If calling Ole a “cretin” is to go unchecked (and this sort of thing has for a while now) then constructive criticism of the dogshit moderating should be equally valued.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I get people wanting to back Jose, pedigree and a track record of success, Ole is just sad to watch.
Get a manager in who actually knows what they're doing and I'm all for giving them several seasons. You don't just give unlimited time to pot shots like Moyes and Ole.
If the club was well run for the previous six years, we would have sacked him. But with the state of the club, the recruitment or lack thereof and the inonsistency and/or lack of quality in the team, sacking the manager won't really achieve a great deal at this stage.
If he had never played for us there would be a lot more people wanting him gone, and I get that. Sometimes you have to think with your head though. He's not going to succeed here.
How long did he get at Cardiff? If Ole was at at any other big club bar Arsenal, he'd be gone by now.
If we're still playing shite come the end of the season with a full strength squad then I'll acknowledge that he hasn't done well.
It's a 2 year job minimum.
At least he's now playing the youngsters.
If he continues to play Matic twice a week then I will happily concede the point you're making.
At the moment tactically, the problem is the absolute fear the team has, confidence wise, to PLAY the ball in the final third between lines.
The passing was crisper side to side probing the wings and when we got the goal the lads became braver in their final third play.
If you keep redecorating your house with different builders you'll end up where we are now.
And by the way, I was happy to back LVG and Mourinho but not Moyes.
I'm not so sure how to feel about his managerial stint anymore.
On one hand I can't really blame him for our players missing absolute sitters - which had we converted, we would have won the game comfortably and we would have been 2nd or 3rd in the league. On the other hand, this has been going for far too long. I wonder are we even doing finishng practice!
The biggest issue is our squad depth. Sure we've cleared out deadwood but we haven't bought in anyone to replace them. So now our squad is just half of deadwood which is worse in a way. Out of form deadwood players have to play no matter what, unlike earlier when these players could have been replaced by another deadwood player but enjoying some luck on the pitch
On one hand I can't really blame him for our players missing absolute sitters - which had we converted, we would have won the game comfortably and we would have been 2nd or 3rd in the league. On the other hand, this has been going for far too long. I wonder are we even doing finishng practice!
The biggest issue is our squad depth. Sure we've cleared out deadwood but we haven't bought in anyone to replace them. So now our squad is just half of deadwood which is worse in a way. Out of form deadwood players have to play no matter what, unlike earlier when these players could have been replaced by another deadwood player but enjoying some luck on the pitch
I said that at the time. People disagreed on here.
It's fine to feel that way, but many of us can see where this headed. The football isn't even enjoyable and there is very little to get excited about with this United team. We are struggling to score goals and it seems that we are headed to our worst league finish if this continues. Woodward is a major issue, but Ole isn't helping himself with his tactics and game management.
Probably but I was trying to be more respectful. He's not up to the huge huge job.
Bring on the Saudis. Feck it. Our soul will be dirty but it's better than being trampled to death by Glazer scum.
What in the name of Zeus’ giant ballsack has he done to deserve such unwavering support?
We have been diabolical since fecking Match!!
I thought it wqs pretty clear I was being sarcastic...of course is Ole’s fault. He is way way out of his depth, low league manager, no style, no tactics, pure shit.
Supported him all the way and this is my first negative post on Ole....
Its not looking good is it. I can see his vision for players, he’s trimmed the squad down and wants to rebuild from scratch and for the first time in years it looks like we have a plan in place in terms of rebuilding the side..
But fecking hell everything on the pitch is absolutely dire. The tactics aren’t working, there’s no style of play and I don’t know what the fecks going on with fitness but like last season after he took over the players already look shot, they’re run into the ground after 10 games played.
I tell you what we’re finishing 10th this season, maybe lower. There’s nothing to suggest we’re putting a run together, infact it’s getting worse.
Its not looking good is it. I can see his vision for players, he’s trimmed the squad down and wants to rebuild from scratch and for the first time in years it looks like we have a plan in place in terms of rebuilding the side..
But fecking hell everything on the pitch is absolutely dire. The tactics aren’t working, there’s no style of play and I don’t know what the fecks going on with fitness but like last season after he took over the players already look shot, they’re run into the ground after 10 games played.
I tell you what we’re finishing 10th this season, maybe lower. There’s nothing to suggest we’re putting a run together, infact it’s getting worse.
Literally as soon as Phelan replaced Quieroz, our football under SAF started to get worse.
He's a dinosaur.
He should be sacked when Ole is.
Carrick and McKenna can go too.
