Thanks for posting that. More of it, their monopolizing football.
Oil Money in Football | New City expose
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Spiegel released their article about it:
http://www.spiegel.de/international...xploiting-young-african-talent-a-1237618.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international...xploiting-young-african-talent-a-1237618.html
Oh but they will get away with it. They already have done. No one is brave enough to challenge them. Governing bodies or managers.
I'm not worried about City in the long term because someone will trump them. We thought Chelsea wouldn't wobble under Abramovich and they did. The environment in English football is far more competitive than Germany or France.
I already know about this story from a German TV magazine of last week.
For the posters here that speak German: https://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/ar...rikas-Fussball-Talenten,footballleaks186.html
Surely it's a challenge to go to a top team and win the lot? To some extent he failed at Bayern, not winning a European Cup. City it remains to be seen.
He is a top manager but Lineker's comments about English football being 'grateful' for having him is vomit inducing. Especially when you consider someone like Wenger came in, spent a fraction of what Pep has and got his double team to play football far more imaginative and fluid than anything we see now.
So in that respect should Ronaldo sign for real Betis instead of Madrid, Messi go back to Burnley to prove they are one of the best of their generation, Guarduola has proven himself to be one of the best managers of his generation, if you can't see that then frankly you're mad.
British journalists are mostly corrupt scumbags, hopefully, they have unpleasant dreams at night as they’re taking money covered in blood.
Excellent posts, gentlemen, thank you. Several other excellent posts on this thread too.
Truly sickening. I've always had zero respect for City and been called bitter. But they are a rotten club so I just don't respect them.
It would be better for football if Liverpool won the league. Despite the insufferableness of it all.
Oliver Kay and Oliver Holt are sycophantic morally questionable cretins.
And they are shite journalists.
Basically sports journos named Oliver are bad.
And they are shite journalists.
Basically sports journos named Oliver are bad.
That’s not my logic that’s your own fans logic I’m just highlighting the ludicrous nature of it in my post, glad to see you have picked up on it. You have to be consistent with your outrage and people are not so thank you for picking up on the ridiculousness it is makes it much easier to debate.
And as I have said in a previous post couldn’t care less about the origins of the sponsorship payments. FFP is a myth that people of successful, or previously successful, clubs have picked up on to justify keeping the established order. We found a way around it to stay competitive and uefa never acted further because they knew that if challenged the law could not be upheld in court. Your anger should not be directed at city but at the people who brought in FFP as these “allegations” are perfectly legal under uefa law. If city were rubbish and getting these payments fans would think it hilarious. It’s only because City are brilliant at the moment that united fans are unhappy with it.
He's a very good manager in the right situation. Nobody knows what he's like when he doesn't have everything laid on a plate for him. He will probably succeed, but we don't know
Also, how amazing was Messi when he played for Burnley though? Can't wait for him to go back!!
Thanks, that's the one.
I work out in the UAE and there are high level eyebrows getting raised here about where the Abu Dhabi silver is being spent. Etihad would be bankrupt anywhere else in the world; they're getting a brand new airport terminal which is years behind and is an absolute shambles and a total financial basket case and their financial vehicles - Aabar and Mubadala cant even pay office salaries let alone fund the infrastructure projects they were initially set up for.
Kaldoon may have a little less to spend in future.
Kaldoon may have a little less to spend in future.
Haven't Etihad not posted a profit in about 15 years? Sure I read that somewhere recently.
The only thing that can be admired about City is the way they play the game and their coach. Everything else quite frankly is an absolute disgrace. Some of these allegations, which most people have suspected long before, are basically admitting the game is bent beyond belief.
The stuff about Mancini, Etihad deal being topped up significantly among others, Infantino having secret meetings with City n PSG. The whole thing is a joke really.
I do like Pep and most of their players even as a die hard red. But it's all been achieved on lies, oil and bribes sadly.
The only thing that can be admired about City is the way they play the game and their coach. Everything else quite frankly is an absolute disgrace. Some of these allegations, which most people have suspected long before, are basically admitting the game is bent beyond belief.
The stuff about Mancini, Etihad deal being topped up significantly among others, Infantino having secret meetings with City n PSG. The whole thing is a joke really.
I do like Pep and most of their players even as a die hard red. But it's all been achieved on lies, oil and bribes sadly.
