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Zouma brought lots of gifts.we could have punished them even more if martial had put away the free chance he got due to Zouma passing error early on
Zouma brought lots of gifts.we could have punished them even more if martial had put away the free chance he got due to Zouma passing error early on
We have to. Otherwise, there will be no belief, no confidence, and nothing will work out. So Ole has to convince the players that it's going to be the title this year, and some early good results will obviously help with the confidence.The less we need to rotate in the PL, the better. It's been too long since we had an obvious first XI, the sooner we work one out the better, the others can get their chances in the cups.
The successful premier league sides recently you can name 9/10 of their starting line ups without even thinking about it, constant injuries and inconsistency of line ups has been an issue for us in recent years.
We're not in a title race though.
I don't think we'll be bummed by either at OT, that Chelsea team is far Better than Norwich and a good bit better than West Ham, obviously it's just one match, but give us some credit.The real test of his presence would be how he'd react to a bad loss or two. See if he can still have that effect when he comes in the dressing room after we get bummed by City or Liverpool.
Evra said something similar. Apparently over there you run really a lot... I find that weird. Surely Ole makes the lads work out a lot as well.So lukaku claims he is now doing 'real work' at Inter eh.
IIRC he wasnt training with the group after few days.Evra said something similar. Apparently over there you run really a lot... I find that weird. Surely Ole makes the lads work out a lot as well.
Sounds like they do old school donkey work where you run until you drop. It's moved on from that in England now.Evra said something similar. Apparently over there you run really a lot... I find that weird. Surely Ole makes the lads work out a lot as well.
Easy to say that when you fake an injury so you don't have to take part in a super intense pre season.So lukaku claims he is now doing 'real work' at Inter eh.
It was his first competitive game since the awful injury he suffered in April. It's not a surprise he wasn't at his best.I watched Longstaff against Arsenal . He's a long way off being Carrick.
Carrick was bought from West Ham by Spurs at 22 when they were in the Championship. In his first season at WHL he was very up and down and there was many fans who suspected he was a club signing rather than a manager/coach signing.So was Carrick at the same age. Do we wait till he's the finished product and cost 5X more, or gamble on a young promising player?
That's very true and I'm sure the Arsenal game won't reflect his season but there were some folk on here genuinely wanting us to pay £50m for him. Insanity takes over in transfer windows.It was his first competitive game since the awful injury he suffered in April. It's not a surprise he wasn't at his best.
Good post. Some managers, whether in football or normal industry, need time to assess things and make necessary changes. Not all changes can be made instantly. The key is not just looking for a manager who can bring instant success (nice as that would be) but to look for analytical managers that can identify things that are wrong and make changes that bring stability and success.I am a long term supporter and have witnessed the comings and goings of managers from Sir Matt onwards. Times have changed I accept that and there is a feel amongst supporters of the need for instant success and I understand this after the years of success. However, two of the 3 most successful of the club's managers ( Sir Matt and Sir Alex ) were not in their early years very successful.
Sir Matt became officially manager on the 1.10.1945 and managed league runners up in the following years 1947, 48, 49 and 1951, in this period his only success was the FA., Cup in 1948 and it was not until 1952 that the team won the 1st Division Champion which was not repeated until 1956.
Sir Alex took 6 years before his first success. My point is that both of these eventually became very successful managers, however, it took time for them to bring to the club the changes in players, coaching and supporting infrastructure needed for prolonged success.
Ole now needs the same support both from the fans and the owners, this restructuring of the club at a playing level will take time, however, I believe that if he is given that time and the support of the owners and fans he is capable of building another great club dynesty
Great post. Thanks.I am a long term supporter and have witnessed the comings and goings of managers from Sir Matt onwards. Times have changed I accept that and there is a feel amongst supporters of the need for instant success and I understand this after the years of success. However, two of the 3 most successful of the club's managers ( Sir Matt and Sir Alex ) were not in their early years very successful.
Sir Matt became officially manager on the 1.10.1945 and managed league runners up in the following years 1947, 48, 49 and 1951, in this period his only success was the FA., Cup in 1948 and it was not until 1952 that the team won the 1st Division Champion which was not repeated until 1956.
Sir Alex took 6 years before his first success. My point is that both of these eventually became very successful managers, however, it took time for them to bring to the club the changes in players, coaching and supporting infrastructure needed for prolonged success.
