Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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It's feckin bizarre. It's like our fans can't let go of him. He failed. There's other highly competent world class professionals in the world. But we want to stick with ex footballers as if that's a qualification.

I wish this whole club and its fanbase could completely let go of nostalgia and the doe eyed looking on our ex players and create some new direction.
How did we not try that with LVG and Jose?
 
Bloody Hell, no one wants us (apart from Conte, which is a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion sure he would win us titles but he would rip apart the culture of the club, that Ole has done so well to bring back)
The three mentioned were never going to be interested when a WC is around the corner.
 
Real shame about Enrique but trying to lure any National team manager with a World Cup coming up was always going to be immensely difficult.

I have the same thoughts about Mancini. I think Mancini would do well with our current squad.

No way any national team manager would be interested right now though. They've been building up to Qatar for the last three years and to give it all up would be a big ask.
 
Bloody Hell, no one wants us (apart from Conte, which is a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion sure he would win us titles but he would rip apart the culture of the club, that Ole has done so well to bring back)
Look like the myth is broken (everyone want to manage United)
 
Bloody Hell, no one wants us (apart from Conte, which is a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion sure he would win us titles but he would rip apart the culture of the club, that Ole has done so well to bring back)
If we appoint the wrong manager I think the team will fall apart regardless, Pogba's probably gone unless we look like challenging immediately, Ronaldo will leave if we're not in CL and Cavani took a lot of convincing to give us 1 more season. Only way we prevent this team falling to pieces, is if we have someone who can immediately get them functioning and doesn't need another 3 years to build a competitive side, which, in my opinion, ours is already more than capable of being.
 
Club is run by clueless morons. Great manager that he was, reports that Fergie supports Ole show just how backwards looking and nostalgic club has become. This is the guy that chose Moyes, despite Gill telling everyone the club had learnt from past succession issues and had a plan (he clearly lied). The Europa final should have been curtains, a spineless display and gutless management. Then we have the lucky comebacks this season before the inevitable hiding. Players clearly losing faith. Chelsea show what decisive decision making by an owner who wants to win trophies can achieve.
Chelsea won their only 2 CLs by acting swiftly.
 
Odd situation for the players, they bounce back play well and can keep the guy they want gone in a job or let some more results slip. I'd imagine looking at how United are bottom of the league player stats we might see more wandering around, lack of tackles. Son and Kane could easily exploit that.
 
What he should do, and I'm being serious, is build a team out of all the players who are grumbling about him always starting his favourites. Start Donny, Lingard, Matic, Bailey, Sancho, Amad and whoever else feels they haven't been given a fair chance and say to them - go on then, get out there and make me look a fool by thrashing Spurs. Show me and the rest of the world how dumb I've been by overlooking you week after week.

Just turn everything on its head for the next few games and see what happens. It can't get any worse.
 
You can't hate the club, over not sacking a manager. The club is bigger than that, just gonna have to stick with it now and ride this out and see where it goes.

Look at it this way, whatever way it goes, there's going to be an end to this mood soon.

We get a rocket up the ass and we start actually playing well and everyone is happy and we climb the table.

Or

We lose a few more matches and Ole inevitably gets the sack.

It can't and won't go on like this until the end of the season.

Even if we start winning, we’ll always revert back to this type of form under Ole. This is the problem, we’ll never reach the next level under him.
 
Odd situation for the players, they bounce back play well and can keep the guy they want gone in a job or let some more results slip. I'd imagine looking at how United are bottom of the league player stats we might see more wandering around, lack of tackles. Son and Kane could easily exploit that.
I’m not sure Kane moves much more than our lot mind :lol:
 
Even if we start winning, we’ll always revert back to this type of form under Ole. This is the problem, we’ll never reach the next level under him.

Rollercoaster, it always has been.

Go on a fantastic run of getting good results. Go on an abysmal run of getting disappointing results. Go on a fantastic run.....

Rinse and repeat.
 
I’m not sure Kane moves much more than our lot mind :lol:

Been saving himself like those Leicester players.

Son can do the work, all Harry has to do is hobble around the box inbetween Maguire and Shaw. McTom will be slowly jogging back watching the strikes.
 
Oh yeah, let's throw away another 2 games just to wait for the international break. That will show them.
 
They think humiliation from Liverpool was not enough, they want to get a battering from City too.
 
Bloody Hell, no one wants us (apart from Conte, which is a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion sure he would win us titles but he would rip apart the culture of the club, that Ole has done so well to bring back)

The culture is as bad as it’s ever been, huge job for next manager to correct it, Ole failed miserably there.
 
So they don't want Conte, which I can understand, and Ole will obviously be sacked over the next few weeks as he continues to not deliver results. We will need an interim coach to see out the season - who are the candidates?
 
Bloody Hell, no one wants us (apart from Conte, which is a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion sure he would win us titles but he would rip apart the culture of the club, that Ole has done so well to bring back)

Honestly, if our options are limited to just Conte or to keep on Ole until a good replacement (Ten Haag) is identified and agreed with, I see the latter as the lesser of two evils.

Of course that depends on whether or not Ole still have the trust of the squad. If he doesn't then litteraly anyone else with a coaching badge would be a better option.
 
I wonder if the issue is more to do with the coaches not being able to implement Ole's ideas? As far as I understand, Phelan and Ole watch training from the sidelines (like Ferguson did), and leave the training to Carrick and McKenna, who are both learning on the job. Do they have the know-how to put into effect Ole's plans? I don't know anything about what our training looks like, but I've seen snippets of Guardiola conducting training sessions based on the model of football he wants played and I wonder if Carrick and McKenna are able to do the same. Ferguson outsourced this to others e.g. Queiroz. Perhaps we need a specialist coach and let Ole focus on man management, which I would guess is more in line with his skill set.
 
Bloody Hell, no one wants us (apart from Conte, which is a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion sure he would win us titles but he would rip apart the culture of the club, that Ole has done so well to bring back)
We don't have currently a club culture that's working. If the final result of all this work behind the scenes doesn't translate itself on the pitcj after 3 years then it's just wrong.
 
It's feckin bizarre. It's like our fans can't let go of him. He failed. There's other highly competent world class professionals in the world. But we want to stick with ex footballers as if that's a qualification.

I wish this whole club and its fanbase could completely let go of nostalgia and the doe eyed looking on our ex players and create some new direction.
Our past success and the foundation it was built on is actually what's hurting the club currently. What was done before is extraordinary but it doesn't mean it can work now nor that it has to tried again and again till the end of times
 

Jesus Christ. Martin Edwards is there too.

We know how this is gonna end. It worked for Fergie, so it will work for Ole, just give him another three years.

We are a pathetic joke of a club. The worst run club in modern football.
 
If we appoint the wrong manager I think the team will fall apart regardless, Pogba's probably gone unless we look like challenging immediately, Ronaldo will leave if we're not in CL and Cavani took a lot of convincing to give us 1 more season. Only way we prevent this team falling to pieces, is if we have someone who can immediately get them functioning and doesn't need another 3 years to build a competitive side, which, in my opinion, ours is already more than capable of being.
Pogba and Ronaldo leaving may not be a bad thing .
 
Bloody Hell, no one wants us (apart from Conte, which is a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion sure he would win us titles but he would rip apart the culture of the club, that Ole has done so well to bring back)

Enrique, Deschamps and Mancini all have a chance to go to the world cup as genuine contenders with squads they have built over the years. I can understand why none of them want to give that up now and take over a club midseason.
 
Seriously having no manager for the next 3 games would be better than keeping Ole on.

I thought I would never say this but Fergie is now hurting the club directly.
 
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