No positives to talk about. We are clearly worst we have been since SAF.Cannot be more negative than your posts for sure..
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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The generic "That they need to keep working on the training ground and results will come" line would have been better than just trust them.
You’re calling Ole Gunnar Solskjaer a “nobody”.
But I’m the one that needs to do one.
I’ve provided constructive criticism of the manager. But I’m doing it rationally. I’m also highlighting the piss poor recruitment that has contributed to the club fielding a front four of James, Rashford, Lingard and Pereira on a weekly basis. That’s a midtable attacking unit that is a million miles away from what United should be fielding.
By the sounds of it half the so called “fans” in here should run the club, clearly they know better
Klopp was given time....now look how good he’s made Liverpool.
Yet even after players that we bought have worked - and they have - “Fans” still want more and more. United fans are an absolute joke. Too used to winning, spoilt entitled brats. Don’t have the patience and always expect a win and when they don’t get it want to throw out their shiny new toy & when that shiny new toy don’t work how they want it to, they too throw it out and want to change it until they get what they want. Before they realise it doesn’t work and everyone else around them has passed them by when they’re still scrapping around for something they yearn for so much they’d rather destroy the foundations of a club they’ve grown to love because their selfish delusions have made them believe that we should win every game because “we’re man utd”
Well I’m sorry, but as a fan, a REAL fan, you should take the rough with the smooth, we’re in a bad patch right now, don’t be all crazy and delusional and think that man utd will be in a relegation scrap because they won’t, there’s other teams worse than us. Don’t be so ridiculous. Being a fan of a football team requires you to accept losses and accept when its not going the way that you want it to. Well news flash. We simply aren’t as good as we used to be! Get over it!
In time we’ll return to where we were. Admit the fact it will take several years before we dominate again & enjoy the ride along the way.
But the one thing you cannot do is keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. It won’t happen. Give Ole time to get HIS team in and see how results go then.
There is no narrative. We are a poorly coached team which struggles to fashion chances. I know we don't have the same quality as we had in years gone by but please we have no business being that low down in the table when it comes to creating from open play. Lampard's kindergarten are creating chances for fun and he lost his best player plus had a transfer ban.
That's what keeps getting me too. Every week i think that's it, we've hit our lowest point now, how can it possibly get any worse? And up steps Ole to deliver another abomination of a performance to make me reconsider my sanity!
Newcastle away & Liverpool next. I'm expecting us to be near the bottom of the table after them & hopefully that will be the end of this cute little experiment with Ole.
Who cares anyway. Just let them finish the season and break our worst records during that time.
It's good as over.
It's good as over.
We really are turning into a proper midtable side under him. Sorry stuff.
Dead serious you could think Hodgson was our manager.
I'm on the fence. Im not convinced at all atm but I do think we should probably just give him time. You can see what he is trying to do and if it takes one or two full seasons then I will be more than happy to give him time.
Many people think it isn't going to work even after 5 years of trying under Ole and I cant argue against that viewpoint either.
Many people think it isn't going to work even after 5 years of trying under Ole and I cant argue against that viewpoint either.
He said he expects the players to get better as the season goes along due to increased experience and that tonight was a steep learning curve for us. I don't think even he knows what he's talking about anymore.
How is he a fraud?
Apart from De Gea, Maguire and Pogba the rest of the team that played today wouldn’t look out of place in midtable. James is a good egg and Lindelof is decent. The rest are playing at their level, ultimately.
Do we even need one? Only the most deluded and sentimental fans have any faith in him turning it around now surely?
What is most worrying is that we have no attacking play. You look at City and you see how they create chance after chance. We could barely create anything today when arsenal had ten men behind the ball. Only in counter attacks could we create something.
Genuinely curious what that is?
Interested.
Pogba is bad wherever he playes, was he one today? Was even worse when he was changed to AM role.
His legend is the only thing keeping him here. It seems to me he will just keep getting a free pass.
I have as much faith in his managerial ability as I do in Rashford scoring 30 goals this season.
I have as much faith in his managerial ability as I do in Rashford scoring 30 goals this season.
It is absolutely dreadful I agree, but there's little prospect of improving under Carrick/Phelan/whoever and dumping your manager before Christmas gives the appearance of panic, desperation and incompetence, not things our Board will want to be associated with.
Could be sacked. This is not us creating 30 chances and just being unlucky. We are not creating much. We have no attacking nous to our play.
Just really feel like he's sending them out there and telling them "play!" which....isn't really going to do the job with a team like that. This team desperately needs some work on the training pitch, that's how average teams end up doing well.
Learn to separate Ole the player and Ole the manager, the two are not connected, this is ridiculous.
We’re getting worse and worse, this is plain to see, clubs should have standards, this is nowhere near good enough, not even with that squad of players.
He is a piss poor manager and he won’t make it here, some things are obvious, this is one of them.
He has no business managing at this level after his stint with Cardiff.
What a sentimental horseshite disaster this appointment has turned out to be.
...so Keano says he needs to be given time.
Keano isn’t one to sugar-coat, but I assume this is just down to him coddling Ole or being a shill for United, right? Or just straight up clueless, and the raging mob on the Caf knows better?
