up and coming manager with a chance of being a big success and not a 'big name'. This is particularly the case given that there really aren't any standout candidates as an alternative.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get him right now and best scenario would be just go to Ajax and buy out his contract. Failing that, I'd rather wait to get him in 6 months time rather than not getting him at all.
Paying compensation to PSG for a manager that they're going to sack soon anyway. Typical of us.
He absolutely was backed, make no mistake about it. This argument needs to stop.
Our relationship with PSG is pretty decent is it not? Sir Alex went over to their Manchester hotel to meet Al-KhelaifI and Poch earlier this year when they played City in the CL Semis. I can buy that Zidane would take on the PSG job and PSG wanting him because he’s Mr 3 In A Row for the trophy they truly want.
Plus Zidane seems more a better fit for that PSG team, and Poch is better for the Utd team.
Simultaneously, Zidane and Poch will be the first two managers who managed both Ronaldo and Messi.
Plus Zidane seems more a better fit for that PSG team, and Poch is better for the Utd team.
Simultaneously, Zidane and Poch will be the first two managers who managed both Ronaldo and Messi.
Genius. Not sure anyone would go for that though. Giving up PSG where you could win the Champions League, managing Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, to come to the chaos of United with only 9 months before you could be totally out of work again. One hell of a risk.
2015/16: 2nd most goals scored in the league, two goals behind City. Spurs also had the league's best GD that season, conceding the least of all 19 clubs.
2016/17: most goals scored in the league. Also least conceded and best GD.
2017/18: 3rd most goals scored.
His last season wasn't too impressive, but for most of his stint at Spurs, he was doing absolutely phenomenal things for a club of its stature. And while he did get sacked in the end, he had been there for five years by then and they mainly sacked him because they had the opportunity to get Mourinho literally the very next day. It's not as if he left in disgrace, they just wanted to see if they could climb even further than they had under Poch. And of course they didn't. They plummeted instantaneously after Poch left, finishing 6th and 7th under Mourinho whereas Poch had kept them in consistent top 4 finishes except for his first one in 2014/15 where we bumped them down to 5th at the very end of the season.
Poch did an incredible job at Spurs, and while he's clearly uneasy in Paris, they're 11 points clear in the league and undefeated in the CL. I would never fault any manager for being uncomfortable at PSG, that club is a circus and the players are impossible to handle. They've had six different managers in the last decade, most of whom stayed only one or two years. That job is a nightmare for anyone and it says nothing whatsoever about Pochettino himself. If anything, I get the sense that he's too much of a professional for that place.
2016/17: most goals scored in the league. Also least conceded and best GD.
2017/18: 3rd most goals scored.
His last season wasn't too impressive, but for most of his stint at Spurs, he was doing absolutely phenomenal things for a club of its stature. And while he did get sacked in the end, he had been there for five years by then and they mainly sacked him because they had the opportunity to get Mourinho literally the very next day. It's not as if he left in disgrace, they just wanted to see if they could climb even further than they had under Poch. And of course they didn't. They plummeted instantaneously after Poch left, finishing 6th and 7th under Mourinho whereas Poch had kept them in consistent top 4 finishes except for his first one in 2014/15 where we bumped them down to 5th at the very end of the season.
Poch did an incredible job at Spurs, and while he's clearly uneasy in Paris, they're 11 points clear in the league and undefeated in the CL. I would never fault any manager for being uncomfortable at PSG, that club is a circus and the players are impossible to handle. They've had six different managers in the last decade, most of whom stayed only one or two years. That job is a nightmare for anyone and it says nothing whatsoever about Pochettino himself. If anything, I get the sense that he's too much of a professional for that place.
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Why would they sack him soon? Hes 11 points clear of 1st in the league and going to qualify his group from Champions League.
Probably money, maybe managing one of the biggest clubs in the world?
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All the pieces are coming together, i think this is a goer
He will get the standard United contract - 3 year interim
This dichotomy being painted that Ten Hag is too much of a risk, making Poch a safer choice is some what baffling to me.
Both could be equally disastrous either way, there's an equal risk because neither have been Manchester United manager previously.
