Granted he's young and learning, but Fabio Silva was rather wasteful. Amazing that Nuno went into this season with Jimenez and Silva as his only strikers.
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Well he quite fancied Podence there I think but he's realised he's a bit too lightweight I reckon. And in fairness Jimenez has a cracking injury record by and large.
Personally I'd stick Adama up there and just tell him to bully the CBs. Worked for Antonio. When you have a player that strong and quick up there it's always going to be hard to handle.
Portuguese NT looks pretty stacked with talent.
Sending young talented players to a highly competitive league like the premier league is starting to show results in the development of the Portuguese players.
I actually think that if João Felix went for a team like wolves he would develop a lot faster than in Atlético.
Sending young talented players to a highly competitive league like the premier league is starting to show results in the development of the Portuguese players.
I actually think that if João Felix went for a team like wolves he would develop a lot faster than in Atlético.
Actually I don’t agree. I think he learns much more under Simeone than under Nuno. And at Atlético he is playing with better players and in the Champions League.
I like the Diallo transfer... but if you think Manchester United are genuinely good in the transfer market, I’ll assume this is Woodward’s alt account.
He tore us to bits at The Emirates earlier this season. Him or the lad Solomon at Shakhtar is who I would like us to sign to complete our batch of young wide men. Preferably binning Willian at the same time.
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Grealish aside, this is probably the player I would prefer us to sign. I do think a competent board would avvoid wasting too much time on Grealish/Sancho and get Neto.
He might not be as talented as the two, but maybe easier to get? Furthermore, he has this desire and hunger that is beginning to look like a trademark for quite a few portugese players (Bruno, Jota, Bernardo). I also like the fact that he is left footed.
Maybe I am unfair towards Sancho, but I do not see that same hunger in his game. Watching talents who dont give maximum effort is so frustrating. In my opinion, we need more players with the attitude of the likes of Cavani and Bruno.
I do understand your point but I disagree. He's still very raw player, who would need few years of development and we just signed Pellistri & Diallo who I think even though younger players might step up soon, at least diallo I think might be the real deal. Furthermore we have Greenwood who might get another year or two from the right too.
We certainly don't need another young raw talent but immediate quality, while still young player. Grealish and Sancho are worth the extra fee. I'd rather pay 80 mil for Maguire than 30 million for Lindelof for sure. We should aspire for the best level of players as possible and if we need future squad players they can be developped through our own ranks.
Also how much would all theplayers cost this summer with covid and contract situation in mind?
Sancho 65million?
Grealish 80 million, could also offer Tuanzebe as part of the deal in some scenario
Neto? Would he be cheap? Jota was pretty established but went for 41million (as per wiki)
Surely we have that extra bit of money to go for a player of better profile, stage of development we need. Absolutely no need for another incinsistent young player unwilling to step up or underperform like Martial or Rashford, however I'd swap any decent hungry winger for Martial like nothing.
Grealish is 26 and proved nothing at high level so far let alone international level, Sancho even worse, plays in the Bundesliga and is a shadow against proper opposition, won't even mention international level. Just wait to see Neto playing with Portugal, then you'll see how he plays when he doesn't need to defend the entire match, run like a tireless chicken up and down the pitch constantly and trying to pass or cross to nobodies, then you'll see how good he is. I still think someone like Manchester City will get him.
Why does this ‘competent board’ thing need to be thrown into every post? Firstly, a competent board should pursue the players their manager asks for, not the players forum posters want. And secondly, if pursuing Neto is a sign of competence, every big club that does not pursue him (of which there will be many), should also be summarised in the same way. And if not, then perhaps we are just another one of a number of clubs who don’t fancy signing Neto.
Ah yes, but what you're failing to consider is that a competent board should pursue the manager who asks for players the forum posters want.
I take your point but surely there are levels of rawness? Mentioning Neto's level of establishment even in the same breath of Pellistri and Diallo rings hollow to me. I for one was surprised to read how young Neto is today, and he's streets ahead of the youngsters you mention in terms of development in the PL, and in football generally.
With the profile of player Ole seems to be going for we must accept there will be several players developing together, supplemented by the odd finished article such as Cavani. This isn't something to be feared in of itself, though I do accept the argument that you may prefer to spend extra tens of millions on a surer bet.
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I think this lad is going to be a top player, has all the attributes. Watched him several times this season, he has pace, he scores goals, he is direct, he is very good technically and there are moments of genuine awareness and range of passing you don’t often see in a winger, never mind a young winger.
Fair point. But I do not agree with everything. First off, not all big clubs needs a wide forward. So I’m not sure your second point is quite accurate. We do and we should be in a good position to get him.
Second, I do think if is quite fair to question who ever is in charge of player recruitment at Man Utd. We have made a habit out of prioritizing big names. As it stands, we might have moved away from that strategy (maybe!), but we are not very good at finding less known prospects either.
Bruno was great. Cavani was clever. So credit to them for bringing in these players. It is also nice to see that we tried for players like Haaland, Bellingham and maybe even Grealish (even before all the hype!). But our player recruitment have, overall, been subpar for the past decade.
This guy is my number one pick for the summer after Erling.
So my second pick.
So my second pick.
I agree to some extent. But when this season is over he will probably have close to 5000 minutes of senior football for a good side in England. He has also played senior football in Serie A and Portugal, and made his debut for Portugal.
He is not as experienced as Sancho, but he looks more mature and competetive. They are the same age, but I would prefer the less experienced one in this case.
