Unfortunately this is what we have done, and if the truth be known, Ole is not happy with not getting 2 of his priorities. Midfielder and a Striker???. Preparation needed NOW for january window.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Do you not believe we were in for Dybala?
Do you believe that he was a target or that we became interested when Juventus offered him rather than money for Lukau?
Yes in a swap deal. That now has gone and so too has the money received for Lukaku, without a replacement.
I am sorry but you have taken the comment in bold out of context. Yes, top 4 should be minimum for a club of Man Utd’s pedigree, in-fact we should be challenging for titles every season.
The fact of the matter is that we have not shown enough in the market to match our ambition and that is not on Ole but on the Glazers and Ed. You can sack Ole all you want but if the next manager is ‘backed’ the same way that Ole has been ‘backed’ this summer, 9 times out of 10 we will be struggling to make the top 4 considering the intense competition.
Erm.. it was not about a lack of signings. It was a transcript of what Ole was saying post-transfer window closing and how he sees things going forward. Jeez!
Yes, of course he hasn't been backed this summer, but finishing 6th is sackable offense, regardless of him being backed or not. Every job should have minimal requirements and for United that should be top 4.
There are certain standards you need to go along unless you want to become Everton tier team.
The latter
which suggests that had we sold Lukaku and been better prepared, we would've been able to reinvest in another striker with a net spend of 140m. My point was our planning sucked but clearly the Dybala swap suggested that we were happy to replace Lukaku if possible
Paint salad on the ball and Ill kick it to the other penalty box
When a player with Dybala's status/reputation is offered to you on a plate it would be negligent to not at least consider it, whether or not we need him. That's very different from thinking there's a gap in our squad we actively need to be filling. I, for one, am glad we decided Dybala wasn't worth the hassle and Ole saw not replacing Lukaku as the best way to fast track Greenwood.
FITNESS.
FITNESS.
FITNESS.
FITNESS.
FITNESS.
I am only new, so don't have the privilege to start a new thread. So I'm gonna put this in here.. it doesn't seem to have been discussed anywhere, from what I see.
August to Mid December last season - Man United covered the LEAST amount of ground of any club in the Prem League per match
Mid December - February last season - Man United covered the MOST amount of ground of any club in the Prem League per match
Unfortunately, our players - having gone from doing the least off the ball running to doing the most amount of off the ball running, became jaded and were clearly not fit enough to do what Solskjaer wanted them to do.. they ran out of steam, simply because they hadn't been trained to be fit enough by Jose and his coaches to do what Solskjaer wanted.
We went from a manager who didn't need his players running or pressing off the ball to one who does.
Now when the players COULD do what Ole wanted, we were probably the best team in the Premier League.
But our players were not fit enough to carry that through the rest of the season.
HOWEVER, the number one priority Ole put into pre-season was fitness. Players did double sessions for the first three weeks and were ALL given their own unique regime to follow, away from the training pitches.
If the players can carry out Ole's orders, like they did for 10-weeks only last season, all the way through this campaign we are gonna do a helluva lot better than our whiney, moany fans think we will.
There is an awful lot to be optimistic about; our defense is shored up and we have six academy graduates who have been given an opportunity to properly break through.
But the No.1 thing we should be excited about is that our players should be FIT enough to carry out Ole's gameplan. And we all know that when they could carry it out last season, they were were fecking brilliant!
Fitness was the No.1 quality we needed this summer. Much moreso than any transfer.
This is gonna be exciting!
He's been backed far more than Mourinho was after he achieved 2nd...
Has no excuses to not mount a strong Top 4 challenge and play some good footy imo.
Has no excuses to not mount a strong Top 4 challenge and play some good footy imo.
Surely it depends how good you think the squad is as to what a 'sackable' finish is. It's obviously not better than at least 3 teams. The meltdown on here suggests it's not better than 6th regardless of who we put in charge.
I doubt the management will enter a season if they don't think the team is good enough for 4th place. Makes no sense really.
Ole,Ed, etc surely do believe that the work on the transfer market is enough for 4 place.
Great post. I've been quietly optimistic about this season because of these particular reasons.
My thoughts aswell. The "gegenpress" can make any team fun to watch. Just look at what Klopp get out of his extremely mediocre squad.
I”m just so so dissapointed...How on earth can we go into a new season with such a gaping hole in midfield?Our transfer strategy is just beyond me...
I think we have had a bad transfer window but that's also the general consensus amongst fans. I have been expecting the worst for this upcoming season because even though I think our defence is somewhat now solid, I just cannot see where the goals will come from.
But for some reason I woke up today with a bit of optimism for the season. Then I saw the post below, which I half heartedly replied to earlier today, and it gave me a lightbulb moment.
I think the previous approach of buying mercenaries who, let's face it, only come here for the money is just adding to the cycle of misery. They dont care about the club, they are here to make money, simple. When they are unhappy or things aren't going their way they become a headache for the manager and turn to their agents.
IF Ole manages to allow Gomes, Greenwood, Mctominay, maybe Chong to develop into great players then I personally think we have more chance of catching up with liverpool and city than we do with throwing the chequebook at the likes of Dybala.
Obviously our youth players wont all flourish into world beaters but I think at least 2 of them has the potential to start for us within 3 years all being well.
But for some reason I woke up today with a bit of optimism for the season. Then I saw the post below, which I half heartedly replied to earlier today, and it gave me a lightbulb moment.
I think the previous approach of buying mercenaries who, let's face it, only come here for the money is just adding to the cycle of misery. They dont care about the club, they are here to make money, simple. When they are unhappy or things aren't going their way they become a headache for the manager and turn to their agents.