It's worth repeating that they are not the only ones having secret meetings. When you read the leaks it's quite clear that the main culprit is the UEFA, they are conniving with every wealthy clubs whether it is the "Petro Clubs" or the "Aristocrats". As football fans we should at least recognize that and realize that it's the mid and small size clubs that are getting fleeced by the organization supposed to take care of all European clubs.
Theyre haemoraging money on top of buying failures like Alitalia and Air Berlin. Thinking here is that they will merge with Emirates.
Before Qatar, I think PSG fans just did want the team to be competitive and able to qualify for the Champions League from time to time whatever the competitive landscape.
As far as I'm concerned, I have mixed feelings: very great to see the best players in Paris but extremely boring not to have strong local challengers in the long run. The balance is positive because now a French club is now capable to challenge other great clubs in the long run.I would welcome Marseille acquired by the UAE to make the league more enticing.
In terms of ethics, which business or sector of our society is not corrupt? Are clubs and players based in Liverpool, Lyon, Arsenal, Dortmund, AS Roma...poor and necessarily more deserving?
What about small cities which can't compete with rich and big ones? I would even say the football industry is more open and healthy than any other industries in which big companies destroy or acquire small ones. Rich clubs are required to overpay and inject more money in the circus as the small clubs are smarter than in the past.
Obvious
Given the money clubs make re TV deals, they'll still spend big in the context of football.
What tosh.
If FFP is so bad then City should have challenged the rules. Not signed up to them and cheated multiple ways to cook the books. From player wages, to dodgy inflated sponsorships to manager wages.
Your argument about FFP is so ridiculous its hardly worth a response.
They are a bunch of cheats and I wish they continued with Pellegrini or hired another manager of that ilk. I remember never seeing them as a threat to football all this while despite having loads and loads of money I always had that sense that they would waste it on the likes of Bony, Mangala, Dzeko, Jovetic, Negredo, Jesus Navas, etc.
I recall that even after they had spent millions upon millions, their best players still remained their old gaurd namely Aguero, Silva, Kompany and Yaya. Only KDB was the new performing player highlighting their utter wastefulness. They did hit the jackpot by employing Pep whose signings have been mostly spot on and has also taken some of the underperfomers to a new level.
On sunday I was raged by the gulf in class in both teams that I just walked away at 3:1.
Who will bring us back to the glory days?
I recall that even after they had spent millions upon millions, their best players still remained their old gaurd namely Aguero, Silva, Kompany and Yaya. Only KDB was the new performing player highlighting their utter wastefulness. They did hit the jackpot by employing Pep whose signings have been mostly spot on and has also taken some of the underperfomers to a new level.
On sunday I was raged by the gulf in class in both teams that I just walked away at 3:1.
Who will bring us back to the glory days?
Absolute shite of the lowest grade.
City found a way to circumvent FFP regulations in order to blow their competition aside, not to remain competitive. They cheated the rules so they could gain an unfair advantage on those that would challenge them. Had City stayed within the guidelines set by FFP regulations and spent only what they made in revenue, they wouldn't have anything like the team of superstars they have right now. For you to suggest otherwise is a blatant lie.
And Pep would have had zero interest in the job either.
To be fair Pellegrini coached City amid the faux-FFP ‘compliance’ - Pep added the likes of Stones and Sane to the same squad and only finished 3rd. Had Mancini or Pellegrini been able to spend the £500m Pep has had on top of the squads they coached to the title, they’d have similarly monopolised too; their squad players were Adam Johnson, Scott Sinclair, Navas, Javi Garcia etc, not fecking Gundogan, Bernardo, Mahrez and Otamendi.
Their owners are most concerned about their image. I'd love to see enormous banners highlighting their human rights record when they come to OT.
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I'll get a sex change and rename myself FujitaVice if they get any major punishment. The game is corrupt and if you can afford a giant brush, you can sweep anything under the carpet. City play great football, but they're a fecking joke club.
Uefa's competitions are basically by invitation, you gain an invitation by winning trophies or league finishes etc. Uefa can make whatever rules they want as they did FFP that teams must abide by to gain entry. If a team fails to meet the requirements for entry to European competition either by low league position or not adhering to financial regulations then they won't have much cause for complaint. The rules are known and every team has to abide by them (or should have to) or not be invited, a team could no more sue Uefa for not being invited to the Champions League for failing FFP than they could sue Uefa for not getting invited for finishing 6th.
