Long may it stay dead.
You're not going to find brands who have the current budget to pay 10M to 20M upfront to Messi and the club when their Q3 2021 budget was established last year. Then you have to initiate all your activation and commercial budget within weeks....during an Olympic year?
Genuinely what do you want for Utd? You seem the most pro oil club, city fan, Chelsea fan on this board?Long may it stay dead.
As long as football refuses to create sensible restrictions that truly create a level playing ground, I hope it becomes a battle of oligarchs vs oil states vs blue stock billionaires. Just waiting for the CL to be awarded to the likes of the Glazers and Roman first
feck all that. This isn't some sort of royalty.
One of many backwards and frankly idiotic posts by yourself.Long may it stay dead.
As long as football refuses to create sensible restrictions that truly create a level playing ground, I hope it becomes a battle of oligarchs vs oil states vs blue stock billionaires. Just waiting for the CL to be awarded to the likes of the Glazers and Roman first
Barca. Mas que un ànima.
I want United to win in a sport where success isn't determined on how much money you have. Whether or not that money is "earned" or not, I don't give a shit.
Wouldn't you say right now it is determined on the amount of money?
Hey look, this guy's back.
It has always been determined on the amount of money, that's why the most successful clubs are in large cities and/or have benefitted from financial support at some point in their history which gave them an edge. For some it's a sugar daddy, others it's a big city with almost no other source of entertainment, for others someone financed the stadium or paid their debt...
Yeah right, as if 10 to 20M was a insane amount for some of our sponsore like EA sports (6 billions in revenues), Orange (50 billions), Mc Donalds (20 billions) etc.
That's not how budgets work, but okay.
But United have consistently been spending for decades now, just that the past 7 years has seen it spent pretty poorly before Ole.
You still showed 0 proof of that. PSG's sponsorship deals are known, Qatar companies are negligeable for a couple of years now. But yeah, keep on acting like you know better.
Neymar wasn't at that level when they bought him. And the partnership was broken in 2 years - by money.
Competing against PSG or City in 2021 is no different to competing against Milan, Inter or the Lazio in the 90s. I keep saying it in every thread that start this idea but Football hasn't changed, Football is historically not a business and sugar daddies have been the norm. It's only the recent trend of turning into a business which I suspect is narrative pushed by certain owners with some of being involved in the ESL.
Follow the investment trail i just showed you....it starts with the Qatar Investment Fund. I cannot believe you're this deluded.
Your probably right but this feels different. More pronounced maybe.
I do know better, especially when it comes to sponsorship contacts as I've directly been involved with deals for the biggest clubs in the world.
It is, isn't it. Individual owner vs state backed clubs.
It's not. It's significantly less pronounced, have a look at how many world records Milan beat in the late 80s early 90s. Inter were spending 100s of millions in a single window in the late 90s and that's without even taking into account the gap in terms of wages.
Yeah you're right but then again with oil clubs backed by states it went whole other lever. Too much dodgy business although you could say dodgy business has always been involved.
Listen, you obviously know nothing about PSG and the sponsorship deals they have, why are you trying to pretend that you do? PSG was slapped (and rightfully so) by UEFA for our huge QTA contract, we had to find another main sponsor (it is now Accor). PSG now has minor deals with companies from Qatar and it was reported that they amounted to roughly 30M in 2020.
Effectively it's not different because there is a limited amount of players that you can actually purchase due to the fact that team sizes are limited and that top player choose clubs where they can play. Maybe we can reevaluate the situation if these clubs purchase top players just for the sake of signing them and just put them in the stands. Until then we are in the very familiar situation where a particularly wealthy club has a very good and expensive team like about a dozen of other clubs.
United is a massively bigger club, with three, four times the fanbase of PSG that was a niche club in Europe before being bought by Qatar. United's wealth and growth is natural and organic. PSG's comes from massively overinflated sponsorship deals being orchestrated from Qatar. It's obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
We are not close to Serie A sugar daddying in the 90s, that was something else.
PSG's deals are overvalued, you just said it yourself. And the industry knows that too. Your brands, outside of a couple, aren't paying the same fees you see in the PL. The PL is the most financially viable football league in the world, period.
What deal is overvalued? It was the case 5 years ago with the QTA contract but this deal was replaced by Accor.
Yes. And I don't like it. I don't want money to be a factor at all.
TBF, your owner is chums with people who'll 'pay a visit' to the owners of Syriana FC if they don't manage to scrounge together 40m for a package of academy graduates.
That is a nice fantasy. I like the millions in a paper bag under the seat better. Much more visual.
A million in hundreds (USD) just about fits into a paper bag that could fit under a seat.
Messi today isn't at the level he was back in 2014.
What about additional first touch training? Got to be a good 100k/week.
