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Eastwood later films as a director are brilliant because they perfectly capture the ideology of the modern american conservative into a movie under 3 hours. American Sniper is basically a white nationalist propaganda film that wouldn't look out place in 1940's Germany. Chris Kyle is portrayed as the supreme white super solider, who's the only one protecting ''freedom'', the US military throughout the film is less seen as an army at war but more a weaponised police force, it encapsulates what american mean when they talk about having to be the policeman of the world. Gran Torino and Richard Jewel are movies that express how republican voters view themselves to the wider american population - As fantasy strong armed 70 year olds going around beating up ethic minorities(In the name of civility) and at the same well meaningfully fat civilians who are completely powerless against the american government, who is conspiring against them at every turn. Both are Qanon films.

So I'm not sure how Eastwood later movies can be seen as overrated. He has an idea, a certain way of viewing the world and he follows thought with it. It might be not something we agree with or find entertaining but thats not really the point.
 

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You made me curious so I checked his IMDB profile. Holy shit! He's directed 41 films in less than 50 years. He must be a workaholic. I've only seen 3 movies of his: Letters From Iwo Jima, Gran Torino and American Sniper. Good, decent, meh.

Million Dollar Baby is on my to-watch list.
Pop Unforgiven on there while your at it
 

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Eastwood later films as a director are brilliant because they perfectly capture the ideology of the modern american conservative into a movie under 3 hours. American Sniper is basically a white nationalist propaganda film that wouldn't look out place in 1940's Germany. Chris Kyle is portrayed as the supreme white super solider, who's the only one protecting ''freedom'', the US military throughout the film is less seen as an army at war but more a weaponised police force, it encapsulates what american mean when they talk about having to be the policeman of the world. Gran Torino and Richard Jewel are movies that express how republican voters view themselves to the wider american population - As fantasy strong armed 70 year olds going around beating up ethic minorities(In the name of civility) and at the same well meaningfully fat civilians who are completely powerless against the american government, who is conspiring against them at every turn. Both are Qanon films.

So I'm not sure how Eastwood later movies can be seen as overrated. He has an idea, a certain way of viewing the world and he follows thought with it. It might be not something we agree with or find entertaining but thats not really the point.
Spot on. I absolutely hate that movie. If they toned down the whole "Greatest country in the world" and "freedom" narrative, it might have been a decent watch, but as a non-american it became unbearable and weird.

I get your point that to why his films are brilliant, and I actually like a lot of his films (Gran Torino and Million Dollar Baby especially), but American Sniper was nothing other than a high-budget propaganda film as you say.
 

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The Sting. No idea why everyone (my dad) says it's a classic. In the last week I've watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Bridge on the River Kwai, Unforgiven and this cheesy buddy movie and for my dad to put it in the same category as those truly great movies and recommend it is disgusting. I've disowned him for doing it and ensured that his travel visa is blocked by the relevant authorities.

I also didn't like Lawrence of Arabia but that's because I was only half watching it and I don't like camels....dumb gimps who look like a child's drawing of a horse.
 

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This is probably an opinion that will be ridiculed but

Jaws -
Watched this recently for the first time since probably the 90’s and it was cartoony and hammy.
I think it’s aged badly, which isn’t a fault of the film but with advancements in technology, but it was difficult to take this cartoony looking shark seriously. The acting was hammy and inconsistent. Didn’t think much of the plot either.
 

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American Sniper is basically a white nationalist propaganda film that wouldn't look out place in 1940's Germany. Chris Kyle is portrayed as the supreme white super solider, who's the only one protecting ''freedom'', the US military throughout the film is less seen as an army at war but more a weaponised police force, it encapsulates what american mean when they talk about having to be the policeman of the world.
Couldnt have said it better myself.
 

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As a good starting point, all you need to do is just compile a list of about 75% of all the Oscar noms and winners from the last 25 years.

Unforgiven must have been one of the biggest travesties and examples of sociopolitical pandering in the film industry that I can remember in recent times.
 

