Something we should have done a long time ago.
Yeah, hire their IT specialist would work.
They hijacked utd for Caicedo.
I hope we start doing this sort of thing. Man City are doing it constantly with their network of clubs across the world.
Not a bad idea. That could help the Todibo's deal also.
Didn't we just, in all our wisdom, turn him down for something paltry like £5m? Hardly hijacked.
We approached him then Brighton followed. Whilst we were having difficulty with the nature of it, they were much more familiar with the process due to a similar signing the previous summer, and made the advancement before we could (I think).
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There was a third part ownership situation if my memory serves me. For a player that cheap it would have been quite easy to pay them off. We just aren’t very good at signing good players on the cheap.
Yea, I seem to remember it was issues around third party ownership or something. Either way, it wasn’t that we hadn’t scouted him properly or weren’t interested.
Brighton had previously worked with his many agents, making the deal easier for them to get over the line.
Hardly as simple as that. The South American countries, especially outside of Argentina and Brazil, is a nightmare transfer dealings if you don't shop there regularly. That's part of the reason so many move to Argentina/Brazil before Europe.
There's also thisThe Athletic said:
Appreciate the detail but nothing here changes what I said. I have no doubt it's harder to deal with some of these leagues/agents but the mooted fee for Caicedo was so comparatively small, you can't be telling me that United turned down signing someone they wanted for £4.5m (the fee Brighton paid) because they found it "difficult". From other replies above, I assume the scouts didn't rate him high enough or we were just wary of the 3rd party ownership piece.
how about Nice sign him and loan him to Utd
the kid can see a pass that's for sure
It’s true too!
Sounds like the kind of thing we’d end up getting fined for
Nice are going to be most likely playing in the champions league next season.
Going by South American transfers outside of ARG/BRA, I think clubs can very easily drop a player they want of transfer complications, or that they end up having such a slow process that other clubs get the signing done before you even get in front of the right representatives. It's a huge advantage to have good relations with clubs, and to actually travel for the meetings. But yeah, very much possible in this case that scouts just didn't rate him that highly too, but there were like 8 clubs reportedly in for him at the time. There's a lot of bullshit you have to trundle through with agents from smaller leagues, it could end up costing a lot of money.
Yes they seem a very good team - I'm basing that of what you're saying (not going to pretend I follow the Ecuadorian league, SA domestic comps outside of the Copa) and it will be interesting with so much money flowing into the sport if we start to see more 'big' clubs start to comb through these so called lesser leagues. It does make me wonder where the good younger English DM/CM types are, we obviously have Mainoo, Brighton have Hinshelwood, there's that Wright kid at City but it does seem an area we don't produce great players in.
I mostly watch Brazilian league + Argentinian league and the continental competitions which is where I've seen IDV play. They were in a group with Flamengo (who I follow) a few years ago. Caicedo played there at the time.
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