No not really blaming Haaland - but what happened to the team?
Nordic Ghost Yeti | Haaland at City
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Sheesh I had this lad to score around 20 league goals but the way he’s going..
The realistic worry here is Haaland could be the missing piece that not only wins City the CL but makes them very dominant
Dominant to the extent that even if we came good under Ten Hag it won`t be enough to topple them
He's quick, he's fast, and he's got pace.
But does he have the speed?
Yep this is indeed true. OGS, the then Molde manager, tips the club about someone they must sign. Its legitimately one of the worst examples of bad club management when viewed in hindsight.
Of course Haaland was tearing up the Norwegian league as well at the ripe old age of 16, which is why Manchester was told "hey, maby sign this guy"
Damn, that is amateurish stuff even for division 2 club. This is absolutely laughable.
Completely agree. The PL is a bastard for negativity against top clubs. Which is a good thing.
Sevilla, a very good team, looked like it was men vs fans from the stand. Yesterdays game is one of the most lopsided matches Ive seen in recent times between two title winning teams.
They're predictable with Haaland, they were predictable without him. Neither version is easy to stop.
I'm hopeful they can be stopped in the CL, but for me the league is there's. They'll drop points obviously, but no one currently will be able to keep up with them.
I'm hopeful they can be stopped in the CL, but for me the league is there's. They'll drop points obviously, but no one currently will be able to keep up with them.
I hope he gets stuck in traffic
Sevilla aren't title winners?
And Barcelona and Real Madrid would usually play them off the park. City are probably the best team in the world despite not having won a CL.
I don't think he will ever leave city. It is just too easy to get goals. Look at the numbers a decent winger like sterling put up being the focal point. Haaland will have records in sight and he has the easiest job in football history in breaking them
Europa League winners 2020 counts as a title in my books. And yeah, you would expect them to win, but at least Sevilla could have looked like they were professional footballers for a bit.
Frankfurt won in 2022, Sevilla did so the season before
Is your book fiction? They last won it in 2020!
Yeah I know, I edited my typoFrankfurt won in 2022, Sevilla did so the season before
Thanks for correcting me though!He's obviously and extremely good CF, and has certainly hit the ground running for City, but honestly, what is it with many football fans and their constant need for hyperbole? Apparently, it's already clear he will destroy Messi and CR all-time numbers in a couple of seasons, he's going to score 175 PL goals this season alone, teams are going to start forfeiting the City matches out of sheer fear, and so on. I mean, come on, he's at a fantastic level at the moment, and has been excellent for some time now, but so, so many things could happen with such a young player. He may very well end up even exceeding expectations, but it's a bit cringeworthy reading certain posts, that's all.
I speak for myself when I say that I'm not basing my assumptions on just one game, or even one team.
That’s because Haaland scores virtually every game. Rashford doesn’t.
25 goals in 20 champions league games for Haaland is ridiculous.
People, myself inclued, tend to get a bit carried away when new young players break through the pace set by the other greats before them. Haaland now has the best Goalaverage in the CL history, is way ahead of the all time greats at the same age in terms of goals scored, and is physically completely unlike anyone else before him in terms of skillset. Sure there are a lot of players with better technique and dribbling, but in terms of pure goalscoring, no one comes close except for "Old man" Lewandowski who is still the best.
Sure its a bit early to assume career stats are going to be shattered, but its fun to postulate.
Anyone else as apathetic towards City as usual and just intrigued to see what he can do?
Those are just cumulative totals. Haaland will probably top 4 Golden Boots and 5 domestic top scorer awards (Ronaldo's marks). It'll be much harder to reach 6 European Golden boots and 8 domestic top scorer awards by Messi.
He also has a good chance of getting 70 goals in a calender year (do not see him topping 91 goals in a year) to establish the 2nd highest goal-scoring peak in the modern era, behind Messi.
He's going to win the Premier League golden boot this season by a canter (and probably shatter the record for most goals in a season). Beyond that, getting 4 more isn't exactly unattainable for a player of that caliber. He'll also retire with the highest goalscoring ratio of the 21st century (going into this season, he was trailing Messi by only a fraction, and was ahead of Lewandowski at 3rd place, and Ronaldo at 4th place).
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Yeah, you're right, it's probably just harmless fun, but it irks me a bit, as I see it as a byproduct of the hyperbolic and puerile society we are creating.
Obviously.
One of the strangest players I can remember. At City he's just going to be bagging bucketloads seemingly with no effort at all. Mbappe is more exciting to watch but in this City team Haaland could hit peak Messi numbers for goals.
Haaland is now at the same age Ronaldo was after the 06/07 season for us.