IF Ole manages to allow Gomes, Greenwood, Mctominay, maybe Chong to develop into great players then I personally think we have more chance of catching up with liverpool and city than we do with throwing the chequebook at the likes of Dybala.
Obviously our youth players wont all flourish into world beaters but I think at least 2 of them has the potential to start for us within 3 years all being well.
Amen. The negativity around here is tiring and dragging the entire forum down.
We are starting the season without a moaner as a coach, with a fit squad wanting to play attacking football with the most promising youth players we’ve had since 95 and with a club legend at the helm. I am looking forward to that!
Link? Thanks.
It’s not so much allowing them as it is developing them. He wants to go the youth route then he needs to show he can develop them. Beyond fitness levels.
I've been off this forum all summer. Needed a break from football to be honest since those wankers won the CL.
Some of the posts I've been reading on here are criminal. Why didn't we buy him ?or sell him.? My god if only is was that simple. I keep hearing we need to get the dead wood out.
Ole first window.
Fellani gone.
Ole second window.
Valencia gone.
Herrera Gone.
Lukuku gone
I can see Rojo and Darmian going next. Hopefully next week or so. But defo Jan and Young won't be far behind.
(7 Players out in under 18 months is a miracle).
He has brought in two great players which we have been crying out for.
AWB.
Maguire.
And a player that may surprise a few in James.
I'm so glad Utd are not just buying players for the sake of it. LVG and Mourhino have been guilty of this.
Ole has a way in which he wants to play. Maybe he has seen something in the Youth players that he believes can implement this better than what was out. I'm not saying I'm over the moon, but for the first time since Fergie has left, we are looking to rebuild this club properly. ALL the fans have to be patient. It will take 2 or 3 years to get it right. But I can start seeing a little light at the end of this long long tunnel.
Some of the posts I've been reading on here are criminal. Why didn't we buy him ?or sell him.? My god if only is was that simple. I keep hearing we need to get the dead wood out.
Ole first window.
Fellani gone.
Ole second window.
Valencia gone.
Herrera Gone.
Lukuku gone
I can see Rojo and Darmian going next. Hopefully next week or so. But defo Jan and Young won't be far behind.
(7 Players out in under 18 months is a miracle).
He has brought in two great players which we have been crying out for.
AWB.
Maguire.
And a player that may surprise a few in James.
I'm so glad Utd are not just buying players for the sake of it. LVG and Mourhino have been guilty of this.
Ole has a way in which he wants to play. Maybe he has seen something in the Youth players that he believes can implement this better than what was out. I'm not saying I'm over the moon, but for the first time since Fergie has left, we are looking to rebuild this club properly. ALL the fans have to be patient. It will take 2 or 3 years to get it right. But I can start seeing a little light at the end of this long long tunnel.
F-K negativity:
OLE'S THE WHEEL; TELL ME HOW GOOD DOES IT FEEL...
OLE'S THE WHEEL; TELL ME HOW GOOD DOES IT FEEL...
He has banked so much on Martial and Rashford, they need to repay him massively.
The irony to the above sentence is, he has probably killed them by not getting a great number 10.
The irony to the above sentence is, he has probably killed them by not getting a great number 10.
I still don't see a style of play or good positioning from us.
Liverpool and City's players know exactly which position they should take up at all times and theyre so well drilled.
We're just aiming to run faster and win via intensity. Let's see how it goes. I feel however that Ole the romantic sentimental guy will regret being so romantic and sentimental.
Liverpool and City's players know exactly which position they should take up at all times and theyre so well drilled.
We're just aiming to run faster and win via intensity. Let's see how it goes. I feel however that Ole the romantic sentimental guy will regret being so romantic and sentimental.
If (big if tbf) Pogba's on form, he'll lay on loads of assist for them. with all the pace we have up top, Pogba spraying his passes will work very well, especially on the counter.
This is huge for me, Ole's talked the talk with regards to youth players, I really want to see him walk the walk now and implement an attacking, pressing style of football with all the promising young lads we have. Gomes and Greenwood did more than enough over pre-season to warrant heavy inclusion in the first team plans.
Greenwood, Gomes and Chong were not in the U23 match apparently. So it could mean they would feature somehow against Chelsea? Hope Ole wins...
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Ole sitting in the dugout watching his team hammer Chelsea 4-0. The Toxic one sitting in a sky studio, bitter and unemployed. It fills my heart with joy.
So everyone could see he had balls to play young players even against a potential top 4!
Not starting Matić or Mata, probably slapped someone around during HT, he completely won me over!
Much better second half even without goals, which was good to see......lots to improve.
That match and performance was more enjoyable than anything I saw from us last season. Phasing out the average defenders and giving Tuanzebe the slot on the bench. Giving minutes to Greenwood and James.
I'm really liking this. Still a midfielder or two short, mind. But he's making me smile.
I'm really liking this. Still a midfielder or two short, mind. But he's making me smile.
Excellent job from OGS today. Keep it up!
He’s making a likeable team again.
The squad has been full of players I give no fecks about - namely Lukaku and Sanchez but seeing the shitty attitudes out of the side alongside the mediocre players being dropped (Young, Smalling, Jones) is a really good feeling.
The squad has been full of players I give no fecks about - namely Lukaku and Sanchez but seeing the shitty attitudes out of the side alongside the mediocre players being dropped (Young, Smalling, Jones) is a really good feeling.
Decision to drop Matić and letting McTominay do his thing deserves standing ovation.
Exactly. Most important thing. When the fans are 100% behind the team, OT is a near impossible place to get a result for most teams in this league. Onwards and upwards.
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Oh dear, the #OleOut stats enthusiasts wont be happy today. Predicted goals are still more important that actual goals aren't they?
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