Ole"Which one of you cnuts is Donny Van De Beek?"
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I think they will go with a caretaker until the summer then go after Ten Hag.
I cant run out of arguments about his managerial abilities to be honest. No trashing, just facts.Ran out of arguments about the manager so you went over to trashing the playing career as well?
Thanks, kids no longer crying
Can see him giving some players a chance finally, like Lingard and maybe even van de Beek.
We've been in this toxic cycle for eight years with four different managers. Ole is succumbing to a similarly humiliating demise to Moyes and it's sad to see yes. If we want to avoid being in this position again with a new manager in two or three years time, we need actual football brains in our boardroom and a proper DOF too, but we ain't getting that so this cycle will continue.
This is the root of our problem.
A good proportion of our fan base are still stuck in the past and what gives the CO92 any special input that should be listened to above any other former player as none of them are employed by the club nor have any of them become top class coaches or managers(you can throw ole in there as well).
I bet there are still fans who think ole should be moved upstairs because his signings have been excellent which they haven’t.
Hopefully this experience with ole will finally break this nostalgic bootroom mentality and just employ the best people on and off the pitch even if they’ve never set foot in Old Trafford before.
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Berba is the first Sir Alex era player to outright come out and say this right?
Paul Ince
Tbf, Paul Ince was never Ole in.
Paul Ince was Ince in from the beginning.
The very least you expect in a match against your fiercest rivals, is for the player's to actually try
There was a moment in the first half when there was an opportunity (approaching Liverpool's box), for Rashford to have a run at Van Dijk with the ball.
Rashford saw Van Dijk and completely bailed out. He simply didn't fancy it.
I couldn't believe what I saw.
No confidence, no bravery, and ultimately no balls.
Problem with statement like this is that you have to back it up the next game.
Disappointment, try again, etc is good if you win the next match, but it feels like lame if you keep on losing the next game.
Ole sux big time as a a manager. If he was fired, only noggie teams will be in for him
Helps that he never played with Ole and thus doesn't think of him as his mate.
Meanwhile at the training ground
Ole - so this is what I get after assembling you all ?
Squad - 25m ?
Ole - shut up you overpaid cnuts
Squad - ha
Ole - so this is what I get after assembling you all ?
Squad - 25m ?
Ole - shut up you overpaid cnuts
Squad - ha
Loving Marcus but it’s such a pointless tweet. We’ve heard that already too many times.
I think in the future looking back at Ole’s tenure here we will surely have respect from him and love him for the fact he came after toxicity of Jose, but not many will rate it as even goodish
Yes. Why i should not?
Yeah he wanted Bruce or Hughes from day one.
If you read his article he isn’t calling for him to be sacked. Yet.
It really is! Such a toxic environment right now
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I mean, it's a fecking shambles. Ole is literally seen as a meme by oppo fans. One comment I saw yesterday from a City fan was: "Please Spurs, do God's work and let United win on Saturday".
You can't call fair criticisms of the manager and the players toxicity!! The team this season didn't do well overall, struggled a lot and it resulted poor form, which then culminated to a home thrashing by an arch-rival.
Fans have limits on accepting such situation, think of the game going fans, who spend their hard-earned money supporting this club, and they are served this bile of crap performances and results, think of how they feel when scouse fans singing (Ole at the Wheel) mocking them while losing 5 nil! if they turn on the manager and the players, then this is expected, you can't call toxic!
@Tom Van Persie I think Berba’s comments are fair and balanced. Unlike many at the moment.
I think it's less toxic than some weeks ago now. Most are pulling in the same direction and in agreement.
Rodgers was sacked by Liverpool in 2015 with 12 points from 8 played. We are currently 14 points from 9. Koeman was sacked yesterday with 15 points from 10 games.