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This is probably an opinion that will be ridiculed but

Jaws -
Watched this recently for the first time since probably the 90’s and it was cartoony and hammy.
I think it’s aged badly, which isn’t a fault of the film but with advancements in technology, but it was difficult to take this cartoony looking shark seriously. The acting was hammy and inconsistent. Didn’t think much of the plot either.
Aren't most of the shots, footage of real sharks(I think spielberg actually used smaller divers and shark cages to make the great whites look even bigger)? Still you're right about prop shark looking a bit naff but as you mentioned it was the 70's but also who really gives a shit. Having watched it recently due to the lockdown, the thing that should out was the ''debate'' about if they should close the beach or keep it open due to how dependent the town economy is on tourism.


 
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Aren't most of the shots, footage of real sharks(I think spielberg actually used smaller divers and shark cages to make the great whites look even bigger)? Still you're right about prop shark looking a bit naff but as you mentioned it was the 70's but also who really gives a shit. Having watched it recently due to the lockdown, the thing that should out was the ''debate'' about if they should close the beach or keep it open due to how dependent the town economy is on tourism.


Yeah they really struggled with the production of the shark scenes so didn’t use the fake one much. And yeah was quite a telling debate, which the main protagonist supported but then was ignored and then subsequently blamed for when it did go to shit as the situation then effected everyone,
 

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Yeah they really struggled with the production of the shark scenes so didn’t use the fake one much. And yeah was quite a telling debate, which the main protagonist supported but then was ignored and then subsequently blamed for when it did go to shit as the situation then effected everyone,
Great story from how they tried to make the sharks look bigger.


Also had no idea he was only 27 when he directed Jaws!
 

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Great story from how they tried to make the sharks look bigger.


Also had no idea he was only 27 when he directed Jaws!
“Midgets” back in the non pc days!
Shows you how old he is doesn’t it? Only found out recently his 103 year old dad is still alive.
 

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I just watched The Pianist after being hounded by a mate that it was a "must see", how it surpasses Schindler's List, shows how amazing a director Polanski is etc.

It was...a film that I've now watched. It wasn't bad but it wasn't good. It was just something that was on my screen for two and a half hours. It had nothing that made it stand out except Adrien Brody's performance and I don't see how Polanski can get credit for that. It was shot like a TV movie, it was hammy at times, the Oscar baiting lights were flashing throughout the film so brightly that they must have blinded the maker and distracted him from trying to give the film any sort of tone or themes. The story is just someone walking through things that are going on around him, and everyone goes on about how the film is about isolation - which again I only ever got from Brody's performance and not from anything the director did. When there's tense things happening on screen the film didn't feel tense, or associated at any times to the particular emotion that was supposedly going on. I also, after now seeing this and Chinatown, still don't have any idea what makes a film characteristically "Polanski". To me these two films could have been made by any random director trying to replicate someone else's style and I wouldn't see the difference.

I'm going overboard but it's because he's had literal dozens of award nominations for his "groundbreaking and legendary work" and I'm sick of folk saying "no matter his personal life, Polanski is a genius of film". No he's fecking not. He's the film equivalent of that pompous twat who taped a banana to a wall and managed to fool the art community that it was a masterpiece.
 
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Eastwood later films as a director are brilliant because they perfectly capture the ideology of the modern american conservative into a movie under 3 hours. American Sniper is basically a white nationalist propaganda film that wouldn't look out place in 1940's Germany. Chris Kyle is portrayed as the supreme white super solider, who's the only one protecting ''freedom'', the US military throughout the film is less seen as an army at war but more a weaponised police force, it encapsulates what american mean when they talk about having to be the policeman of the world. Gran Torino and Richard Jewel are movies that express how republican voters view themselves to the wider american population - As fantasy strong armed 70 year olds going around beating up ethic minorities(In the name of civility) and at the same well meaningfully fat civilians who are completely powerless against the american government, who is conspiring against them at every turn. Both are Qanon films.

So I'm not sure how Eastwood later movies can be seen as overrated. He has an idea, a certain way of viewing the world and he follows thought with it. It might be not something we agree with or find entertaining but thats not really the point.
Technically he is a decent director but I don't like his films. Richard Jewel was also really dull as well as the usual criticisms.
 

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The Sting. No idea why everyone (my dad) says it's a classic. In the last week I've watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Bridge on the River Kwai,

I also didn't like Lawrence of Arabia but that's because I was only half watching it and I don't like camels....dumb gimps who look like a child's drawing of a horse.
All films I liked when I first saw them many many years ago but I haven't seen recently and films often don't age well. Except I always found Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid a bit boring.