Great analogy.Pre-season is like comparing your work week with your week in Tenerife
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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Lets hope we still see the smiling happy Pogba at the start of December,
Lot of pressure on the young lads.
I agree that it is. The post was more towards some people on here who seem to be offended by any negative points.
It would be better to give youth players a chance, but a lot people--including me--are not convinced they are going to play a lot. I think this is what is leading to much of the disinterest.
If I knew for certain they were going to play a lot, my interest would be a lot higher.
If he goes with youth I feel the fans will be a lot more understanding, if he keeps starting the likes of Mata and Lingard and the results don’t go our way he could feel some backlash.
If he plays those two without giving Gomes a decent chance I’ll be dissapointed.
He's talked the talk now. It's time to walk the walk.
Will he be brave enough to play the youth or will he be a coward and put his trust om Lingard, Matic and Mata? I am crossing my fingers he does the former.
Will he be brave enough to play the youth or will he be a coward and put his trust om Lingard, Matic and Mata? I am crossing my fingers he does the former.
He will obviously start of again with the old and untrusted and he will be judged by how soon he chnages.
Id like to see it, but he has shown nothing so far to make me think its possible, the problem is I think we need to play a certain way to get the best out of Sanchez, but that doesnt get the best out of the rest of the squad, its similar to the lukaku situation.
Getting the best out of Sanchez would require a machine that can turn back time.
Or playing against the dog and duck second 11 every week?
You can mock the dog and ducks all you want, but they at least strengthened in the summer!
If you look it is there, because it is in this thread.
Getting CL qualification for next year should be a minimum requirement for any United manager. Being LvG, Moyes, Ole or Jose doesn't matter.
Fail to do so should immediately bring the sack.
We can't afford a second year straight not qualifying for CL. That would send message to players like Dybala and Sancho who didn't want to joins us this year let alone if we keep the progression. You need elite players to be competitive and elite players don't want to play in Europa League.
You have to show ambition if you are a top team.
ABSOLUTELY. I would lay odds that he won't. In truth, based on pre-season you have to say Gomes and Greenwood were stars for us.
You have to give them a chance.
We haven't shown any ambition at all, we have only demonstrated continued apathy and fecklessness
We were well short in midfield and in attack and we sold 2 without replacing them. Top 4 is a pipe dream and could only be achievable if 2 other teams implode.
Yeah, they put me in goal, nothings getting past my fat ass!
Yes, maybe we did need another thread on the lac of signings. Your threads about the transfer window are after all like the early swallows heralding summer every single year. We should not clip their wings, but let them fly free.
He will start with the experiance which I think will be Martial up top Rashford left, Lingard number 10 and James on the right and see how it goes if he is challenging he will continue with this and if he isn't after 2-4 months he will start playing all the youth. This gives him a lifeline this way as he either succeeds first time round or he get a second chance if it goes wrong and everyone forgives him because he has started playing the youth. If he starts with youth he has no where to go if he fails early and will be heavily criticised for starting the "kids".
EDIT: I wouldn't even be suprised if none of the U21's were even in the squad for the first month or two.
I was responding to the post above which implied getting top 6 should be considered a job well done.
Clearly for a club of United's standard it should not.
I mean we went from champions contenders year after year 6-7 years ago, then to CL qualification 2-3 years ago, now top 6 is job well done?
After 2-3 years will be mid table mediocrity and fighting for relegation after 5?
No-one should say it would be a job well done but you could definitely say it would matches the level of ambition of the owners of the club.
100% this
That goes without saying. Woodward has set him up good. Could probably argue that was his plan from the off. If it was still Jose or Pep or other established manager he wouldn't have stood with that crap.
I also agree with you. The issue I have is that you saw how we performed the past two months of last season. If we start like that again, then Ole wont last to get the opportunity to use the kids
I am encouraged to hear about your generous hindquarters but what is your distribution from the back like?
Jose did what he was told just like Ole will have to do.
Yeah, saw the PR stints from the morning.
Don't believe the DoF "search" one bit either. Next manager will come in and still it will be Ed pulling up the strings.
Agree, but Ed is the Glaziers puppet, he also does as he is bid.
It's a vicious circle, unfortunately.
Transfer window is over, it is what it is. Lets focus on season ahead, talk is cheap anyway. Board can hide behind Ole, they all can hide behind the kids but if he picks the likes of Matic week in week out regardless of performances, there is no hiding from that and transfer window has nothing to do with it.
all the shit he gets about being a stooge is ridiculous and pathetic
Would we rather he attacks them in public like the toxic one?
He has to play the game to keep his job and gradually get the club back on its feet
One thing I am certain he will bring back is a sense of discipline balanced with nurturing. It’s clear he’s not going to tolerate shite from our players given what has come out about his reaction to Lingard and Lukaku’s antics
Hopefully he can create a strong environment for the very talented crop of youngsters we have to thrive in
Would we rather he attacks them in public like the toxic one?
He has to play the game to keep his job and gradually get the club back on its feet
One thing I am certain he will bring back is a sense of discipline balanced with nurturing. It’s clear he’s not going to tolerate shite from our players given what has come out about his reaction to Lingard and Lukaku’s antics
Hopefully he can create a strong environment for the very talented crop of youngsters we have to thrive in
latest comments are that the money was there but they are not just going to buy players for the sake of it if the right deals are not there. I kind of agree, however I still feel United should of planned this window better
That's why clubs have more than one target.
I think it's negligent that we didn't reinforce the midfield, even if we couldn't get our primary target.
It's not like our current squad is so strong that it's very difficult to find players that improve us.
That sounds very like " there is no value in the transfer market". That is small penny pinching club mentality.
“[But] for me, I’m very confident that we’ll get goals from [Anthony] Martial, [Marcus] Rashford… Dan James will come in and create, I’m sure Jesse Lingard will get more. We have a different attacking set-up this season”.
The strengthening of backline should cut down on goals conceded last season by 20 if Matic and McTominay work together in front of them.
Improving the goals for is a worry, unless we can get Sanchez firing for us.
Greenwood will get some goals but you can't expect the burden to be put on him.
Everyone needs to chip in as we have no prolific 25/30 goals a season player, yet.
Improving the goals for is a worry, unless we can get Sanchez firing for us.
Greenwood will get some goals but you can't expect the burden to be put on him.
Everyone needs to chip in as we have no prolific 25/30 goals a season player, yet.
We haven't got a 15-20 goals a season player yet.
They literally did say that though. Who is angry? Stop making stuff up.No one said that! Love it when people start making stuff up to get angry about.
Defence looks great but you need protection from midfield.
A Maldini--Baresi--Nesta--Cafu line will struggle if they are shielded by off the cliff Matic and average midfielders in front.
Usually if we can't rebuild the whole team you take care of one position per line to create a spine. You don't sign 3 100m defenders and completely overlook the midfield and attack..
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