The amount of fans on here seemingly upset with a United win today... you love to see it.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I remember us being midtable at a very early point in the season Under Jose, the exact dates and points situation I'm unclear on.
It's worth pointing out that we have been a little unfortunate this season. We could have come away with victories against Wolves, Southampton and Palace so far, many would argue we should have considering the missed penalties and chances that went begging.
Those who are claiming Ole needs more time, did Lampard need more time to implement the attacking patterns? He also had a transfer ban!
They drew 2-2 at home against a newly promoted side last week at home.
We tonked them 4-0 in the opener.
FFS. Get some perspective.
After five PL games:
Greenwood: 47min
Chong: 20min
Gomes: 0min
Garner: 0min
Even accepting that young players need time to bed in and someone like Garner was never likely to feature much if at all, it's still more conservative than I was expecting.
Greenwood: 47min
Chong: 20min
Gomes: 0min
Garner: 0min
Even accepting that young players need time to bed in and someone like Garner was never likely to feature much if at all, it's still more conservative than I was expecting.
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Ole may or may not turn out to be good enough(I have criticised his in game managment)but in 9 months he's got shot of loads of deadwood plus his 3 signings have looked spot on so far.
He can't do it all in one go as he's got to rely on the glazers and Woodward and results on the pitch are not the top priority for them.
We are trying to play the right way and with some quality signings upfront we will be a different team.
Give it time.
If you just want to ignore everything and just look at the results, you are welcome to do it. They are not having problems in scoring goals, its the defence. Something we sorted out this window.
Its pretty much what Sarri did but faster not sure what patterns he's implemented.
Weird to use them as an ideal to look up to when they have their own issues.
90% of our fanbase are fairweather fans who only experienced the Ferguson era. They think we have a divine right to win the PL and cant fathom a United that is not #1. The jury is still very much out on Ole, but demanding blood after FIVE fecking games considering our circumstances is pathetic.
Neville was in the Norwegian studio today and he spoke a lot of sense. We need at least 4 windows to make this squad competitive again. Guardiola needed that many windows to win the league and the squad he took over was 3x better than this one at least. From the players we fielded today only DDG, AWB and maybe Maguire would make it into a Ferguson team. The rest are not even bench quality.
Players like Wes Brown, O'Shea, Fletcher and Park could walk into this team and improve us immensely.
We are in a massive rebuild and wont compete for silverware in a while. Those are the facts
That's what we have been saying for past 4 games but didn't stop anyone from moaning that we didn't win them all.
I am not using them as an ideal. Its the excuses that Ole defenders are throwing up. More time, more windows.. It didn't take Sarri and Emery time in implementing a style and its not taking Lampard much time too. Ole did well initially but has changed it completely albeit for worse performances.
Because some get a kick out of United losing in the hope Solskjær will be gone soon.
So, how many transfers does a manager need to start implementing a philosophy? Can this particular manager only work with a specific group of 25 players?
That's a good point. Klopp needed two years to make Liverpool competitive again too.
The football needs to improve.
Yeah and he acknowledges that in his post match interview
Fair enough and as I said, was not trying to go against your narrative completely. Just think it took a while longer before it really went pear shaped with Jose. We certainly needed the 3 points today as plenty more tougher games ahead. Im still 50/50 on whether we will be much better though come December this year as we were when Jose got the boot. The three signings may look good but I fear for our squad depth and for Ole over these next few months.
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"I love Ole"
"Sack Ole"
"No I love him"
"He doesnt know what he is doing"
"Oles at the wheel"
The ramblings of a tiny plastic mind
"Sack Ole"
"No I love him"
"He doesnt know what he is doing"
"Oles at the wheel"
The ramblings of a tiny plastic mind
Heard that even under Fergie when we had Ronaldo and co.
Sometimes there are matches where we don't play well but scrap out a win.
The last few we have dominated possession and deserved to win but were unable to.
Different for individual I guess?
LVG or Jose with more 2 years or more and lots of money couldn't get it done. So, it is hard to tell.
Well, the players are certainly pressing more than they were under Jose and LVG. They look a lot more defensively solid as a unit too. Attacking-wise not so much, at least today, but we were without Martial, Pogba and Shaw this afternoon, each of which is integral to our attack.
Also, LVG and Jose are both similarly defensive managers. Between them, they indoctrinated (not sure that is the right word) a defensive philosophy into the squad over five years. That's not going to be easy to shake for the players, no matter how skilled the manager, which is most likely why Ole chose to clear out the ones he knew would never adapt to his own more attacking approach.
I believe we will see them bled in a little bit more in the cup matches. Thats the hope at least.
Yeah, squad depth is most definitely a worry. The midfield area looks especially weak, forward options are none too exciting either.
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Gomes will be off at the end of the season and who can blame him. Cant even get a look in when Linzy and Martial are injured.
Whatever strategy ole is using is not working and it hasn't worked for a long time. This guy hasn't won any league titles with Molde for the past half a decade. He was out of depth at Cardiff as well. Yet for some strange reason he's believed to be good enough for us
We beat Chelsea 4-0
I’d expect him to start against Astana, if not I give up.
That post is the modern playstation generation all over.
Had the Internet been about I Would have loved to see your posts between 1968 and 1992
We basically play a high press for 20 minutes and then when we’re knackered we sit deep and counter. In fairness it has led to us controlling most games we’ve played so far with only individual errors costing us.
Bless Ole but this is going to end in tears.
Yep, I will give up as well.
Preach. Neville was talking a ton of sense about the mercenaries being cleared out, and say what you want about the players out there, they put the effort in and showed desire. Ole’s walking a tight-rope, but is doing so very well, I reckon.
Very intelligent approach considering the circumstances, he managed the game well.
Looking forward to see the kids against Astana, Greenwood and Gomes should start this.
Looking forward to see the kids against Astana, Greenwood and Gomes should start this.
Lampard has taken Chelsea into a rollercoaster season with youngsters considering axe wielding owner, that's a huge risk compare to comfy position Ole is in. I hope Ole starts giving youth more and more chance as Europa league starts.
My picks are Greenwood, Dylan Levitt, Gomes.
Chong is too raw to play at this level.
My picks are Greenwood, Dylan Levitt, Gomes.
Chong is too raw to play at this level.
I always back Ole but this kind of post is ridiculous
How many people said we need to play "old players"?
How many people said we need to win big? Most of them want a better-looking attack, and that's a fair request.
How many people said we need to play Messi or Ronaldo?
If our fan base are as bad as you said, why do you have to make stuff up?
Norwich beating City 3-1 and we can't beat trash like Soton, Wolves and Palace until we have at least 17 transfer windows.
They have a load of injuries as well.
City losing to trash like Norwich despite having multiple transfer windows and hundreds of millions spent.
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