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Oh really? Tell me more about my stance?Indeed, the irony is that if Ole had the managerial ability to win a League Cup, a Europa League or an FA Cup, it’d be the likes of you and Eriku etc who’d be the first to claim it was a great achievement and a signal that he was succeeding.
And of course, you’d be right… for the same reason that as of now, you’re wrong.
It is harder to deny the truth when someone with the pedigree of Blind says exactly what many supporters say.Why are some of you so salty about what Danny Blind said? Do all of you disagree with what he said in the interview then?
It is harder to deny the truth when someone with the pedigree of Blind says exactly what many supporters say.
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Well, it would help if he could actually do the job himself well.It is harder to deny the truth when someone with the pedigree of Blind says exactly what many supporters say.
Erm, you do know that this would be *equally* relevant to OGS, don't you? You do know that, right? Please tell me you know that. Please?Excellent footballer. European cup winner. But what would he know.
Now, the manager relegated and sacked by Cardiff - That's a different story!
But can Daley Blind do it on a rainy day at Molde?It’s an official term, as most football fans with even a moderate amount of intellect know…
The Europa League, FA Cup and League Cup are major trophies - as are the PL and CL.
It means ‘proper trophy’ - google ‘major football trophies’ and a suitably simple explanation should arrive pretty swiftly.
Yes, I do. And that means he may be able to understand and analyze as well as Blind. Just like he might not be right for management in this level, just like Blind.Erm, you do know that this would be *equally* relevant to OGS, don't you? You do know that, right? Please tell me you know that. Please?
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Let's wait and see on that one considering he's already outperformed and set the club in much better foundations than two of the best European club managers in the last 40 years.Yes, I do. And that means he may be able to understand and analyze as well as Blind. Just like he might not be right for management in this level, just like Blind.
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Good read
He has said basically what I have been saying. Ole isn't up to it but the available options have serious questionatks about being the right fit. Better to wait until you can get the right man.This was a bit of a strange interview. I agree with pretty much everything Blind has said here, but then the last line he says that no matter what you think of Ole now isn't the time to change, which is weird if you read the rest of the interview he's basically saying Ole isn't up to it without using those words.
What does his performance as a manager have to do with him commenting on Ole? Does he have to be a better manager to comment?
Are they the only managers in world football that aren’t “poor”?It’s very stupid that people are saying because Blind was a poor manager that he can’t comment on another underperforming manager. By that logic only Pep, Klopp, Conte and Zidane can judge the performance of another manager?
Exactly. I'm not sure how relevant posting Blind's quotes multiple times in here is, I broadly agree with him without needing someone with his status to back up my opinion but suggesting it has no basis because he wasn't a good manager himself or worse than Frank De Boer would indicate that nobody on here is worthy of giving an opinion.It’s very stupid that people are saying because Blind was a poor manager that he can’t comment on another underperforming manager. By that logic only Pep, Klopp, Conte and Zidane can judge the performance of another manager?
I’m trying to understand the level you need to be at to comment on the performance of another manager.Are they the only managers in world football that aren’t “poor”?
Again - So what? So if your not a great manager - or had one bad international stint - you cannot understand football?
I think the point is there isn’t really a criteria you need to reach to comment on other managers performances, more a case of the opposite - that when you’ve been demonstrably bad at managing yourself you reach a criteria that disqualifies you from critiquing others.I’m trying to understand the level you need to be at to comment on the performance of another manager.
Do you have to have won a league?
Saved your team from relegation?
Won a cup?
What’s the criteria? I’m asking because people said the same thing about Neville, that he should not comment on Ole because his tenure at Valencia was a disaster.
I disagree. Just because someone wasn’t a good manager doesn’t disqualify you from critiquing others. Again Neville was one of the best defenders around for 20 years, played under the best manager in the world. Just because he failed as a manager that doesn’t mean he can’t criticize someone else. I’m not seeing why those two things are meant to be connected.I think the point is there isn’t really a criteria you need to reach to comment on other managers performances, more a case of the opposite - that when you’ve been demonstrably bad at managing yourself you reach a criteria that disqualifies you from critiquing others.
You don't have to be a good manager to criticise another manager. What he said is hardly unpopular.Tweet
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As people told you, you don't need to be a top manager to understand football or that a manager isn't doing his job very well. Same as you don't need to be an actual filmmaker to understand if the movie you're watching is crap or not. And let's not talk about managerial legacies because Ole isn't the shiniest of examples you could pick from.Erm, you do know that this would be *equally* relevant to OGS, don't you? You do know that, right? Please tell me you know that. Please?
Danny Blind has been a serial failure as a Manager. It's laughable he thinks he's in a position to give a critique on any other Managers. It's also highly unprofessional to publicly attack a Manager in this way - and he's doing it because he's got a vested interest in trying to get Donny playing (or a transfer) so he's useful for the Netherlands. It's not objective criticism.Ah...that’s the spirit...find any reason not to focus on the fact that we can’t actually argue with any of what he said...that will move is forward!
I believe Blind had two stints as manager within about a decade, one at Ajax and the other in the national team. I wouldn't call that a 'serial failure'. Certainly not one that makes his views on football, footballing coaching and footballer coaches irrelevant.Danny Blind has been a serial failure as a Manager. It's laughable he thinks he's in a position to give a critique on any other Managers. It's also highly unprofessional to publicly attack a Manager in this way - and he's doing it because he's got a vested interest in trying to get Donny playing (or a transfer) so he's useful for the Netherlands. It's not objective criticism.
Any Manager that fails to win the league at Ajax is considered a failure.I believe Blind had two stints as manager within about a decade, one at Ajax and the other in the national team. I wouldn't call that a 'serial failure'. Certainly not one that makes his views on football, footballing coaching and footballer coaches irrelevant.
I also firmly the believe that the cult of Solskjaer would find a way to dimish the value of opinion of anyone who would voice something criticising our football.
That would all depend if you're an inner or an outer because between the 2 groups there'll be vastly different answers.Does Ole deserve the sack if we are 10+ points below league leaders come January, or do we still consider ourselves to be title challengers?
That's exactly what I mean when I say people will always find a way to rule out the opinion of anyone who criticises Solskjaer. There's absolutely no way of telling if VDB is a factor in his thoughts at all.And you've managed to ignore the points I've made about it being unprofessional for him to attack a Manager in this way in the media, he is not objective due to his vested interest, and the comparison to City is ridiculous.
You don't need to be a successful film director to tell that a movie stinks. Understanding basic nuances of a subject matter and been successfully implemented it can be two different things. That is how critics work, be it movies, books, sports, painting etc.Tweet
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Such great managerial pedigree...
Think the In group have already absolved him of failing to challenge this season.That would all depend if you're an inner or an outer because between the 2 groups there'll be vastly different answers.