Sir Bobby respect on the the great Kaiser:
"When I think back to '66, Franz and I spent most of the day looking at each other and as a result we didn't contribute anything to the match in a really positive way. We were so busy making sure each other didn't do anything that we cancelled each other out. It's probably why we've become such good friends - because we started so close to each other.
"He was a great player, very positive, very fast and always dangerous. So it was my job to stop him in 1966 and 1970. He was the most dangerous player they had. He could do extraordinary things with his pace, control and ability, but if someone ran with him all the time it seemed to limit his danger."
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-rematch-for-bobby-and-the-kaiser-1138129.html
It is a shame those two never met each other in their primes. In 1966, Beckenbauer was just 20 years old and in 1970, Charlton was already 32. Charlton has been described as being too old and slow to follow Beckenbauer all game, der Kaiser scored the first German goal and Charlton was subbed off later. So while that "cancelling each other out" holds up for the game in 66, I don't think it does for the one in 1970.
Since they cancelled each other out when one was in his prime and one was just 20 years old, I believe it is a bit of a myth to suggest they would cancel each other out when both were at the same age, rather I would think Beckenbauer would have the upper hand. Since this is pure fantasy and has no historical evidence whatsoever, I am perfectly fine with people thinking they would cancel each other out based on the game in 66. Just my personal opinion that that wouldn't happen with Beckenbauer in his prime, most certainly also influenced by me being a big fan of Beckenbauer like others are big fans of Best or Giggs.
It's the same question like Beckenbauer, though. Is he great on back four?
Also here, Sammer has Gentile and Ayala flanking him. Two tough tackling, no-nonsense CBs.
Is that a joke?
For the record, I have repeatedly said before that Sammer should be perfectly fine in a back 4, no questions asked.
Baraja generally was more defensive in the Valencia team with Mendieta and Kily Gonzalez as the more attacking players.
Thanks for clearing that up
Cheers for the feedback. I put Beckenbauer there in almost a 'free role' he's not tasked of marking Sir Bobby out of the game. That's why i have surrounded him with runners in midfield who can cover for him when he surges forward and 2 of the best man markers behind him (Forster/Buchwald) to pick up the attackers behind him.
As for the striker, i'm guessing Muller? if so, he's way out of my budget. I think we have plenty of routes to goal:
- Kalle vs Irwin
- Klinsmann has the knack of scoring whoever he plays against
- You know of Schafer's goal threat
- Breitner long shots
- All of my midfielders are able to make those penetrating runs into the box to score, and he only has Pluskal in midfield who is able to track these runs.
I know Muller is too expensive. I think there are a few German strikers who were excellent goalscorers and much better in the air than Klinsmann. Klaus Fischer and Miro Klose are the two names I would suggest. I will post more on Klaus Fischer at a different point and time, he deserves to have an expanded profile
If you had gone for one of those, you would have had a very big advantage, since you would have had one of the best crossers in the game and a great header of the ball vs two CBs who were 1.77 and 1.80. Just hypothetical though
Edit: Didn't want to take over the discussion, will quietly follow the game from now on