Who told you that?By backed I mean his targets. We brought in both Sanchez and Fred purely to stop City from buying them really.
Who told you that?By backed I mean his targets. We brought in both Sanchez and Fred purely to stop City from buying them really.
Looking at that, written down. Horrifying isn't it.He was backed in the third two. People seem to conveniently ignore that we added Sanchez 6 months earlier with the summer budget, we then added Fred and Dalot for 80m.
Perfect timing - batter City and then ride into Manchester as a hero and take the reins as the new United manager.yeah i assume he knows psg prob wont be long term, but man considering the main knock on him is that he hasnt really won anything dropping a sure thing in the league title and then a good chance at CL for a team where either will be years away seems....weird timing wise
Not to the Glazers' dividends. That's the problem. It will always be the problem till they go.I do agree Ten Hag would want structural changes at the club, but we need structural changes regardless of the manager.
The way we're setup is a detriment, not a benefit, regardless if it's Poch or Ten Hag.
The people who make the decisions at our clubs heart, and thats the real quiz.What has Pocchetino ever won?
What has Ten Hag won apart from a Dutch league where his team's budget dwarves that of his competitors?What has Pocchetino ever won?
Pochettino got Tottenham to play some excellent football.Agree with this. Ten Hagg is the unknown quantity so a bit more exciting in what could be but Pochettino certainly has the better credentials for the job right now.
Poch is the boring choice I guess, and doesn't excite.
Fergie's respect and admirationWhat has Pocchetino ever won?
He wanted Sanchez. I still remember his beaming face saying the attack was now complete after he signed him.By backed I mean his targets. We brought in both Sanchez and Fred purely to stop City from buying them really.
As has been pointed out Varane wasn't ready to leave at the time, you don't always get what you want.He wanted Varane and Maguire didn't he?
He got Lindelof and Bailly....
Both managers were backed.Can you elaborate and compare to how Ole was backed?
Who is available right now who wants the job and has won things? Pochettino is one of the best options available that maybe would want the job nowWhat has Pocchetino ever won?
It actually is because we are leaving nearly 100m on the table while investing in the team like a CL contender. People seem to think that the Glazers are calculative when they are just a bit dumb.Not to the Glazers' dividends. That's the problem. It will always be the problem till they go.
He also said there are certain players when they become available, you sign them.He wanted Sanchez. I still remember his beaming face saying the attack was now complete after he signed him.
Does it matter? This argument only stands until he wins something big. People said the same about Klopp, and then he won something and this noise went awayWhat has Pocchetino ever won?
He definitely wanted him. He played him often enough when it was clear he was finished.He wanted Sanchez. I still remember his beaming face saying the attack was now complete after he signed him.
Feckinhell, he probably wanted Messi, Ronaldo, Kroos, Modric and Bale too but he got other options he signed off on seeing as they all weren't available. There's being backed and there's living in a fantasy land that only exists in Jose's head.He wanted Varane and Maguire didn't he?
He got Lindelof and Bailly....
He should have gotten a trophy for getting Spurs to the CL final though. Its Spurs for fecks sake.What has Pocchetino ever won?
He’s about to win the league & won the cup last season.What has Pocchetino ever won?
Klopp actually won the league before Liverpool though, his Dortmund were the best team in Germany from 2010-2013Does it matter? This argument only stands until he wins something big. People said the same about Klopp, and then he won something and this noise went away
No he didnt. VG was backed Mourinho was backed, but none were backed as much as Ole.As has been pointed out Varane wasn't ready to leave at the time, you don't always get what you want.
As you pointed out he got 2 CB's as is, he doubled our wage bill in a 2 year period and spent more than Ole, how is that not being backed?
It's the easiest non-issue argument to make. If he had coached a top team for several years i think it would be relevant.Does it matter? This argument only stands until he wins something big. People said the same about Klopp, and then he won something and this noise went away
I'd not heard that before but then he kicked up a stink over not being backed didn't he?Feckinhell, he probably wanted Messi, Ronaldo, Kroos, Modric and Bale too but he got other options he signed off on seeing as they all weren't available. There's being backed and there's living in a fantasy land that only exists in Jose's head.
And on Maguire, we signed him, for £50m, then Jose vetoed it because he said he'd get hammered in the press after giving Pep shit for spending £50m on fullbacks.
Or else he really is in love with the idea of managing UnitedTo be fair to Poch: as far as top jobs go, the United job is evidently not that easy. Van Gaal and Mourinho had excellent resumes and spent big, but they still failed.
It would be tragic for Poch if he failed at United and never got another top job. We can meme about the farmer's league, but at least it's a league title. If he's walking away from that(and that attack), then I reckon things must be quite toxic behind the scenes.
Yeah as much as I don't want him, if we can get him in place for the Chelsea game or at least in the stands or its practically a done dealio, they've done well.Seriously, if we get Poch sorted this week we've worked miracles here
First Google search I found but there are more credible sources if anyone wants to take a deep dive: https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/16/manc...man-utd-jose-mourinho-harry-maguire-11169116/I'd not heard that before but then he kicked up a stink over not being backed didn't he?
I agree. Eventually though you've got to come to the conclusion that the decisions you've been making as a board haven't been working, and structural changes are simply mandatory for the health of the club (both as a football club and a business).the problem is the board don’t want the structural changes
We should hire Keane for this regardless. Keep him locked in a cupboard and just point to it at half time when Maguire's playing shit.Roy Keane as interim. I don't give a feck anymore, someone needs laying into Maguire.
Some managers do think about other things than trophy tally, though. Fans are not the only ones who think it's more impressive when a manager takes on a real challenge and succeeds, rather than opting for the lowest-hanging fruit. PSG have won the league in all but two seasons in the last decade, so it really doesn't count for very much. Look at Klopp, he could certainly have found an easier route to trophies than Liverpool in 2015, but he wanted to make a legacy for himself. It's not unheard-of for managers to want to prove themselves and show the world that they can do something not everyone can do. I think it's encouraging, if anything. A manager wanting to leave PSG who are already almost guaranteed to win the league, being 11 points clear after fourteen games, in favor of United and the difficult task that awaits him here, is rather flattering for us.yeah i assume he knows psg prob wont be long term, but man considering the main knock on him is that he hasnt really won anything dropping a sure thing in the league title and then a good chance at CL for a team where either will be years away seems....weird timing wise
It must be really toxic for Poch to be so desperate. Its a guaranteed league title and a chance to wipe off the "haven't won a trophy" reputationOr else he really is in love with the idea of managing United
but yeah strange decision, maybe he feels the sack coming. PSG probably gonna move on zidane early as we were sniffing around
His wife and kids also live in London and he's been apart from them for a good chunk of the pandemic, so there might be more banal personal reasons for him wanting to return to the UK asap as well.Or else he really is in love with the idea of managing United
but yeah strange decision, maybe he feels the sack coming. PSG probably gonna move on zidane early as we were sniffing around
they’ve had you smoking too many cigarettes in that laboratory fellaI have voted for Brendan Rodgers. A consistent overachiever who advocates playing decent football.
Yes maybe he’s a closet ToryHis wife and kids also live in London and he's been apart from them for a good chunk of the pandemic, so there might be more banal personal reasons for him wanting to return to the UK asap as well.
Most coaches haven't won anything, despite Poch winning a cup with PSG this season. Then they get to a big team if they're good at their job and then they win stuff, like Poch will this season if he stays at PSG. It's a daft argument.It's the easiest non-issue argument to make. If he had coached a top team for several years i think it would be relevant.