I don't watch Neto for Portugal nor at Wolves regularly, it's just the impression I got. Also I really haven't seen him lighting it up in the prem to deserve such hype. Grealish on the other hand for a similar or one would argue worse team in the league putting in Hazard-esque performances one night after another. He's very polished, outstanding dribbler, drawing fouls, retaining ball, creating chances, one of the highest if not the highest in the premier league. He's also pretty hardworking off the ball. I am not sure what you want to prove at international level. That's quite a nonsense. Some players might be prefered over other and the real test of opposition is in the Premier league itself.
Sancho is a regular for one of the best teams in Bundesliga and is still only 20 already, he's exceptional dribbler and chances creator. he's got an ex factor. Can he work hard enough to get to another level? And Neto to Man city? you tag me when it happens. He's still far away from the very top level and they just bought Torres, highly unlikely and if anything in the future they will invest in a ready made player with the current set up.
Let's see next year or the one after. Grealish for me is a no brainer and a safety bet. Sancho too and he would be "fairly cheap" compared to last year due to his contract situation. We should stack with top talents and more ready pllyers, not too many raw players, we are not Dortmund, to develop and sell on. Right now we have a lot of them in the attacking department and need someone consistent to carry that front line.
Pogba out, Grealish in.
Martial out, Neto in.
Usual transfer budget to get a CDM, CB and back-up RB in.
Full football manager mode activated.
Martial out, Neto in.
Usual transfer budget to get a CDM, CB and back-up RB in.
Full football manager mode activated.
So bring in two left-wingers for a centre midfielder and striker?
You've most certainly activated football manager mode.
Neto is a left-winger in the way that Jota was at Wolves; he could easily play on the right for us and wouldn’t break the bank in the way Sancho would.
And Grealish has been the best player in the league this season. He would be a transformational player for our attack.
No concerns about the Premier League-adaptability of either player as well.
But as we both agreed, this is pure football manager-ism so I have no realistic expectations for them.
Should have done better again wan Bissaka the way people complain about our RB.
Neto isnt good enough for me.
Neto isnt good enough for me.
This is the problem, though. Whether you have realistic expectations for them or not, the fact that you'd want us to get two left-wingers is pretty pointless.
Yes, you mention he could play on the right but he's much better on the left.
If we're to buy a winger, it should be someone who favours the right, not someone who can do a job there.
Good looking dude, bit on the short side however.
Would you have said that Jota would have been a pointless signing for us in the summer?
Depends what we'd be signing him for.
If it was to rotate with Rashford on the left, then no. Hence why I mentioned two left-wingers being pointless, not one.
If it was to play him as our starting right winger, then yes.
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Neto? Does it matter to him? Looks quite indifferent for him. Plays on the right today. Been his usual self. Cuts inside more. But also notice that he is good with both feets.
First of all, I would love Neto if it meant rotating him and Rashford. However, it's been quite clear for a number of years now that we've lacked a specialist right-winger, in the same way we lacked a top-class number 10 for a few years.
We've gone from Lingard, Pereira, Mata, etc to Bruno and we've all seen how much of a difference he has made.
I believe we must do the same to our right-wing.
I also want to add, although Martial has been poor this season, it's pretty likely that he'll be here next year meaning, whether people like it or not, you'd expect he and Rashford to share the left-wing spot.
The acceleration 
Shame he's a left winger. Although. since we've concluded that Martial ain't it, maybe it doesn't matter.
I'd happily take Neto and Raphinha over Martial, James and Mata
Shame he's a left winger. Although. since we've concluded that Martial ain't it, maybe it doesn't matter.I'd happily take Neto and Raphinha over Martial, James and Mata
I like him. I liked Jota as well and if he wasnt injured that would have worked out for Liverpool too.
I'd love him at United. Can play either wing, and is different to our current options (which generally relies on pace). He's an excellent dribbler with close ball control and a low centre of gravity.
I don't think he'd even cost that much - Jota went for £40m? I think a similar price would be a really savvy signing.
I don't think he'd even cost that much - Jota went for £40m? I think a similar price would be a really savvy signing.
Good player but I'd want more of a specialist right winger if we're looking for a Sancho alternative.
According to whoscored, he's only played 3 games on the right and the stats aren't that good. You can see he's much more suited to the left-wing. Last thing we need is another winger who is more suited to the left. Some may argue that's the case with Sancho but he has a lot more experience on the right and in terms of productivity, his numbers are very good from the right.
Neto's playing positions
According to whoscored, he's only played 3 games on the right and the stats aren't that good. You can see he's much more suited to the left-wing. Last thing we need is another winger who is more suited to the left. Some may argue that's the case with Sancho but he has a lot more experience on the right and in terms of productivity, his numbers are very good from the right.
Neto's playing positions
I definitely agree Sancho should be the first choice we go for and think he’d be a great piece of business for us.
Getting rid of Martial and replacing him with Neto would be an equally good piece of business though.
Why, though? Even if we get rid of Martial, we still have Rashfordd (will probably start most games) and Dan James (who is better on the left). That leaves us with Greenwood (long-term future as a striker) and Amad (an 18 year old new to the league) on the right.
Therefore, if we were to get rid of Martial, then I'd personally still want us to replace him with an established right-winger.
I don’t understand your logic in replacing the 9 with a left winger
I don’t see Martial as a CF. His role also in the squad atm is a backup striker or backup LW.
Rashford Cavani Sancho
Neto Greenwood Diallo
Seems a balanced front line given the quality of the starting 3 and the versatility of the reserve 3.