Ole now needs the same support both from the fans and the owners, this restructuring of the club at a playing level will take time, however, I believe that if he is given that time and the support of the owners and fans he is capable of building another great club dynesty
Carrick was good at West Ham - but he wasn't brilliant.Carrick spent just 2 years at Spurs, also we had good midfield back then with Scholes, Keane (on his last legs) playing. When Carrick was at West Ham, we had arguably the best midfield in PL.
There was nothing in Fergusons results in 88/89 and 89/90 that earned him his time. He earned his time because our board at the time managed to see beyond the results and look a few years ahead. We are now finally moving in the right direction. I haven't been this excited about Our youth set-up since the 92-generation. We are playing attractive football, we have persuaded a bunch of players to sign new contracts.I admire your belief and support but I don’t agree with you.
I support Manchester United! Supporting the club isn’t my job, it’s my passion. When things are good I’m happy and when results are bad I’m miserable. That’s how it works and we as supporters have to pay to enjoy our passion, nothing is for free, not even blind love.
In my time with this club I have seen nine managers come and go. Managers are employees and get paid to take care of our first team and they are also accountable for our results. The reason they are top earners is because of the nature of the job. A United manager is followed by millions and judged 24/7.
Sir Alex wasn’t given a life long contract to take care of United for the rest of his life. He earned his time by showing progress and deliver results. According to history he was only one game away from being sacked. It tells us that every United manager are accountable for his results.
After six years of miss management from our board and CEO I agree that we probably has to give Solskjaer some extra time to implement his ideas, but it only works if he shows progress. Results will either help him to continue as manager or get him sacked.
If United don’t finish in top six, maybe top four depending on details in his contract, then I’m 100% sure his gone before next summer. This has nothing to do with your or my support, it’s modern business.
I am a long term supporter and have witnessed the comings and goings of managers from Sir Matt onwards. Times have changed I accept that and there is a feel amongst supporters of the need for instant success and I understand this after the years of success. However, two of the 3 most successful of the club's managers ( Sir Matt and Sir Alex ) were not in their early years very successful.
Sir Matt became officially manager on the 1.10.1945 and managed league runners up in the following years 1947, 48, 49 and 1951, in this period his only success was the FA., Cup in 1948 and it was not until 1952 that the team won the 1st Division Champion which was not repeated until 1956.
Sir Alex took 6 years before his first success. My point is that both of these eventually became very successful managers, however, it took time for them to bring to the club the changes in players, coaching and supporting infrastructure needed for prolonged success.
Ole now needs the same support both from the fans and the owners, this restructuring of the club at a playing level will take time, however, I believe that if he is given that time and the support of the owners and fans he is capable of building another great club dynesty
A good post in reply to a good post, especially the bit in bold. None of these 3 players will give anything but there all and none of them will be agitating for a move.Great post. Thanks.
I agree that times have changed. He won't get 6 years. But I hope the supporters and the directors give him a couple of years at least.
He has said it will take more than one window. I know a lot of people think the transfer window was disappointing but I think we've recruited well. The ones we've chosen are great. The defence is improved and in Daniel James we've acquired a new fan favourite if the passion in his celebration is anything to go by.
The three players we bought seem to be honoured to be in the team and see United as the peak of their career.
If it takes us a couple of years to collect these sorts of players and also slowly bring through academy players who would die for the club then I for one will be patient .
United needs to be full of players that care, work for each other and celebrate together. In today's world that will take a while to amass a squad like that.
But hopefully not 6 years.
Great post and shows the difference between a club built on history rather than heavy investment with the aim of quick success.I am a long term supporter and have witnessed the comings and goings of managers from Sir Matt onwards. Times have changed I accept that and there is a feel amongst supporters of the need for instant success and I understand this after the years of success. However, two of the 3 most successful of the club's managers ( Sir Matt and Sir Alex ) were not in their early years very successful.
Sir Matt became officially manager on the 1.10.1945 and managed league runners up in the following years 1947, 48, 49 and 1951, in this period his only success was the FA., Cup in 1948 and it was not until 1952 that the team won the 1st Division Champion which was not repeated until 1956.
Sir Alex took 6 years before his first success. My point is that both of these eventually became very successful managers, however, it took time for them to bring to the club the changes in players, coaching and supporting infrastructure needed for prolonged success.