Utter delusion. Ole the legend is a different entity to Ole the manager. People should be able to separate the two. He's a fraud as a manager. Hope he's gone tonight.
Then maybe we should sack Ole and hire a random fan, at least we'll save some millions on wages.
I’m not defending that performance. But I’m still prepared to wait out the season. I certainly didn’t defend Mourinho and Moyes either. But this squad is seriously poor and Ole needs time to sort it out.
We have one good midfielder at the club. There isn’t a manager around that can guarantee the sort of creativity we clearly want to see.
He will always be a club legend. He should never have been the club manager at least not until he had proven himself somewhere .
Lets remind you that Ole decided to sell a player who scored 28 goals 2 seasons ago to be replaced by the hugely overrated Rashford and the hugely lazy Martial .
He will be gone by mid November by which time we will be nearer the bottom of the league than the top
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I didnt mean it to come out as bragging on Ole's behalf, more towards the hope he may have better recruiting talent than his predecessors and thats something that will need time.
The fans were still chanting his name at the end of today's game. It's a strange bunch on here that resort to personal abuse, I don't really get it.
Ok. Barring any monumental long term injuries, I would put him getting sacked before May at 30 percent. if I'm wrong quote me
Pay attention to signings like Hannibal et al.
Answer this question honestly.
Of the following players, how many would be automatic starters for the top 10 clubs in the PL?
Chong, Periera, Lingard, Matic, Young, Mata and Fred. All of whom have started their fair share of games this season (injuries have contributed somewhat, admittedly) and will continue to do so for the remainder of the season.
And calling him a “cretin” remains the mark of a wanker. That isn’t separating the two. It’s just being a bellend.
How can we plan for a 3 year rebuild if all players and team aren't improving under Solskjear, fans do realise you actually have to have a good manager in charge to complete a successful rebuild?
This is so tough. Ole please resign if you feel the job is beyond you.
We should just be happy seeing clueless manager in charge and enjoy the ride I suppose. We have absolutely the worst manager in the league but it’s all good, we are entitled for expecting better from the club constantly calling itself as the “biggest club in the world”.I feel like if these results continue with both martial and Pogba back in the team he should be fired. Its so obvious Martial and Pogba make up our attack which is currently clueless without them. as much as I want to blame him for being clueless any manager would find it hard playing with Lingard as the main 10. A supporting cast of periera and chong only makes it worse.
It seems to me that they gave Ole the contract as they must have found out that there was no one else to take the job that summer.
You think that Maguire, AWB, if not James as well, were not already in motion as summer signings before Ole's permanent contract?
If Spurs have a bad season, and Poch doesn't fancy it anymore (which is very likely to happen) then United should jump at the chance of taking Poch. I'd say they knew he wasn't intent on leaving Spurs this past summer.
You think that Maguire, AWB, if not James as well, were not already in motion as summer signings before Ole's permanent contract?
If Spurs have a bad season, and Poch doesn't fancy it anymore (which is very likely to happen) then United should jump at the chance of taking Poch. I'd say they knew he wasn't intent on leaving Spurs this past summer.
AWB and Maguire doing well isn't a real surprise because they were already in the PL so the chances of them adapting well were high (of course you could use the Schneiderlin example but still, I think the point still stands). He only truly deserves credit for James for me.
Mate you can review the first 2 months of each of our signings in the last 5 years and you'll see they were great too. Darmian won POTM in his first month, Lukaku and Matic were machines that were supposed to fix all our problems after their first 2 months, Bailly was rock solid and our future in defense after his first few months, Di Maria, Blind, Depay, etc, etc.
Extending beyond end of last season was pure sentimental. You are appointing a manager who doesn't particularly excel in training ground work and keeping Phelan who is very similar was amateurish and emotional decision. Adding to that we have Carrick who has no experience in coaching at any level.
You're one weird poster.
This point is completely lost on the OLE IN crowd. Imagine basing our entire rebuild around him as our manager, it's bonkers, it was always bonkers and it continues to be bonkers.
TBH, all those finding all sorts of excuses for him really deserve to go through 3-4 years of this. Nothing teaches better than experience.
We used to win every league cup game under SAF.
Yup. Imagine losing 3 or 4 more games in the next 10 games. A fairly reasonable scenario. We look average vs mid table teams. If it happens, he is gone.
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Who is coming back into to the team that is going to make such a big difference?
I'd say only Greenwood looks semi good enough. Chong & Gomes don't look ready to me at all. He's only playing them because the transfer window went to shit, again.
I actually think he will.
And if you let a severely under qualified builder do some work on your home for a year just because you knew him in College then I would love to see the state of your house at the end of it.
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