Who told you that?
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Looking at that, written down. Horrifying isn't it.
The way this club's been run...
Perfect timing - batter City and then ride into Manchester as a hero and take the reins as the new United manager.
Not to the Glazers' dividends. That's the problem. It will always be the problem till they go.
What has Pocchetino ever won?
The people who make the decisions at our clubs heart, and thats the real quiz.
What has Ten Hag won apart from a Dutch league where his team's budget dwarves that of his competitors?
Pochettino got Tottenham to play some excellent football.
Fergie's respect and admiration
He wanted Sanchez. I still remember his beaming face saying the attack was now complete after he signed him.
As has been pointed out Varane wasn't ready to leave at the time, you don't always get what you want.
As you pointed out he got 2 CB's as is, he doubled our wage bill in a 2 year period and spent more than Ole, how is that not being backed?
Both managers were backed.
I've no doubt Ole didn't get all the players his heart desired either, I mean we needed a CM and we certainly did chase Camavinga for example, didn't get him as his preferred choice was Real.
The constant moaning about Jose not getting a 3rd CB after already been given Bailly and Lindelof whilst ignoring both in favor of Jones and Smalling for the most part is ridiculous.
Who is available right now who wants the job and has won things? Pochettino is one of the best options available that maybe would want the job now
The more I think about it, the more I think Poch is the right fit. Premier League experience (there's a world of difference between the PL and the Dutch league), Took Spurs to within touching distance of major trophies despite having a miserable amount of money for transfers, developed young talent into top players and would be willing to move now. ETH is a top coach but would be more of a gamble IMHO. Forget the rest. Just saying.
It actually is because we are leaving nearly 100m on the table while investing in the team like a CL contender. People seem to think that the Glazers are calculative when they are just a bit dumb.
Edit: Those millions increase dividends by quite a bit.
Seriously, if we get Poch sorted this week we've worked miracles here
He also said there are certain players when they become available, you sign them.
Does it matter? This argument only stands until he wins something big. People said the same about Klopp, and then he won something and this noise went away
He definitely wanted him. He played him often enough when it was clear he was finished.
Well if this does happen, almost seems like they may have made the right decision to act early, for once.
Pochettino seems to be the perfect guy to continue with what the board has been doing: Trying to stay in the top 4 and maybe win a cup every now and then.
Feckinhell, he probably wanted Messi, Ronaldo, Kroos, Modric and Bale too but he got other options he signed off on seeing as they all weren't available. There's being backed and there's living in a fantasy land that only exists in Jose's head.
And on Maguire, we signed him, for £50m, then Jose vetoed it because he said he'd get hammered in the press after giving Pep shit for spending £50m on fullbacks.
He should have gotten a trophy for getting Spurs to the CL final though. Its Spurs for fecks sake.
He’s about to win the league & won the cup last season.
Klopp actually won the league before Liverpool though, his Dortmund were the best team in Germany from 2010-2013
No he didnt. VG was backed Mourinho was backed, but none were backed as much as Ole.
It's the easiest non-issue argument to make. If he had coached a top team for several years i think it would be relevant.
Roy Keane as interim. I don't give a feck anymore, someone needs laying into Maguire.
I'd not heard that before but then he kicked up a stink over not being backed didn't he?
Or else he really is in love with the idea of managing United
but yeah strange decision, maybe he feels the sack coming. PSG probably gonna move on zidane early as we were sniffing around
Yeah as much as I don't want him, if we can get him in place for the Chelsea game or at least in the stands or its practically a done dealio, they've done well.
I....have my doubts.
First Google search I found but there are more credible sources if anyone wants to take a deep dive: https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/16/manc...man-utd-jose-mourinho-harry-maguire-11169116/
Yeah he did, kicked off about not being backed in the window despite reports saying otherwise. He also used to have massive go's at the logistics team for the coaches/flights/hotels they would book for away games, despite there being no other way to travel to and from the venues. The guy was just putting a wrecking ball through everything he touched really.
I agree. Eventually though you've got to come to the conclusion that the decisions you've been making as a board haven't been working, and structural changes are simply mandatory for the health of the club (both as a football club and a business).
It just feels like there's way too many corners being cut, both currently and historically, and pulling a City-esque move of "give us Ten Hag, give us Van De Sar, give us Overmars!" is simply a requirement.
I'd make the same argument for Poch though to be fair, I just don't have much hope for Poch with the current setup, I don't think anyone could do it (outside of inventing a time machine and bringing in treble winning Ferguson).
We should hire Keane for this regardless. Keep him locked in a cupboard and just point to it at half time when Maguire's playing shit.
Some managers do think about other things than trophy tally, though. Fans are not the only ones who think it's more impressive when a manager takes on a real challenge and succeeds, rather than opting for the lowest-hanging fruit. PSG have won the league in all but two seasons in the last decade, so it really doesn't count for very much. Look at Klopp, he could certainly have found an easier route to trophies than Liverpool in 2015, but he wanted to make a legacy for himself. It's not unheard-of for managers to want to prove themselves and show the world that they can do something not everyone can do. I think it's encouraging, if anything. A manager wanting to leave PSG who are already almost guaranteed to win the league, being 11 points clear after fourteen games, in favor of United and the difficult task that awaits him here, is rather flattering for us.
Sure, he could finally get that trophy under his belt, but it'll always come with a note of "yeah, well, it was Ligue 1 with PSG. Big whoop." Maybe he's a romantic and wants his first league title to come with the added glory of being the man who led United to rise from the ashes. And his family is already in England and used to the culture, so there's that. Hell, his own son plays in the PL (sort of; he's a reserve at Watford) so it's likely that Poch sees the PL as a much more appealing trophy.
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It must be really toxic for Poch to be so desperate. Its a guaranteed league title and a chance to wipe off the "haven't won a trophy" reputation
His wife and kids also live in London and he's been apart from them for a good chunk of the pandemic, so there might be more banal personal reasons for him wanting to return to the UK asap as well.
they’ve had you smoking too many cigarettes in that laboratory fella
Not 100% sure on Poch, but if we can get him our of PSG we've done amazing there.
You feel that like Jose we have to scratch that itch and get it out our system.
Ignore he got sacked from Tottenham and remember he almost did the unthinkable with them, winning.
You feel that like Jose we have to scratch that itch and get it out our system.
Ignore he got sacked from Tottenham and remember he almost did the unthinkable with them, winning.
Yes maybe he’s a closet Tory
Most coaches haven't won anything, despite Poch winning a cup with PSG this season. Then they get to a big team if they're good at their job and then they win stuff, like Poch will this season if he stays at PSG. It's a daft argument.
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