8 years! Glad to see this chelsea board seems too arrogant to admit they were stupid with those long deals.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
JLimgz is my idol.
Does anyone know what kind of contract it takes to get young players to sign such long contracts?
Are Chelsea committing to paying large wages (or wages that go up every year)? If not, why sign such long contracts..
Are Chelsea committing to paying large wages (or wages that go up every year)? If not, why sign such long contracts..
It's lifelong financial security for these guys - Chelsea are targeting young players who haven't signed a lucrative contract yet for the most part. All the long contracts we're signing players too are also heavily incentivised - so as the team does well wages will increase. Think that's noteworthy going forward - "CL financial windfalls" may be a lot less meaningful for Chelsea than other teams as a result.
Reportedly the main driver is that Chelsea's new hierarchy thinks it is a solution to the problem of signing players when it is most efficient (e.g. their early 20s) but then having those players be eligible to leave for discounts with as their contract wind down in conjunction with them entering their prime.
Well if we take Mudryk for example.
He signed an 8 year contract and is absolutely shite. Won't get them wages anywhere else, so he's set for life
So he can rinse the club for 8 years, and if they ever try to force him out of the club, they'd have to catch him first as thats his only attribute.
Who?
It's a ploy by the owners of Chelsea to make their fans do all sorts of mental contortions to justify it, which in turn takes their mind off finishing twelfth with no European football. Seems to be working.
Suspect they’ve bought him so they can sell him to us for profit.
Advanced trolling from Boehly.
WHAT ARE OUR SCOUTS DOING?
Advanced trolling from Boehly.
WHAT ARE OUR SCOUTS DOING?
Getting handcuffed by our shit owners?
What is there to justify about 8 year contracts?
What are you expectations from this season? No European football, but maybe that's a chance to freshen things up a bit.
Nothing but a few of your fellow fans are trying.
Not a huge miss for us in terms of looking at a no 9 but how come Chelsea are able to get a young striker for under 40m, yet we're quoted 60-70m for Holjund, who is similar in terms of experience. Honestly, our rank incompetence at transfers bites us again and again, teams know we overpay, hence we get rinsed for an extra 10-20m on every transfer.
Jackson had a release clause for €35M. Apparently we've now paid a couple million over the clause to negotiate a different payment schedule instead of triggering the clause in one go.
Højlund is two years younger and has already cost his current club a €17M fee just last year so obviously they're not going to let him go on the cheap.
Ok fair enough on the 17m fee bringing him in. However, even at 35m, Atalanta would double their money. So still doesn't explain the premium for similar type talent for United when trying to buy Hojlund. My impression, is that its the United tax that gets levied on every transfer. We don't help ourselves when we overpayed for Antony by 40-50m.
I would argue if we tried to buy Højlund, we would be quoted the same fee as you are. Just like we’re being told Caicedo is going to cost £100M and they fleeced us for Cucurella. You say United tax but both of our clubs are known for overpaying for players so they see us coming a mile off.
If Arsenal spend £65M on Havertz and over £100M on Rice, the next time they try to sign someone they’ll get quoted ridiculous fees too.
It depends on who Pochettino gets to be honest. If Pochettino can get Caceido, onana, along with lavia and garbi veiga/Kudus, expectations should be top 4. Anything less than that quality and depth option and europa league football. This is a chelsea squad that finished 12th last season and undergoing massive overhaul. It will be a miracle that they finish in a champion league place when you consider all those factors. The good thing though is that they don't have European football as you stated, so they could really adopt an intense high pressing, energetic display week in week out, which should give them some advantage in the league.
Pertaining the thread topic, found an interesting video on jackson:
Thanks, heard similar things from your fellow Chelsea fans as well.
That style of play reminds me of Danny Welbeck & Manucho.
ffs
He looks like a decent addition. Good ball control,burst of pace, good dribbler,decent passer,good link up play, making nice run through channels,pressing effectively, two footer. Weak aerial threat only negative I think.