Keano isn’t one to sugar-coat, but I assume this is just down to him coddling Ole or being a shill for United, right? Or just straight up clueless, and the raging mob on the Caf knows better?
Woodward will probably sack him to shift the blame once again from himself. December perhaps ?
Just wondering who's going to be next manager for sacking.
Just wondering who's going to be next manager for sacking.
Speaks so much about tactics. Hasn't got rhe foggiest how to set up a team in basic situations.
We are where we are because we lower our expectations so much that you would think we are some Norwich level team. Our problem is firstly hiring wrong managers and secondly not knowing when to get rid of them, we just delay the inevitable until it’s impossible to save the season. Like in this case, it’s painfully clear Ole is out of his depth here but we won’t take any action until it’s too late.We are a laughing stock and our fans are generally deluded when it comes to the managers. We are the only ones in the world creating banners and songs for managers who have won feck all with us and sometimes even before their first match. We have lots of fans who think any average manager can turn into SAF if only he is given at least 5 years and £400m to buy his team. Managers at all other clubs are being evaluated since day 1, their ability to show something with the squad they have. Not in our fans eyes. We can’t judge the manager until he signs 20 players. Absolute madness.
I think we'll sack Allegri next.
However this ends up, it shouldn't reflect poorly on Ole. He's simply doing what any one of us would do and jumping at the chance to try and help the club that he loves, no matter how naive he might be to do so.
This is on the board - they hired a guy purely because of his status as a United legend and not because of his managerial record. When you think about it, it's crazy how someone with his experience has the job. Woodward must be held accountable for a decision which was clearly done to buy him extra time/take him out of the firing line.
This is on the board - they hired a guy purely because of his status as a United legend and not because of his managerial record. When you think about it, it's crazy how someone with his experience has the job. Woodward must be held accountable for a decision which was clearly done to buy him extra time/take him out of the firing line.
Playing more youth players than previous managers, playing players with good attitudes who are desperate to play for the club, playing attacking high paced football and build onwards.
That's what I see currently see at the club as of late, given the signings, departures and simply the comments from the man in charge himself. Whether it actually materialises is another thing.
We might get relegated and you'll still see the Top Reds here saying "You're spoiled glory hunters who only used to see us winning, stop fecking moaning. I saw United get relegated 60 years ago, it's not a big problem or something new. Trust Ole, he'll turn it on and we'll back in no time" or something.
Manchester United legend Roy Keane says former team-mate Ole Gunnar Solskjaer should "100%" be given more time as manager.
"I think he has been brilliant, a good honest guy. It is hard work at the moment, but there are six or seven young players learning their way," said Keane on Sky Sports.
"We’re all very impatient, we want success yesterday, but you have to give the man time. He is frustrated, under pressure, but dealing with it. He’s a classy guy but no doubt he will be disappointed at not winning enough games.
"They have given him the job, support him in a couple of transfer windows. Are there more tough days ahead? You bet your life, but you need to stick with it. There was a lack of quality from both teams tonight. Their lack of goals, the lack of opportunities they’re creating.
"Give these boys time. But on tonight's performance, none of them [neither Manchester United nor Arsenal] will be in the top four.
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"I think he has been brilliant, a good honest guy. It is hard work at the moment, but there are six or seven young players learning their way," said Keane on Sky Sports.
"We’re all very impatient, we want success yesterday, but you have to give the man time. He is frustrated, under pressure, but dealing with it. He’s a classy guy but no doubt he will be disappointed at not winning enough games.
"They have given him the job, support him in a couple of transfer windows. Are there more tough days ahead? You bet your life, but you need to stick with it. There was a lack of quality from both teams tonight. Their lack of goals, the lack of opportunities they’re creating.
"Give these boys time. But on tonight's performance, none of them [neither Manchester United nor Arsenal] will be in the top four.
From the BBC
I don’t think Liverpool should be the game in which he gets sacked for if we lose. They are exceptionally good and I can’t imagine too many fans expecting us to get anything out of it.
b-b-but he knows what this club is all about. A few extra running sessions will get us back where we belong.
The right manager needs the right environment in order to succeed. You don't have that at United. There is absolutely no structure. All major footballing decisions are made by a guy who hasn't got a clue about football. Four permanent managers have failed in the last 6 years. All with different backgrounds and styles of football. All have one thing in common. Ed Woodward.
He has no respect to the fans, otherwise he would resign because the job is bigger than him, but holding on the job because it is his dream while 600 m supporter suffer because of that is a disgrace.
That is a stupid argument. Attack his defensive organisation, attacking coaching, substitutes or whatever, but that is ridiculous.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has “no respect” for United fans. So says a bloke that is in all likelihood punching the walls from inside a basement in either the States or South East Asia.
Thing is we go into every game now not expecting to win. We cant manage more than 1 goal, as the Chelsea game was a fluke.
Are you having a laugh? The football is horrendous, no patterns of play at all, zero identity. And he's had time to amend that. I'm not even going into the questionable 'good attitudes' argument.
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