Discussion in 'Current Events' started by VorZakone, Feb 12, 2018.
Haven't seen it yet.
Apparently some of the prostitutes were underage. If so, the paedoes need to be prosecuted.
Fire entire senior management (and jail them) and merge it with another charity of better standing.
Convenient timing. https://www.theguardian.com/inequal...as-42-people-hold-same-wealth-as-37bn-poorest
I would not put anything past Mogg. He's as slimy as they come.
Agreed. Absolutely indefensible if true.
Unfortunately this isn't a unique case. I would even say that in most impoverished countries that have aid workers, you'll have some of those aid workers involved in prostitution and paedophilia. Even the UN have a shit reputation for this.
@Mike Schatner that is no way funny, I didn't quote you so you have the opportunity to delete or change that horrible comment so it is no longer visible.
Heard on the radio before that this is a big problem with UN Peacekeeping troops as well.
Indeed. Almost all cases of aid being provided are tainted with a small percentage aid-givers taking advantage of people and the environment they are in.
They has to be some regulations or monitoring introduced to try and limit this. No doubt this is already in place, but the current plan needs to be reconsidered as it's clearly not working.
Where I live, the UN were here in large numbers 15 years a go. They basically just set up their own brothels, including a hell of a lot of underage prostitution. A lot of people were happy to see them leave.
What's surprising about this Oxfam case is that it wasn't covered up better. Seems like these organisations have plenty of experience in that area.
Is the issue here alleged underage prostitution, or prostitution with donated funds, or prostitution on private time?
Some bloke on LBC ( UN workerI think ) is saying in Sarajevo he spent allowance money given to him on prostitutes but it sounds like he considers it as part pf his salary, which he chose to spend that way. His argument seems to be that it was his hard-earned money so he could spend it as is he liked, in other words, a private matter. Couldn't listen to all the interview, though.
A different case would be if it was funds which was supposed to be spent on the needs of others and in the case of the prostitutes, their age.
Underage prostitution: throw book at them
Prostitution with donated funds: unethical and probably illegal. Sackings deserved
Adult prostitution on private time with private funds: overreaction from moral police
these people go from disaster area to disaster area and instead of doing their job of helping of people are setting up brothels where they take advantage of local people, then the people meant to be giving them organisational support from overseas spend their time covering up the events
burn the whole thing and and give the money to a different, not-rapey, organisation
Correct me if i'm wrong, but a prostitute works for sex, yes?
Were the victims prostitutes beforehand?
How are victims as young as 14 being labelled prostitutes, or being made out as if they "traded money for sex" if they aren't able to consent?
How is that covered in anything I said?
If activities were conducted on private time with private funds, and otherwise they did their jobs at disaster sites across the world, how is anything you said applicable?
For the other items, yes, you're correct. Any confirmation on what they actually did?
the events were known by and reported to oxfam at the time
they used an oxfam rented villa as a brothel, that's the central claim here, it wasn't a case of one dude picking up street workers
If they rented a villa and put prostitutes up in there to be patronized, then yes that's worthy of condemnation. I don't think bringing a prostitute back to your room falls under that though.
you didn't even have to read the entire article, OP helpfully quoted the central claim for you
and yes, getting prostitutes in a disaster area where dead bodies are lying everywhere and and injured people screaming for help all day and night is worthy of condemnation, it's completely fecking sociopathic
220000 people had just died, another 300000 were injured and in desperate need for immediate help
Doesn't anyone find the UK government's response somewhat hypocritical and cynical ?
The Grauniad published a truly bizarre piece on this. Check it out. One of the strangest bits of “journalism” I’ve ever seen.
Lot of ambiguity in the media response to this, not including the OP.
Stop being melodramatic.
this was at the time, they literally went "loooool who gives a shit"
maybe give reading a shot instead of chatting shit all the time
You'd be best advised to follow your advice then, instead of constructing imaginary scenes to boost your shitty points.
you're the person who constructed imaginary scenes, there were 2 lines in the OP and you didn't read them, leading you to chat shit
I think they work for money.
Good for you if your time restricts you to getting your news from the OP, instead, of, like, anywhere else. In the meantime, jog on.
your line of questioning in this thread indicates that you jumped in head first reading little more than the title, hence nothing but chatting shit
oxfam has confirmed knowing at the time, and that company funds were used for prostitution
Prostitution is illegal, and if they were underage, they couldn't have consented to sex - therefore it's rape. Not prostitution, at worst it's pedophilia.
That's why i'm confused why its being called a prostitution ring, because they aren't able to have "traded for sex", a trade implies equal levels of power.
I was merely correcting the comment that they work for sex.
They use sex-work for money. So the end-goal is money.
It's wrong either way.
I understand what you’re saying, but you’ve got hurricane victims who could’ve lost everything they own, family members, suffering from PTSD etc being offered money - of course some are going to accept.
But that represents an abuse of power, and manipulating the vulnerable, on the part of the aid workers.
And if they were underage, then it can’t be classed as sex anyway, by definition.
Therefore I fail to see how they are prostitutes.
You're arguing for something I haven't even commented on.
You’re right, I didn’t read properly
Slightly worrying but I’ve barely had 6 hours sleep since Sunday so I’ll blame that
That's not healthy miss, get some proper sleep soon!
You think these women prostitute themselves because they enjoy the sex? They are trying to survive because their country is in shambles, and that aid workers exploit these women is outrageous and so is your idiotic statement.
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