If you only look at their numbers up to the age Haaland is now, I guess you could say Ronaldo was "something entirely different altogether":
Haaland all clubs in all comps:
147 goals and 37 assists in 12598 minutes
1,05 goals/90
1,31 goals+assists/90
Ronaldo all clubs in all comps:
55 goals and 45 assists in 15228 minutes
0,33 goals/90
0,59 goals+assists/90
Haaland in the CL:
25 goals and 3 assists in 1533 minutes
1,47 goals/90
1,65 goals+assists/90
Ronaldo in the CL:
3 goals and 5 assists in 2250 minutes
0,12 goals/90
0,32 goals+assists/90
Haaland for Norway:
20 goals and 3 assists in 1665 minutes
1,08 goals/90
1,24 goals+assists/90
Ronaldo for Portugal:
17 goals and 13 assists in 3213 minutes
0,48 goals/90
0,84 goals+assists/90
He was a winger while Haaland is a #9, but come on! Haaland is so far ahead of 22 year old Ronaldo that it's hard to compare them.
It's yet to be seen if Haaland can match Ronaldo's goals, trophies and ballon d'ors in the end, but I wouldn't bet against it.
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Yip, feels like I'm watching a different sport.
Gerd Müller and R9 had pretty great numbers at 22 as well. Of course it's a compliment to him that he gets compared to them. He's the perfect poacher.
Ahead in terms of goals yes especially because Ronaldo was a winger. Ronaldo began to focus more on goals very late in his career because if he has started earlier I can only imagine where he would be at now.
However Haaland is just that…goals Ronaldo at 22 was a much better player then Haaland. He had it all, Speed , skill, passing, crossing, Freekicks, and has just began scoring regularly.
Now in terms of just goals Haaland is way ahead of Ronaldo at 22. But as a player he ranks way behind.
Let’s put it this way, Ronaldo is a consensus top 4 all time player. One of the 4 GOATS of the game along with Messi, Maradona, and pele. (The Mount Rushmore of the Sport of football).
Can you confidently say Haaland will be a top 15 player of all time ? Let alone a top 5? Chances are slim.
Haaland will be gerd muller which is no slouch. He will be one of the greatest goal scorers the game has ever seen barring any major injury.
Dunno how you can compare a complete goal poacher to a winger. It's a 11 vs 11 game. A traditional winger will obviously score less than a poacher and target man.
The so called title "best team in the world" is overrated.
Teams don't care about it, if the team don't win trophies.
I don't think City is the best team in the world, they are one of the best, but not the best...If they keep bottling it in the UCL season after season, you can't call them best team in the world.
Missing sitters in important matches don't make you the best team.
I hope the keep bottling the UCL with Ederson bloopers and their typical defensive brainfarts, same goes for PSG...clubs owned by an entire country should be illegal in Football.
Hardly very late. When he found out, he could be prolific, both he and SAF made sure the team was built around Ronaldo's goalscoring ability. 22/23 isnt very late.
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It's all very subjective to a point at least.
The comparisons to Ronaldo are amusing. Halaand comes across as the ultimate poacher however while Ronaldo became largely about goals as his career grew, for much of it, he was a tremendous footballer and on a completely different level of ability altogether.
Ronaldo was hugely influential on football matches at that age.
There's your first mistake. It's not all about G / A. Ronaldo was 23 or 23 when he had that 40 plus goal season for us winning the double. He was a complete footballer at the time and not merely a goalscorer. In fact from 18 to 21 he was fairly pure winger.
i think the most impressive thing about him is how he can simultaneously be the missing piece and the missing link.
I really never at any point disputed that he wasn't. I disputed that it was only very late in his career that he became focused on scoring goals.
Late in the sense it was 6 years into his career.
A bit like Henry
I don't think Ronaldo gets anywhere near any GOAT conversation without his goals and high goalratio. He was the focal point in one of the best teams in the history of the game, and his goals and trophies are literally the only things that brings him into any GOAT discussion at all. It isn't his stepovers, passing or crossing.
We've never in the history of European football seen anyone at Haalands age scoring at the rate he is scoring now at the top level and he has some extreme and unique qualities the world hasn't seen on a football pitch before at all. And yet he looks so far from the finished article. The combination is mindblowing. Hence why this thread has 85 pages 4 weeks into the season, Haaland is trending on youtube, on social media and the majority of pundits are jizzing all over him these days.
Scoring goals is the hardest and most important thing to do on a football pitch, and Haaland seems determined to break every record and become the best ever at it.
At the rate he is scoring now he will have a shot at Messi's 92 goals for club and country in a year and will easily score 50 a season even with injuries.
In Messi's 11/12 and 12/13 season when he scored 118 goals in LaLiga (50 and 46 goals) and the CL alone, he scored a goal every 65 minutes he was on the pitch. Haaland so far this season has scored every 46 minutes he's been on the pitch. It's hard to wrap your head around how insane that actually is.
To put that into perspective: C. Ronaldo scored a goal every 99 minutes in his Golden shoe, Ballon d'or, CL and PL winning season with us....
...or: Michael Owen winning the Ballon d'or off the back of a season where Liverpool won the FA, Carabao (didn't play the final) and UEFA cup where he wasn't even topscorer in the PL (scoring 24 goals across all comps).
If he ends up breaking most of the standing goalscoring records and win a shitload of trophies along the way, he will obviously end up somewhere near the top on every GOAT list.
He's is only 22 and there is no guarantees in football, so lets see how it pans out.
I think both Haaland and Mbappe can get into the top 5 GOAT list if they avoid injuries or for some reason suddenly loses it.