Good start for the Cowboys. March right down and get a TD. Hester return denied as well.
NFL Thread 2013-14
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
And the Bears march right down and get 7. Jesus these two defences are bad. And that is coming from a Vikings fan.
Going to be entertaining. 
What a block by Marshall on Lee!
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Cheapshot IMO. Epitome of a "defenseless player." You just never know which refs are going to call what, correctly or incorrectly.
From a 14-14 game to a rout. Dallas' defense is horrendous, one of the worst I have ever witnessed in my thirty years of watching NFL games. Have no idea why Garrett stopped running Murray - he was on pace for 200 yards by mid-second quarter.
Cheapshot IMO. Epitome of a "defenseless player." You just never know which refs are going to call what, correctly or incorrectly.
From a 14-14 game to a rout. Dallas' defense is horrendous, one of the worst I have ever witnessed in my thirty years of watching NFL games. Have no idea why Garrett stopped running Murray - he was on pace for 200 yards by mid-second quarter.
Kyle Orton... lol. The only QB to lose his place to Tim Tebow.
Dallas' defense is on pace to be one of the worst in league history. At this rate, they'll surrender over 6830 yards of offense, only 212 yards shy of New Orleans record for futility set in 2012. [The 1981 Baltimore Colts still hold the record for most points allowed, 533, and had held the yards allowed mark, 6793, until the aforementioned Saints, however, that was in an era that benefited defenses and teams still ran more than pass, take of that what you will].
Dallas has allowed the most 400 yard passing games in a season (4). They are on pace to finish just shy of the most passing yards allowed in a season, 4796 (Green Bay 2011), having surrendered 3887 through 13 games (299/pg), a pace of 4784.
Dallas is allowing 26.7/ppg, 7th worst in the league this season (New Orleans surrendered 28.4/ppg in 2012). This season, NO's defense is much better than 2012, and far better than Dallas this season.
We all know who the DC in New Orleans is.
Dallas has allowed the most 400 yard passing games in a season (4). They are on pace to finish just shy of the most passing yards allowed in a season, 4796 (Green Bay 2011), having surrendered 3887 through 13 games (299/pg), a pace of 4784.
Dallas is allowing 26.7/ppg, 7th worst in the league this season (New Orleans surrendered 28.4/ppg in 2012). This season, NO's defense is much better than 2012, and far better than Dallas this season.
We all know who the DC in New Orleans is.
You need to have 'the cafs John Gruden' on your tagline!
Haha. I can't stand that guy. One of the most overrated coaches in history, and a pundit that just infuriates me at times. I imagine he masturbates to historical stat lines and dissecting passing plays.
Ah I kinda like him. I like his voice on MNF, especially as its dead late at night over here. Definitely an over-rated coach though from his time in Tampa. Maybe that's why he won't go back in to it. He'll get found out!
What about Mike Mayock? 
The rules are there to stop helmet to helmet hits. There is a big area below the head but above the knee.
I know - am just going by what players have said.
There is a big area until the offenseive player bends down/lowers their own helmet. Thats when the defenders are getting penalised and fined for helmet to helmet hits.
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Cheapshot IMO. Epitome of a "defenseless player." You just never know which refs are going to call what, correctly or incorrectly.
From a 14-14 game to a rout. Dallas' defense is horrendous, one of the worst I have ever witnessed in my thirty years of watching NFL games. Have no idea why Garrett stopped running Murray - he was on pace for 200 yards by mid-second quarter.
Not at all - a defenseless player is one classed as in the act of catching a ball for example. That was a great block in my opinion.
Having played both sports I agree with you. The way you hit/tackle is totally different between the sports because you can (or feel you can) get away with it in football compared to rugby. I also feel its harder to wrap your arms round the legs of a runner in football because of the shoulder pads.
In saying that, the league (as it was then) went to helmets in an attempt to reduce the number of head injuries being suffered by players - so not sure if it is really chicken and egg?
Agreed, some of the tackling in the NFL is terrible. I dont want to do away with big hits but some players really need to focus on basic wrap up tackling.
Interestingly rugby is now becoming more concerned with concussion. I would be interested to see statistics on concussion rates in rugby vs american football.
The wes welker hit was another cheap shot with the helmet used as a weapon.
Its only a matter of time before a player gets knocked out and doesn't wake up.
Side note: I've never understood the league's allowance of blocks/hits below the knees and I foresee a rule change coming. This will give another advantage to offensive players but I can understand the reasoning.
Anyhow, the defenseless player rule was expanded to cover defensive players and offensive players-turned-defensive players during a possession change (i.e. turnover). The rule was complained because offensive players were making blindside blocks while the defender's attention is focused on the player with the ball. Refs call some, don't call others (see the Golden Tate blindside launch on Sean Lee last season, clearly an illegal block by definition of many rules yet Dallas got a flag when Carter "pushed" Wilson out of bounds, and Tate pranced around like the jackass he is, though later fined for the illegal hit). The league also made it illegal for crack-back blocks, i.e. blindside blocks on the legs.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/15_2012_Player_Conduct.pdf
Article 7 Players in a Defenseless Posture. It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.
(a) Players in a defenseless posture are:
(8) A player who receives a “blindside” block when the blocker is moving toward or parallel to his own endline and approaches the opponent from behind or from the side
Legal Hit then in reality.
That no helmet thing is actually quite interesting. When, and why, did they introduce them?
Nice links.
You could argue that the move from leather to plastic was perhaps the moment when it went from something to protect against clashes of heads, to something that gave the wearer the feeling of relative invulnerability.
I always remember Roger Craig's running style - knees high, legs pumping. You saw some players take knees to the head that you would never see in rugby, because the tackler would make sure their head was not close to the knees of the player! But when you try and tackle someone low in football (when wearing pads and helmet), then I think the reduced flexibility etc afforded by the equipment (and the increased protection) means that you worry less about things like where your head is.
Haha - "you've got one job to do"
The Niners are looking solid - up 17-0 against the Bucs. Niners D is looking as good as usual, Kaepernick just had a 52 yard TD pass to Davis.
From another angle.
No sooner I say that, the Bucs go on a 80 yard drive and get a TD with less than a minute left in the half...17-7
Quiet day from the resident Pats fans... They're like Liverpool fans - flood the boards when winning, strangely absent when losing.
Loving the Eagles laying a classic choke job at Minnesota (the Vikings minus both AP and CG).
Loving the Eagles laying a classic choke job at Minnesota (the Vikings minus both AP and CG).
Beautiful Dolphins, even if you are still cnuts for last week, always good to see the Pats lose
Like a completely freaking different team without Gronk.
What the feck is Shanahan doing? Is he wanting to be fired immediately?And that fecking idiot Hernandez.
Ugh! Don't remind me!
What a loss he's been
St Louis defense is mauling New Orleans right now. Impressive stuff.
Romo is picking apart Green Bay's secondary and Murray is running wild at the moment. Big problem is the offense stalling deep in GB territory and settling for field goals.
Have you not noticed you get very little reaction to stuff like this.
Even from the people that comment during the game and get emotional.
And?
This Dallas defense is atrocious.