We quite clearly are one of the worst footballing sides in the league. We're a midtable side currently fighting off the likes of Wolves, Everton etc. yet in terms of resources, we're levels away from them. I said this last season as well, we're absolutely pathetic at this football malarkey.
The effect of Match of the day highlights and youtube compilations. They see these teams creating one chance/goal and believe they play like that for 90 minutes every game. I must be watching a different sport when i watch these teams actually play compared to how they are lauded on here.
Surprised me too. I think the guy is just on here for the WUM now
Why do you have to lie?
I don’t need mentioning them. They are class above everyone this year.
No problem with saying that. That means that you like football performed by teams like Brighton, Bornmouth, Norwich, West Ham and more...
It seems that way. The only answer I’ve got is that those people hate Solskjaer that much that they would say pretty much everything to discredit team and manager.
We know that you are one of those dissliking Solskjaer. Can’t other teams be good or does it always have to be us that are bad? Don’t discredit Everton and Wolves. They are good teams and there is no shame fighting them for CL places. We are in the same position as Tottenham and Chelsea. Fighting for top 4.
I doubt many people on here actually watch any more football than the average fan. I certainly dont, but I've seen enough of the PL to know that there are only two teams that play outstanding football with any consistency.
One would be inclined to think that is the case. Also, if you watch United's goals this season, not the games, I understand why some believe United only plays counter attacking. Most goals are scored on counters.
It's fair to say that, although if those goals were scored by other flavour of the month teams (managers) they would be seen as a sign those teams play great football.
Without my United bias. Never heard the phrase watching as a neutral?
You can turn your Utd bias on and off at will? That's an impressive skill.
Equalling Burnley and United clearly shows your bias, though.
Yeah like when you banter with your friends and say crazy shite that you know aren’t true but you have to back your team. That bias.
Yeah
What bias?
You should probably educate yourself on bias.
Most of the usual top 4 candidates are shit this year as welll. Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea. Us. It unsual to get top 4 with so little points.
Our squad isnt shit, or mid table. Far from it. What it is is an incomplete squad that has suffered some key injuries where we couldnt afford to, that has led to us having to play a large % of our fixtures with one or more of Lingard, Pereira and Mata and these players have all had very poor seasons so far. Its cost us a lot of points.
All fair enough. Like you said bud, matter of opinion. I’ve been Ole out for a while as I don’t think he’s the guy that’s going to take us back to competing but I also agree that he’s done a lot of positive things during his tenure. I’ve always maintained, top 4 should be his goal. If he’s able to achieve it, I wouldn’t be against him getting some more time - albeit I’d still like to see a lot more improvement on the playing field. If not, he should go. Same rules as has applied to the rest, imo.
Agreed with that. Outside of Leicester (& obviously Pool and city) who’s looked fairly good, the rest are all a bit “meh” & inconsistent. In any other year, we’d probably be well of the pace & contention for top 4 with our points tally.
This
I agree with you things are flexible and change over time. If Ole gets top four and there continue to be signs that we have a way of playing that involves movement between the lines, then i can accept it if he gets more time.
Long ball? Really?
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Well said. People on one hand say how shit Lingard, Pereira are and on the other rare on Ole for not being able to beat the low block when teams sit back against us. Do they not see the connection. Right now we lack any real creativity. Our most creative player Pogba hasn't played all season. We just brought in Bruno. We haven't had the players available all season to break these teams down. Give it time and these players, whether it be Bruno & Pogba, Grealish or whoever and chances are a lot of those dodgy results turn to wins.
I think when you consider the games we've lost (weaker opposition), when you consider the points tally for the top 10 this season (in any other competitive season we would have been way further down the table), when you consider how poor our rivals have been the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham this is easily the best season that any United manager post SAF would have had to attain a position in top four. When you factor in the extra champions league spot if City can't uplift their ban, then how Solskjaer can stay this season without finishing in the top 5 is a formality.
Again for the nth time, the point of the post was to highlight that you can play attacking attractive football without having to have a team full world-class players, not that we should aim to get relegated or play in the championship. We should also try to play attractive football like the teams mentioned. Its you who made the connection with their relegation position when the post was talking about the style of play. By that it looks like you are implying that if we try to play an attractive style of play like Norwich, we'd also find ourselves in the same league position as them. The discussion came up because of the constant excuses that we have a lot of poor players so we see such crappy football, while the likes of Norwich with even worst squads manage to play some semblance of nice football. Their league position is irrelevant to the discussion as its mostly due to lack of quality which is not as big a problem for us (to fear relegation). I hope the point is clear.
Yeah, I agree. The accountability should ultimately rest with the manager.
I gave up on replying to this topic. The point will never be clear to them
Difference is we play out from the back like a btec LVG side whilst City play passes in the opposition’s half. Watch us tomorrow tell me how many attacks we generate with a direct ball being pumped forward. So when I say long ball that’s exactly what I mean. There’s no gile in front of goal. But keep looking at the stats instead of using your eyes.
It’s clear as day what he is saying though.
Manchester United right now are a one dimensional counter attacking team, which relies on individual brilliance/luck in games it's ineffective, which is basically most games that aren't against the top 6. That's exactly what I'd expect us to be under Ole and I expect nothing else because the guy has been managing for a decade and expecting him to transform into Pep/Klopp overnight is bat shit crazy. This is why it's lunacy to pass up opportunities to sign some of the best managers in the game to stick with this guy, but I'm sure we're stupid enough to.
I don't know why I'm doing it mate. Probably will stop if I get the same reply.
But what attacking attractive football do you mean? Norwich? Lets see those brilliant attacking football by Norwich that you love to mention.
You gave up because you are wrong and darkness of hate is covering averything that is not in the "lets hate Solskjaer"-box.
The fact that you are comparing stats from teams with so much gulf in quality shows you are either deluded or just trolling. They just got promoted from Championship last year and their entire squad would not cost as much as our right back signing last season. Its funny you think if two teams play attacking football they should have same stats irrespective of the squad quality. Leeds have 49 goals for and 30 against, so are they better than us? Should the context that they play in Championship matter? Keep on with your rant, that is why @jamesjimmybyrondean deos not want to continue discussing with you, at some point one has to realize if the argument is not at the same intellectual level its just waste of time. I'm done with you as well, you are just not going to acknowledge the point being made.
feckkk. You have me all figured out
So now you are saying I don't use my eyes. Let's use the eyes together to understand what we're talking about, shall we?
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