Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

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laughtersassassin

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I don’t think a 2-0 defeat against City will be considered that bad, when combined with the Spurs win and an away draw midweek. Think Ole has ridden out the storm.
If our current form is Ole having rode out the storm then One has the easiest job in world football.

He has one of the best squads in the world.

It is very difficult to do as shite as he is doing
 

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He is not getting sacked. If it took that long for majority of football loving fans (post pool game) to see he is a shite manager then how come the bankers would see that he is a shite manager just yet ? For them it’s still early. It would have to be a lot worse before he gets sacked and even then I’m not sure given how much backing he has within the club from former players to Fergie.
They know numbers, they just have to look at the table. 4/18 points is terrible !
 

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It was quiet from the press after the Liverpool game. Then in Monday came a deluge of journos saying that we're considering sacking him. I think it being quiet is potentially a good thing. I'm hoping beyond hope now. Just put us out of our misery and let us relax over the international break.
 

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The squad needs thinning in any case. ;)
He would be able to work with the likes of Ronaldo who is driven.

The worse thing we can do is to jump at the first available long term manager.
I feel quite confident that the worst thing we can do is hire Roy Keane for any position in the club.

I'd get a Roy Keane look-alike in before going for Roy Keane.
 

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Did he really build up so much credit for that win against Spurs? A jammy draw against Atalanta and another humiliating loss in a derby doesn't matter.

All that matters is he managed to beat one of the few managers in the league who is more negative than him.
In the aftermath of the Liverpool game some journos said the Glazers are concerned and expect to see tactical and technical improvement over these next 3 games. We've seen none. Only regression and Ole showing himself up even more.
 

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In the aftermath of the Liverpool game some journos said the Glazers are concerned and expect to see tactical and technical improvement over these next 3 games. We've seen none. Only regression and Ole showing himself up even more.
To the Glazers getting a draw against Atalanta and beating Tottenham 3-0 might be considered to them as David beating Goliath or something. They know jack shit about football and the people they've put in charge are of a similar vein, just a bunch of cronies.
 

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After the complete embarrassment against Liverpool, a result like this will be considered a narrow loss and no questions will be asked about sacking or anything of the sort. Once he survived that match he was safe for at least this season.
 

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Interesting that all the journos that said he had three games haven't said anything yet. Obviously no word from the club yet as to how the view these 3 games.
Does the first game even count? Ole beat a team who went on to sack the manager for losing to him.

That's a moral loss in my eyes.
 
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Chelsea shooting up the table is almost by default since the likes of Villa and Everton have fallen away badly. They are 4 points above 6th ffs despite Tuchel being here 3 months already. The reason Liverpool didnt go up many spots is because there wasnt shit in front of them to fall away.
We are also talking about the end result of Liverpool and that Jose season v todays Chelsea season that isnt even finished. I have no idea how both can be compared when Chelsea are actually teetering on having a disasterous season when its all said and done. Pretending its the same argument is ridiculous. That second placed finish was a fluke as was proven either side if it. Meanwhile its 2 top 4 finishes in a row and proof Ole can sustain it over multiple seasons
This turned out well eh @cyberman ?

Was clear as day Chelsea were on a similar trajectory to Liverpool, and that we were fluking 2nd because of Lampard and a freak off season from Liverpool.

To claim Mourinho’s 2nd place a fluke yet pretending Ole’s was something completely different was such ridiculous levels of confirmation bias I just had to bookmark that one.
No surprise at all to me that 7 months later and CL winners Chelsea are top of the league and Liverpool close behind, whilst we’re looking like our luck ran out, worse than Mourinho’s third season in fact, despite a miles better transfer window.

This Ole experiment has always been just that, an exercise in testing whether an unqualified manager with no real tactical or top level coaching expertise could match the very best if just given time and money money money. It’s needs fecking off, yesterday, experiment over.
 
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To the Glazers getting a draw against Atalanta and beating Tottenham 3-0 might be considered to them as David beating Goliath or something. They know jack shit about football and the people they've put in charge are of a similar vein, just a bunch of cronies.
If hope not, given their investment and the team we have. They must have a reliable person at the club that reports on this shit, that does know what they're doing.
 

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If hope not, given their investment and the team we have. They must have a reliable person at the club that reports on this shit, that does know what they're doing.
What investment? Unlike Roman or the City owners these parasites haven't put a penny of their own into the club. They don't care that we're not a competitive elite team anymore so long as they get their dividends every year and Ole is there to soak up all the vitriol.
 

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Does the first game even count? Ole beat a team who went on to sack the manager for losing to him.

That's a moral loss in my eyes.
When you consider the context it was shown to be no real feat. If anybody with eyes watched the second game then they'd see that we didn't even deserve a point against a tier 2/3 Serie A team, worth a fraction of ours.

