true and that's what concerned me, not our recent games. These guys know that they are shit. They ended up at a top club, on huge salaries, and they will fight foot and nail to stay here. If that means getting the manager sacked only to earn yet another grace period then they'll do it. You don't dilly dally with bad weed. SAF bought 10 players between 1988 and 1989. That was a time when squads were half the size they are now.Huge personnel changes by handing Young and Jones new contrasts didn’t set a very good precedent .
WTF! Have you been hiding under a rock?He might walk at this rate. This is the lowest point in the last 6 years. Even if he is incharge next season, we need to hire someone to sign the right players. I don't trust Ole's judgement at this point considering his team selections.
There are systemic problems within the club that go far beyond Ole but why does he get automatic, absolute faith? It's a bizarre approach. We aren't duty-bound to back him if we think an alternative option will be better for the club.Nothing to do now except back him in the summer. Fans need to turn their frustration towards the board and the players.
Im wondering whether I should apply for the role? I get the club and understand the United way.don't worry, he'll come out with some cliches like the United way etc in the post match
Agree completely.Only incompetent board would do that. If They only go by what the fans want or happy about then what the feck are They doing exactly? might as well leave the club and make a website to do a poll for every single decision the club has to make. The board and Woodward are jokes, clueless, how many years since Fergie left? how many blunders have They made? and They still haven't learned.
Worst of all, They didn't bring anyone to help Woodward even though They have no idea how to run a club like Manchester United.
Best people? Like a legendary manager like LVG? Like one of modern times most successfull manager in Mourinho? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZI got ridiculed by some on here for saying ole may have to go and that he was appointed too early and now look.
Forget fairy tales and legends, get the best people in to do the job!
Aye, losing to Everton itself is, while annoying, fine. Shite happens. As do dips in form. The problem is the extent of the defeat and the fact that we've been losing constantly since the start of March.Blame the players all you want but they wouldn't be beaten by Everton 4-0 with absolute no control of the game.
The last PL game was the exact same - no control & that's from the manager & tactics.
Valid point but there’s something oddly consistent about these players being toxic. I don’t see how any manager works with this as it is without clearing the players out. Also, it might be toxicity flowing down from the admin levels in which case no one can succeed. It’s hard to pinpoint.But why are we willing to give someone two or three transfer windows on the off-chance they might be good enough when the evidence is (increasingly) beginning to demonstrate otherwise? If we're sitting in 7th at the end of the season we will obviously sack him, irrespective of whether or not he wants to make more changes. New managers have come into clubs before and changed things drastically without necessarily overhauling the squad. I think we need significant changes on the pitch but no manager is going to get the time to literally change us entirely over three years if they don't perform well in the meantime. Football doesn't work that way.
PochettinoMou won the league Chelsea the year before, plus everyone gets the sack at Chelsea.
Who is good enough then ? Because at the moment the only manager that doesn't fall short is Pep.
Im honestly tired of this, maybe people forget how good of a team we was under Sir Alex in the prime years we played some of the best attacking football not in the league but in Europe. If Solskjaer had the capabilities to do so, then he wouldn't be managing molde.What exactly has he shown that you feel he will be able to or is trying to inplement Fergie's style? His pressers don't count as an answer.
Certainly Sanchez needs to be let go so the club's wage structure can be re-established at a level where the players will actually play, rather than simply cashing in. He is no use to anyone, and was actually pretty poor for 18 months at Arsenal before the move - the writing was always on the wall there.Who comes on? Lingard and Sanchez?
There’s not much evidence of that at all sadly. We’ve looked terrible for months. There’s just not even any style of play any more.Can only hope and pray that Ole is a terrific coach in the making and makes huge strides towards that in the summer.
LVG had demonstrated in previous jobs that he had the capability of sometimes getting it completely wrong despite his quality due to his stubbornness. The signs of Mourinho's decline were obvious at Chelsea.Best people? Like a legendary manager like LVG? Like one of modern times most successfull manager in Mourinho? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Agreed. But we all know the latter is what will happen once again.Yep. Plus a good DOF should hopefully ensure that even if Ole proves to be a bad choice the recruitment we do will still be building to something. As opposed to having to rip it all up again if/when Solskjaer does leave.
Tough love didn't work, arm round the shoulder is now failing. I doubt there's a manager who could get consistent performances out of this team.Jose was right but we did not want to back him and his methods, tough as they were. He did not win 2 Champions League for nothing.
It’s not like he’s some super young much hyped coach, he’s never been they highly regarded. He’s only here because he used to play for us.Can only hope and pray that Ole is a terrific coach in the making and makes huge strides towards that in the summer.
I don't know why Poch is repeatedly mentioned in such threads as if he was ever an option. He signed a 5 year new contract only 9 months ago and is clearly very happy at Spurs. He is not even remotely going to give up what he has at Spurs to come to United.... I still see calls for Poch - but he's also an unknown quantity - he's under very little expectation at Spurs and hasn't had to sort out any real mess. I'd have him lasting a season at best before being fired ....
Chelsea have often been notoriously toxic but they still win league titles more than we do.Valid point but there’s something oddly consistent about these players being toxic. I don’t see how any manager works with this as it is without clearing the players out. Also, it might be toxicity flowing down from the admin levels in which case no one can succeed. It’s hard to pinpoint.
May be Woodward can start talking about getting Poch.... This should unsettle Spurs and kick some ass at home.Sack him now. Don't give him 300 mil and sack him in december when he fecks up another season.
I feel like this has more to do with Woodward and the Glazers than it has to do with out manager at least when it comes to who comes in and out. Agree with the DOF for sure.This team needs a huge rebuild and I don’t think Ole is experienced enough to do that. If we screw up this window, that would mean another 2-3 years of shite.
We should get a DOF in, it’s an absolute necessity. We need to build towards a style of play, it may take years but that’s the only way out.
Agreed. Top 4 isn't happening anyway. Nothing left to play for.If OGS has the balls he should now drop the bulk of this team and play the youngsters. We have no top 4 to play for and he should by now understand who is not good enough for United. Gomez,Chong, greenwood deserve their chance
Because he's barely been in the job. Most managers get automatic faith for their first few months. Not to mention there is no way we sack him now so the focus needs to be on the players and board.There are systemic problems within the club that go far beyond Ole but why does he get automatic, absolute faith? It's a bizarre approach. We aren't duty-bound to back him if we think an alternative option will be better for the club.
Yeah man it’s a mystery to me.Chelsea have often been notoriously toxic but they still win league titles more than we do.
I kept saying it.United board and the fans to be fair are to blame. They all got excited on his start and basically helped push the board to male a decision that would Make the fans happy. Everyone on this forum thought he was the real deal when it was obvious this was his Di Matteo moment.
I just cant understand why they could not wait until the end of the season to make such a big decision.
Yes financially maybe. But not his authority. When he was at loggerheads with the players, the club should have stood on his side and backed his authority. Players who do not toe the line should be sold.We literally let him break the world transfer record, we did back him. Stop this revisionist nonsense. He was a terrible manager for us towards the end. The signs were there when he completely collapsed at Chelsea in his third season.
The David Squires comic had him down to a tee. All we need is to believe in fairy tales!don't worry, he'll come out with some cliches like the United way etc in the post match
Tell me a lower point.WTF! Have you been hiding under a rock?