I seriously doubt Uefa have allowed City to flout FFP because they are afraid of a legal challenge. They've let them do what they want because there are probably loads of UEFA big wigs getting massive bribes. UEFA are as corrupt as FIFA were/are.
Interesting read:
“The scale and scope of the City Football Group operation worldwide dwarf any competitors. It allows the City Football Group to spread overhead across more entities but it is also possible to move expenses around in a more arbitrary manner to alleviate any licensing, Financial Fair Play and/or cost control regulations.
A closer examination of the City Football Group and Manchester City’s financial statements for 2016/17 leaves us wondering how expenses have been shared across the family of accounts and whether or not Manchester City is being “subsidized” by other teams.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbym...k-city-fc-and-melbourne-city-fc/#65532a1830a4
“The scale and scope of the City Football Group operation worldwide dwarf any competitors. It allows the City Football Group to spread overhead across more entities but it is also possible to move expenses around in a more arbitrary manner to alleviate any licensing, Financial Fair Play and/or cost control regulations.
A closer examination of the City Football Group and Manchester City’s financial statements for 2016/17 leaves us wondering how expenses have been shared across the family of accounts and whether or not Manchester City is being “subsidized” by other teams.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbym...k-city-fc-and-melbourne-city-fc/#65532a1830a4
Martin Samuel is on the City offshore payroll. Seldom has one man's head been seen so far up a club's arse.
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"We are acknowledging that how we are handling this project is telling a lot to the world about how we are,". "The UAE is different from other Arab countries. People think the Arab world is one, but it is not. This is showing the world the true essence of who Abu Dhabi is and what Abu Dhabi is about. That is something new, something we didn't really plan for."
Khaldoon Al-Mubarak 2009
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/sep/18/manchester-city-abu-dhabi-mubarak
City are you nothing more than a propaganda machine for a corrupt and brutal regime.
Guarantee Sky and BT would not broadcast it.
It's embarrassing how City fans are happy to overlook this sort of stuff.
I'd be finished with United if the Saudis took over.
Real enemies?
He’s got to be on the payroll!
City have made the Premier league a laughing stock!
They are like The Harlem Globetrotters!
That cnut Sterling thought he was in The Harlem Globetrotters at the end of the derby!
Knob.
They’ve had their current owners for a decade now and it’s only the last two years where they’ve looked much better than everybody else. Chelsea looked unstoppable back in 2004-2006 but they were caught, same will happen to City.
What are they going to do? Fine them again?
Until there is a restriction that hits City where it hurts, UEFA and FFP will continue to be a joke.
Ok, genuine question here on legalities and technicalities. If UEFA found irregularities and banned them from European competition for say 5 years ( not holding my breath), would the FA be obliged to act, even though no Premiership rules have been broken, but they are still representatives of English football in European competition?
Definitely, he even encourages more new money. Does the fool not realise you would be swapping one so called elite for an even more greedy and immoral new one?
Living in Dubai and working in Abu Dhabi the whole Citeh thing is piss funny.
Judgement Day came for me when I was watching the Saturday game(s) in my local bar and when asked why he supported Citeh an Egyptian guy responded "I used to support Chelsea but Man City - they are an Arab club now...." I, and a few other reds just turned and pissed ourselves laughing "you'll do for me son" was the general theme of the replies.
In short, even the most ardent blue knows deep down that as a club they have become a parody of everything City stood for, good or bad and they really are nothing more than an oil sheiks penis extension. The fall from grace is going to be biblical. I'm going to ride out our current bad times, grab some popcorn and wait for that day.
Judgement Day came for me when I was watching the Saturday game(s) in my local bar and when asked why he supported Citeh an Egyptian guy responded "I used to support Chelsea but Man City - they are an Arab club now...." I, and a few other reds just turned and pissed ourselves laughing "you'll do for me son" was the general theme of the replies.
In short, even the most ardent blue knows deep down that as a club they have become a parody of everything City stood for, good or bad and they really are nothing more than an oil sheiks penis extension. The fall from grace is going to be biblical. I'm going to ride out our current bad times, grab some popcorn and wait for that day.
If and when City are punished as they should be, it will be the funniest thing ever.
Will shut the hypocritical idiots up forever.
Will shut the hypocritical idiots up forever.
They will never shut up, will just start whining about how they were stitched up by UEFA/Aristos/Insert name here.
Poor poor hard done by whingers.