Bojan11
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He's not a elite manager? 
I take it Rafa is then.

I take it Rafa is then.
Are they ever going to realise that they aren't the only team in this league?Expected. You don't go trophyless at Madrid and survive.
He's got 3 league titles in 20 years.
But his league record is quite poor.What does that even mean? Who else qualifies as "the elite manager" then?! He's won 3 CL titles, only the 2nd manager ever to do so. And let's be honest, you can't even compare how difficult it is to achieve to those days.
He's not a elite manager?
I take it Rafa is then.
He's got 3 league titles in 20 years.
So has Wenger.
Take it he's not elite too.
They're different type of managers, one has stayed with a single club for ages, the other has travelled to different clubs, worked with different boards and played in different leagues. Both situations have their challenges, but I'd find it bizarre that anyone could argue that Ancelotti is not an 'elite' manager. He's one of the very best out there.So has Wenger.
Take it he's not elite too.
No. He's managed Arsenal.Has Wenger managed the top club for most of those 20 years?
No. No, he hasn't.
Wenger has about as many titles in as many years or more, without those European honors. I'm sure he'd be considered among the elites by most people if not all. Not even Fergie was able to manage as many European cups. In this day and age, you can't expect managers to win both the league and the cups too many times.He's got 3 league titles in 20 years.
AC Milan remain the only club that Ancelotti has managed for more than 2 seasons.
Bayern have their replacement for Pep now after Carlo takes a year to learn German.
No. He's managed Arsenal.
Has Wenger managed the top club for most of those 20 years?
No. No, he hasn't.
That's alright. My pleasure.Thanks for clearing that up.
Its poor i'll give you that, but when you think he's been up against some good teams its not as bad as it appears.Ancelotti's underwhelming league record is definitely something to take into consideration, but he's certainly one of the elite managers in the game today.
Few managers go totally unscathed throughout their career's.
Wenger has about as many titles in as many years or more, without those European honors. I'm sure he'd be considered among the elites by most people if not all. Not even Fergie was able to manage as many European cups. In this day and age, you can't expect managers to win both the league and the cups too many times.
Deja vu.
Its insane how fickle clubs have become nowadays.
If Rafa goes to Real Madrid, I give it 3 months before Ronaldo and Bale start moaning or eyeing up their next venture. Joke.
But seriously, all Real want are yes men.
If Rafa goes to Real Madrid, I give it 3 months before Ronaldo and Bale start moaning or eyeing up their next venture. Joke.
But seriously, all Real want are yes men.
With top class clubs too. Pretty poor.
His European record is great though, best cup manager around probably.
Circus
So you don't think he's an elite manager?A single Scudetto in 8 years with that team is not enough, IMO.