Honestly it makes my head spin to think that anybody at the club as willing to risk continuing this for the season.
 

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What investment? Unlike Roman or the City owners these parasites haven't put a penny of their own into the club. They don't care that we're not a competitive elite team anymore so long as they get their dividends every year and Ole is there to soak up all the vitriol.
You know what I mean. We've spent big and got in some big names, they were apparently expecting a PL challenge this year.
 

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What investment? Unlike Roman or the City owners these parasites haven't put a penny of their own into the club. They don't care that we're not a competitive elite team anymore so long as they get their dividends every year and Ole is there to soak up all the vitriol.
Yup the only thing they care about is the value of the club. They don't give two shits if the club increases debt or loses money for a few years. As long as the value of the club isn't tanking they don't care about anything.
 

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You know what I mean. We've spent big and got in some big names, they were apparently expecting a PL challenge this year.
They spent big this summer because the fan protests were beginning to heat up again after the Super League debacle, and with the Liverpool game cancelled last year they were bricking it. It was merely appeasement.
 

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He hasn't got a clue. We started with 5 at the back and let city have the initiative. If DeGea didn't have a great game we would have been 0-5 down by halftime.
How on Earth can anyone think he is good enough?
 

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Before I used to hate international breaks because it made me miss football. Ole has made these 2 weeks the time I enjoy myself the most regarding football every season. Feels great to not watch this shit show and not worry about anything regarding this pathetic team for whole 2 weeks.

Ole has completely killed my interest in football.
 

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Can’t think of a single big club across Europe where he would have stayed on so long. Likes of Madrid & Chelsea would have sacked him ages ago. It just defies belief that he is still here.
 

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What investment? Unlike Roman or the City owners these parasites haven't put a penny of their own into the club. They don't care that we're not a competitive elite team anymore so long as they get their dividends every year and Ole is there to soak up all the vitriol.
I'm not going to defend the Glazers because I agree they're parasites. But we've spent a lot of money on transfers, we get very little transfer income because anyone who leaves these days is damaged goods. Ole has been given more than enough money to expect some kind of style or tactical theme to be appearing, but there just isn't any.
 

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Interesting that all the journos that said he had three games haven't said anything yet. Obviously no word from the club yet as to how the view these 3 games.
4 points is the safe zone for him from those 3 games.

A comfortable win against Spurs, a point that keeps us in a good position in the CL and a disappointing loss to City.

Just enough to keep fans nice and placated, he was applauded off today.
 

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In the aftermath of the Liverpool game some journos said the Glazers are concerned and expect to see tactical and technical improvement over these next 3 games. We've seen none. Only regression and Ole showing himself up even more.
We're run by simpletons so it's hard to guess what decision they've arrived at from these three games. I guess we'll know soon enough.
 

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It’s clear to literally everyone now that Ole’s finished. Surely even a board as incompetent as ours can see that now as well? It’s got to the point where anyone else not named Solskjaer would get this team playing better.
 

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Does anyone actually truly believe we will sack Solskjaer after that?

Seems a non brainer, yet I can’t see it happening. Delaying the inevitable of course
 

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The squad needs thinning in any case. ;)
He would be able to work with the likes of Ronaldo who is driven.

The worse thing we can do is to jump at the first available long term manager.
He’d be able to work with one of the greatest player in the world? So can ole and he needs to go.
The squad doesn’t need thining, it needs a good manager that knows when to plays his star players and how to keep the squad players motivated and hungry so they don’t look like they’re still in preseason when called upon
 

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What investment? Unlike Roman or the City owners these parasites haven't put a penny of their own into the club. They don't care that we're not a competitive elite team anymore so long as they get their dividends every year and Ole is there to soak up all the vitriol.
We’ve spent shit loads recently
Not as much as we could of. But more than enough to be title contenders rather than mid table
 

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Fletcher can go jump off a cliff (not literally, of course). Ragnick is far more capable than him of developing a club and he is the right guy we need. He'll also be completely fine in taking a backseat after a season to be in charge of the more technical areas of the club. A fact that will save a lot of money for the club and especially the Glazers.
On point, if the Glazers are going to be successful at this football thing they need to cut the legends of this club adrift and bring in some new ideas Pronto. They just need to take a look at Liverpool and see what having the right people in charge can do.

The biggest worry is that if left to Arnold, Woodward and Fergie they are just going to bump into another pretender or someone on the way down like we did with Mourinho whilst Ragnick can steady the ship, lay the groundwork for a more progressive coach and be able to identify that progressive coach.

Teams don't need multi year rebuilds when they can easily drop £200m on four players, all that is needed is to have someone who knows what he is doing. Murtough, by the way he has skirted responsibility on this, clearly isn't the guy. Gut all the British contingent out of the executive roles they got via nepotism and go for the best in class. This club is too big to degenerate into a meme club.
 
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