Albeit YouTube highlights I like what I saw. He is vivell s recommendation. Could be a gem. Him and nkunku can create a good striker partnership. Both hard workers and very good pressers.
Hear that we've released Mozart on a free and he's joined the Chelsea Fan Club on an eight year contract.
It is hard to imagine that chelsea will put the weight of their season on this relative unknown. It is definitely different to what they use to do in the recent past. Typically, they would sign a striker like Oshimen, Muani or Vlahovic because they are more experienced However, Jackson has some amazing skill set that makes it appear that he can elevate chelsea to that next level. He ended the season really well at Villarreal, so it may not be a huge gamble as it seems.
Another young forward for Chelsea. What are they going to do with them all? And is there a recognised striker among them?
Sterling - RW
Fofana - CF
Jackson - CF
Madueke - loan?
Mudryk - LW
Nkunku - Forward
PEA - trade/sell/loan/terminate/release/anything
Broja - sell?
CHO - sell?
Lukaku - sell?
Pulisic - sell?
Ziyech - sell?
Edit: how could I forget Nkunku and PEA.
Sterling - RW
Fofana - CF
Jackson - CF
Madueke - loan?
Mudryk - LW
Nkunku - Forward
PEA - trade/sell/loan/terminate/release/anything
Broja - sell?
CHO - sell?
Lukaku - sell?
Pulisic - sell?
Ziyech - sell?
Edit: how could I forget Nkunku and PEA.
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Fofana will go on loan, Broja will probably stay, and everyone in your sell category will definitely be gone.
Madueke will be an important player for us. He’s going nowhere.
Fofana is being loaned. At the moment there are 4 European clubs offering loan deals. Borja and Jackson stay as strikers. Sterling, Madueke, and Mudryk stay as Wingers. The rest sold or loan with obligation to buy. Lukaku and Pulisic deals being worked right now. Ziyech is sold. CHO will be sold, he is deciding what offer to get pursue.
Yep, if anything we're going to be left a bit short in the attacking areas once all the proposed deals go through for outgoings (Auba, Lukaku, Ziyech, Pulisic, CHO + D. Fofana loan)
Jackson, Broja, Nkunku, Sterling, Mudryk and Madueke makes it just 6 players for 4 places in the team if we assume a 4-2-3-1 formation. Ideally we'd need two more but for a season with no European football on the calendar maybe one more would do the trick. Anything less than 7 players for 4 positions is asking for trouble, especially as one of them is Broja who's only just returning from a 7 month knee injury in time for the next season starting and Madueke had a pretty nasty history with injuries at PSV too.
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So us overpaying for Mount had not only funded Caceido, but now Jackson too ;-p
Always been a huge fan of this guy, whoever the feck he is.
The top 3 teams funded us to become top 3 team. No fault in that statement.
Apparently Chelsea is extremely good at selling players.
Giving a player an 8 year contract off the back of a 2 month purple patch is impressively mental, even for the only club worse than us for doling out cushy deals.
It's an FFP thing, no? Like they did with Mudryk
Could argue that Arsenal helped them aswell by signing Havertz.
I thought the rules around amortization were changed so that they could only count it for a max of 5 years even if the contract was longer?
Apparently it starts from July 1, so today was the last day a contract like that could be given and amortised over the length of 8 years.
Is it likely he’ll be a starter #9 for Chelsea?
Just thinking ahead for Fantasy Football.
Just thinking ahead for Fantasy Football.
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I am starting to think that Jackson may be their main number 9 next season. Chelsea may have gotten a world class talent at the right time before he blows up. Still hard to grasp, unless chelsea objective next season isn’t challenging for title.
I am not sure yet if he will be their starter, but I won’t be surprised if that becomes the case.
Well he will do really well playing alongside Lukaku pointing and showing his frustrations every time a pass does not arrive.