It defies actual belief that he kept his job after Sunday. Furthermore, all the 'fans' still bleating on about backing him, as though they are some moral compass for fandom, need a reality check. Not understanding just how humiliating it is to lose 5 nil to Liverpool at Old Trafford, makes me question whether you 'get' the club at all. So while you may think it makes you look like some 'super fan', it's actually doing the exact opposite. No true supporter could possibly want him to stay on, given the absolute circus it is causing around the club.
It defies actual belief that he kept his job after Sunday. Furthermore, all the 'fans' still bleating on about backing him, as though they are some moral compass for fandom, need a reality check. Not understanding just how humiliating it is to lose 5 nil to Liverpool at Old Trafford, makes me question whether you 'get' the club at all. So while you may think it makes you look like some 'super fan', it's actually doing the exact opposite. No true supporter could possibly want him to stay on, given the absolute circus it is causing around the club.
Time will have to tell on these players and could really change how Ole is viewed. Has the potential to be a really expensive mess, some with major flaws and other surplus that simply have to let go or written off.
As each day goes by since Sunday, it is becoming more apparent that the only clause that the board have in Ole's contract regarding early termination of his services; is if the team fail to make the Top 4 in the league.
I guess the club doesnt want to leave the squad in a vacuum when 3 difficult games comes up and they have noone lined up, amateurish as they are.
And could be even worse having a new manager potentially start really bad.
And there is always contract and legal details to be figured out when hiring a new manager.
Normally an interim manager would be appointed, but as the criticism seems to be towards the coaching staff as well they probably think it wouldnt help anything.
Unless he by some miracle dominates and win handsomely the next three games he is 100% gone.
So its understandable they dont sack him just yet , as stupid as it looks.
I was of the thought train that we should certainly bide our time with any potential new manager etc. However, I hadn't envisaged the absolute shit-show of a week that we had.
Listen, what you said makes perfect sense. But, the fact it looks like he's lost a portion of the dressing room and him staying on, is creating a circus around the club, makes me fully believe he should have been dismissed on Monday morning. I wouldn't care if Carrick or Fletcher had to take the reigns until the international break.
Ole staying on is creating a farcical situation: there are constant leaks coming from the club and this whole '3 games to save his job' rhetoric is beyond ludicrous. The time to act was Monday. What if he pulls out some results over the next 3? No doubt our clueless Board will give him until after the international break to further 'prove himself'. The situation is totally untenable and the man has become an absolute meme to the media and rival fans. He's actively hurting himself and the club by his continued appointment. It's clear as day thst it's over. Rodgers was sacked after a 1-1 at Goodison, literally a day later.
Let this sink in. We have lower standards than Liverpool when they hadn't won the title for 30 years.
Looks like it. Fortunately we live in a world where fans can voice their opinion in a more transparent way, whether that is through social media or walking out of the ground during the match.
Any notion that he is 'the man' for the job is absolutely bonkers at this point. It's gone so far beyond that, that you would have to be a serious romantic to think otherwise.
That's exactly what Utd should be doing. There will be a much better choice of managers at the end of season. We really should be going all out for someone like Ten Hag who has a great footballing philosophy and whose team play attractive football. He has Ajax going toe to toe with the best in Europe on a much smaller budget. I don't think any of the managers available now are the right fit. We really need to get the right man in this time. Look at how Liverpool and Chelsea are progressing now under Klopp and Tuchel. It took Klopp a while to find success at Liverpool but he had the pedigree and had been successful at Dortmund and you could see progress at least. We look as disjointed and inconsistent as ever after 3 seasons with Ole in charge. Ole should only have ever been a caretaker himself. He should never have been considered for the permanent job with his experience, what other top club in Europe would have hired him on his credentials prior to the Utd job? Yes, none...even if he's available I doubt there is a team in the EPL who would be keen on him. He hasn't shown that he has any tactical acumen or style that he wants to play in.
I don"t think it will be a caretaker with so much of the season to play. The coaching team needs replaced. I feel certain a new manager will come after the city game. If Ole loses to Spurs then a caretaker might happen for a few weeks.
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