I do agree Ten Hag would want structural changes at the club, but we need structural changes regardless of the manager.
The way we're setup is a detriment, not a benefit, regardless if it's Poch or Ten Hag.
It's not out of the possibilities though that we fail utterly with Poch and then Ten Hag joins a rival and shows up our board, throwing salt in the wound.
For me the difference would be who wants it more, and currently that looks like Poch; it's up to Erik to change that though.
Both could be equally disastrous either way, there's an equal risk because neither have been Manchester United manager previously.
I do agree Ten Hag would want structural changes at the club, but we need structural changes regardless of the manager.
The way we're setup is a detriment, not a benefit, regardless if it's Poch or Ten Hag.
It's not out of the possibilities though that we fail utterly with Poch and then Ten Hag joins a rival and shows up our board, throwing salt in the wound.
For me the difference would be who wants it more, and currently that looks like Poch; it's up to Erik to change that though.
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Well if it’s Poch, this is a chance to prove himself or be forever known as a bottler
Snap! So did I…
Although Clough is rightly revered within the game, there was definitely a ‘vibes man’ about him. His players, pretty much to a man, say there was no tactics talks to speak of pre-match. That wouldn’t fly nowadays of course, but back then in the ‘70s, before sports science, performance data and the tactical evolution we’ve seen since, it wasn’t an issue.
Peter Taylor was every bit the genius Clough was, IMO. Had a great eye for a player and the two of them worked so, so well together. Clough adored Taylor (see Taylor leading out the Forest team for the 1978 League Cup Final… imagine a manager doing that now?!
) and was humble enough - despite the arrogant persona attributed to him - to realise he was immeasurably better with his trusted sidekick.It is a great watch, mind. Loved every bit of it. What a player John Robertson was, eh?
It’s more like a way to not burn a bridge.
Big 56 hours.
Varane wasn't for sale and didn't want to leave, Leicester were allegedly asking for +100m after the World Cup hype and he got Bailly and Lindelof the previous years.
Then he better be as amazing as it says on the tin, otherwise the board will have fecked up yet another major decision
Us and Zizou have baited PSG so we get Poch and he gets PSG? 4D chess again from the Ed.
He wasn't backed in the third season I do agree but he also wanted ageing players like Willian... Not to mention if I remember correctly he wanted Matic ahead of Fabinho.
Glad he wasn't in the end, imagine if we bought Willian.
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He was backed in the third too. People seem to conveniently ignore that we added Sanchez 6 months earlier with the summer budget, we then added Fred and Dalot for 80m.
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Yeah let's see. I find it strange that he's willing to give up a league title and a good shot at the CL in the middle of the season, if the rumours are true.
Can you elaborate and compare to how Ole was backed?
Knowing our board its just a matter of time until this with Pochettino falls apart and they pay Leicester in panic for Rodgers
yeah i assume he knows psg prob wont be long term, but man considering the main knock on him is that he hasnt really won anything dropping a sure thing in the league title and then a good chance at CL for a team where either will be years away seems....weird timing wise
To be fair to Poch: as far as top jobs go, the United job is evidently not that easy. Van Gaal and Mourinho had excellent resumes and spent big, but they still failed.
It would be tragic for Poch if he failed at United and never got another top job. We can meme about the farmer's league, but at least it's a league title. If he's walking away from that(and that attack), then I reckon things must be quite toxic behind the scenes.
Yeah, we'd have to be absolutely bonkers to do that, having extended and paid off 3 managers in a row after giving them long contracts. Then again, we are.
Agree with this. Ten Hagg is the unknown quantity so a bit more exciting in what could be but Pochettino certainly has the better credentials for the job right now.
Poch is the boring choice I guess, and doesn't excite.
the problem is the board don’t want the structural changes
By backed I mean his targets. We brought in both Sanchez and Fred purely to stop City from buying them really.
He's all but guaranteed a job at one of the super clubs as it is, why sign up for us when we're not even guaranteed to be in the CL next year and Bayern, Real, Chelsea or whoever else could be available at the end of the season for all we know? It's one thing to sign for us now and take charge, but to pre-sign to a club in crisis and rule out everyone other club would be a pretty stupid decision on his part.
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