Ole now needs the same support both from the fans and the owners, this restructuring of the club at a playing level will take time, however, I believe that if he is given that time and the support of the owners and fans he is capable of building another great club dynesty
Judging from matchday 1.That's very true and I'm sure the Arsenal game won't reflect his season but there were some folk on here genuinely wanting us to pay £50m for him. Insanity takes over in transfer windows.
Good post! I agree with everything.I am a long term supporter and have witnessed the comings and goings of managers from Sir Matt onwards. Times have changed I accept that and there is a feel amongst supporters of the need for instant success and I understand this after the years of success. However, two of the 3 most successful of the club's managers ( Sir Matt and Sir Alex ) were not in their early years very successful.
Sir Matt became officially manager on the 1.10.1945 and managed league runners up in the following years 1947, 48, 49 and 1951, in this period his only success was the FA., Cup in 1948 and it was not until 1952 that the team won the 1st Division Champion which was not repeated until 1956.
Sir Alex took 6 years before his first success. My point is that both of these eventually became very successful managers, however, it took time for them to bring to the club the changes in players, coaching and supporting infrastructure needed for prolonged success.
Ole now needs the same support both from the fans and the owners, this restructuring of the club at a playing level will take time, however, I believe that if he is given that time and the support of the owners and fans he is capable of building another great club dynesty
This post should have it’s own thread.I am a long term supporter and have witnessed the comings and goings of managers from Sir Matt onwards. Times have changed I accept that and there is a feel amongst supporters of the need for instant success and I understand this after the years of success. However, two of the 3 most successful of the club's managers ( Sir Matt and Sir Alex ) were not in their early years very successful.
Sir Matt became officially manager on the 1.10.1945 and managed league runners up in the following years 1947, 48, 49 and 1951, in this period his only success was the FA., Cup in 1948 and it was not until 1952 that the team won the 1st Division Champion which was not repeated until 1956.
Sir Alex took 6 years before his first success. My point is that both of these eventually became very successful managers, however, it took time for them to bring to the club the changes in players, coaching and supporting infrastructure needed for prolonged success.
Ole now needs the same support both from the fans and the owners, this restructuring of the club at a playing level will take time, however, I believe that if he is given that time and the support of the owners and fans he is capable of building another great club dynesty
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Which must be a huge boost to the U18s to see the boss watching them. A huge difference from Jose attitude. Great to see.Tweet
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Spent the day before the Chelsea game watching the U18s. I'm sure the haters will find something negative in this too. "If he had been focused on the Chelsea game instead of watching the kids we wouldn't have had a sloppy first half."
I agree. Whether Ole will win us trophies remains to be seen but he's definitely altering the course we were on. I was a big fan of the signings we made and after Sunday, even more so. Committed players with great work ethics, great to see.I’m feeling good about Ole and the club in general at the moment. It definitely feels like we’re building the right sort of squad in terms of playstyle, attitude, commitment. We still have a long way to go, and there will certainly be many testing times this season, but I’m already getting a different feeling about this team. Rumours today about Ole looking to bin off Sanchez, get another negative legacy player off the books and continue to build for the future. Who knows where it’ll take us? I just want to enjoy watching the team again.
Simon Stone in one of the interview with Howson said "Ole makes decisions which he feels is good for the club, Jose makes decision which is good for Jose". Not exactly word by word, just paraphrased it.Which must be a huge boost to the U18s to see the boss watching them. A huge difference from Jose attitude. Great to see.
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That's some prediction.
It is, you can click on that tweet.Feck me, is that actually genuine?! If so, feck.
Can't believe he has left all that talent out of the first team by offering contract extensions for Jones, Smalling, Young and Mata.Tweet
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Spent the day before the Chelsea game watching the U18s. I'm sure the haters will find something negative in this too. "If he had been focused on the Chelsea game instead of watching the kids we wouldn't have had a sloppy first half."
Are there many true united fan Solskjær haters? If so I hope they get a tight painful kick to the nuts each and every time they dare to criticise a club legend.Tweet
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Spent the day before the Chelsea game watching the U18s. I'm sure the haters will find something negative in this too. "If he had been focused on the Chelsea game instead of watching the kids we wouldn't have had a sloppy first half."
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