Will they? I remember the same thing with Liverpool and Klopp. They where very inconsistent before all pars where in place. Last piece of the puzzle was the midfield. Same with City. Pep was being found out by premier league before he got his last peice of the puzzle. People have short memory.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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In 1 half of 1 game... oh wait I forgot how this forum works, you have a decent half in 1 match or maybe 1 decent match in 10 overall and that absolves you of the dross you put out on the regular, infact the higher ups seem to agree with this forum because all it ever does is give these average players new contracts so, you're right maybe I am in the wrong
Pep and Klopp had history of success and earned patience. Besides, it was obvious from the start what are they working towards in terms of playing style. Pep won the league in his second season. Klopp inherited a team that was midtable and was 6th the season before - so in worst state than United after Mourinho. In his first full season Klopp returned Liverpool to top four and reached Europa League final. In his second full season he reached CL final. And the progress was there to see. Once he got better players the transition was complete. In his third full season they were great. Whereas with Ole now in his third full season we got better players - but are playing worse than last season. And he does not have remotely comparable CV to those two to suggest that he could bring us forward.
To be fair, Dalglish did not suck as manager. Won three leagues and a few other trophies.
I guess it depends how long Ole remains as manager. If gets sacked quickly, probably is all gonna fine. If the misery continues for another couple of seasons, he’ll be closer to our Souness than our Dalglish. And most of Liverpool fans do not like Souness.
Yeah you’ve absolutely nailed this forum mate. One half game and everyone is super optimistic and overrating all of our players again. Beaming with optimism. Glass half full. Sunshine and light.
I obviously meant Dalglish being their manager for the 2nd time.
And again, Ole as manager won’t have anything to do with Ole’s legendary status as a player, regardless of if he is getting sacked soon or not.
Of course, it will. As currently Ole's status as a manager is related to his status as a legendary player. Otherwise, he would not have got the job here in the first place, and would have got significantly less support.
You might like it to be like that, but again it won’t. The treble is a unique achievement not only in United’s history but also in England and his goal sealed it in dramatic fashion. Unless United fans are willing to erase this from memory Ole will always remain a legend.
No one likes Sourness. No one.
His dentist likes him.
Those Bruno quotes are pretty interesting. It's impossible not to see that he's demanding improvement from the coaching staff and manager. Surprised it's not generated a new thread and discussion - any doubt about the veracity of the interview?
Completely agree.Lampard will always be remembered for his playing days, not the inexperienced manager in way over his head.
Nobody bothered to ask Wenger what he thought about Fred’s first half performance so it didn’t happen
That is because he was sacked before he could ruin the whole thing. When Robson was having a hard time at Boro they brought in Terry Venables to help him out. United could have done with someone like Quiroz to help him instead of Phelan who did not have a good reputation as a coach.
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Telling United fans to stop moaning, downplaying title hopes, he just can't handle the pressure and wants to keep expectations low.
He was saying we needed to contend for the title this season before it even started though? Seems like a man who realised he isn't good enough and is back tracking now
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I will back Ole until the club get rid but I need to remember not to watch his press conferences as they make me feel very negative towards him.
What exactly is he doing the last 3 years if he feels we need more to catch up with Liverpool. I can bet he will be parroting the same line next season too even if we get a prime Makelele for him in midfield.
I think this is it too. Ole is very clever with downplaying standards while using the right buzzwords. He twice mentioned we are trying to reach Liverpool level and we only finished above then last year due to injuries. Nothing has changed from last year even with all the signings and talk of progress.
He's talks the same rubbish that David Moyes used to and he's becoming just as irritating.
Quiroz is more qualified to manage United than Solskjaer is. Why would he work as his assistant?
So Ole supporters are hailing us finishing 2nd last season as some great achievement and Ole himself admits that we were lucky to do so. How ironic
So was Terry Venables compared to Bryan Robson.
How on earth to the players find inspiration in him. Always talking nothing.
Haven't seen the full presser but as a standalone comment with 3 seasons in its pretty bad
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I can see why people are disappointed in this line. But equally, people on here would ridicule him if he said we are in the title race.
He's probably just trying to deflect pressure from the players before the big game against Liverpool.
It's basic self preservation. Reduce pressure and expectations so the job he is doing looks better.
What ever he said would be wrong
You could say that for individual statements but there is a consistent pattern with Ole. He said similar last year when we were top in January with a home game against Sheffield united to come.
Anyways a win this Sunday will help his case massively and give the side much needed momentum and belief heading into this tough run. A loss and it could all come tumbling down. Probably get a draw.
Mental midget.
Man for man you wouldn’t say Chelsea are better than our squad overall yet their play is substantially superior. They are so much more cohesive in their play, third and even fourth players making runs and receiving the ball in threatening positions. United, on the other hand, show no cohesion at all, each player wondering what to do with the ball once they receive it, the other 9 outfield players watching, wondering the same.
I came to the conclusion late, but we clearly need a manage who can instill in the players cohesion, coordinated purpose.
I came to the conclusion late, but we clearly need a manage who can instill in the players cohesion, coordinated purpose.
Results have to do the talking now, if he spoke about us being in a title race it would be comical at the moment but his tried and tested rebuild/reboot lines have expired now. It’s put up or shut up.
This is the thing. All anyone needs to look how important coaching is, is to look how bad Chelsea played with Lampard and how well they play now post-Lampard. The difference in quality is night and day and the players are the same. Their defence organization is unbelievable, Tuchel has truly transformed that backline into an absolute class with bang average players.
We still sit here and talk about how Ronaldo's pressing is basically making us lose when Lukaku has similar pressing stats and it doesn't seem to hurt Chelsea at all. They've barely conceded 3 goals this season, even playing 10 men against Liverpool. In contrast, we concede every game with a backline of Varane-Maguire. It's a joke how undercoached this team is.
Not surprised by this tbh, we still need a 'DM' and a 'RB', then we'll need another CB a striker. Rinse and repeat.
Some quotes from Peter Schmeichel: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...tml?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
I don't agree with him, I'm just posting what he's said.
''You can say 'Conte is brilliant' but he doesn't hang around for more than a couple of years. We are not that football club. We tried that already. It doesn't work. Louis van Gaal didn't win the Premier League, Mourinho didn't. You say Conte or another name, it's no difference. It's about them and what they want to do in a small window of Manchester United's big history. The problem Ole has is that in this world of quick fixes and fast news he has to win yesterday. It has to be delivered now. But it's not the real world. We stopped that development for a period and our competitors closed the gap then ran away.'
I don't agree with him, I'm just posting what he's said.
''You can say 'Conte is brilliant' but he doesn't hang around for more than a couple of years. We are not that football club. We tried that already. It doesn't work. Louis van Gaal didn't win the Premier League, Mourinho didn't. You say Conte or another name, it's no difference. It's about them and what they want to do in a small window of Manchester United's big history. The problem Ole has is that in this world of quick fixes and fast news he has to win yesterday. It has to be delivered now. But it's not the real world. We stopped that development for a period and our competitors closed the gap then ran away.'
Once again lowering expectations so he can ease the preassure on him. The eternal rebuild, sorry for all the Ole fans but once again with comments like this he shows he's not a winner.
How can players find motivation from him? Same as last January when he down played our chances of winning the title.
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