Only Liverpool and Man City can mathematically win the title now. Would a playoff final at Wembley be fair to determine the premier league winner of 19/20? Who would be the favourite?
Playoff to decide the Premier League?
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I think we can all agree that the only fair thing to do is to void the league entirely and forget it ever happened.
I think Liverpool are favorites in this matchup
Only if us, Watford, and Chelsea get to participate.
No, feck that.
A league format decides the best team through matches between every side home and away. Without that process, you can't decide a league champion.
Sure, you can declare the best performing team up to any given point. The best performing team and the actual champions only become one and the same on the last day of the season.
No playoff can be a valid shortcut for crowning a team as league champions without a full season. It's a contradiction in terms.
A league format decides the best team through matches between every side home and away. Without that process, you can't decide a league champion.
Sure, you can declare the best performing team up to any given point. The best performing team and the actual champions only become one and the same on the last day of the season.
No playoff can be a valid shortcut for crowning a team as league champions without a full season. It's a contradiction in terms.
Wouldn't that be an issue to decide between the teams who up to a certain point can mathematically challenge for the league?
Fine. But then call it the Premier League Cup, because that what it becomes.
can't argue with thatNah, it wouldn't be fair in any way. Better to void than have a playoff. Not that I care, but imagine unfair it would be if City won it. And if Liverpool won it it wouldn't mean much.
It’s clearly not fair. Why should City have a 50% chance of winning the league when Liverpool are 2 games away from winning it? It should be a pisstake thread but it sounds like the OP is actually serious.
Not fair to who?
nothing is fair now no matter which option you chose
#NULLANDVOIDIT
#NULLANDVOIDIT
to Liverpool. Not that I care, obviously, but still. It’s a nonsense idea to start with.
And playoff to decide who to get relegate too? Mathematically speaking, there are 16 teams (Including us) are possible to get relegate if they loss all the remaining games. I am not sure many clubs would agree to playoff for relegation?
And how about top 4 for CL? Mathematically speaking, there are 19 teams possible to finish top 4, if they won all of their remaining games too.
So basically, we can let all the Premierleague teams in knockout competition to decide. Maybe seeding system according to current standing? Would be funny if Liverpool or City get relegated somehow, its cup competition after all, anything could happen in one-off match (or 2 legs)
And how about top 4 for CL? Mathematically speaking, there are 19 teams possible to finish top 4, if they won all of their remaining games too.
So basically, we can let all the Premierleague teams in knockout competition to decide. Maybe seeding system according to current standing? Would be funny if Liverpool or City get relegated somehow, its cup competition after all, anything could happen in one-off match (or 2 legs)
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No
Damn Americans, introducing their playoff system bullshit
Its a bad idea even from our viewpoint.
Compared to Chelsea, we have by far the easier fixtures till the end of season. Majority of their opposition are in the top half of the table including City, Liverpool and Wolves whereas ours are in the bottom half.
Allowing this playoff system would take away our advantageous position and undermining our double against City and Chelsea.
Compared to Chelsea, we have by far the easier fixtures till the end of season. Majority of their opposition are in the top half of the table including City, Liverpool and Wolves whereas ours are in the bottom half.
Allowing this playoff system would take away our advantageous position and undermining our double against City and Chelsea.
A play off show only arise if after the full 38 games have been played two teams are level on points and goal difference.
Null and void otherwise.
Null and void otherwise.
No, they should flip a coin for it
Heads - City win
Tails - Liverpool lose
Heads - City win
Tails - Liverpool lose
Amen
They also need to decide the CL places.
So my guess is that they will either fix the season as it is now or have a top 8 playoff to decide the whole thing or perhaps award Liverpool the title and then have a CL place playoff.
Nothing is fair, let’s look at current form to determine TOP 4 and bottom 3 in the last 6 games. Utd would be one of the TOP teams and Spurs would be relegated. 
This calls for David Gill and his unbiased decision making skills.
Or Ed Woodward with years of experience in alarming situations.
Or Ed Woodward with years of experience in alarming situations.
Maybe you should study Australian sports rules, a final followed by a grand final, after playing a full league fixture list. Terrible system, but Aussies lap it up. I don't understand how anyone can get beaten in play offs to decide a Championship, but it does happen.
This is the best option. Followed by null and voided and then City-Liverpool playoff in empty stadium.
No. As much as we hate it, Liverpool are the champions
I am more concerned about our position and next year's participation in the CL.
Scousers deserve it
I am more concerned about our position and next year's participation in the CL.
Scousers deserve it
Consiering City today have about 0,0001% chance of winning the league, you think it would be fair to give thema 50% chance of winning the League in a play-off game. Either Liverpool win or none at all - certainly not City
They're definitely not champions yet.
If the league starts up again they'll win it but as of now Man City are champs.
I bet most Liverpool fans would not truly accept or celebrate a title win if they don't actually win it on the field.
A league to find the true champion must be where all teams play each other home and away. I'm sure thats written into the EPL rules and constitution.
In my opinion, even one game short of that makes it null and void. I'd think the same if United were 25 points clear after a 30 year wait to be champions too.
rules be rulz, else what's the point having them?
In my opinion, even one game short of that makes it null and void. I'd think the same if United were 25 points clear after a 30 year wait to be champions too.
rules be rulz, else what's the point having them?
No one is catching Liverpool this season, if no more games are to be played then they should be awarded the title. Will always have an * next to it though.
CL spots and relegation could be decided from a single or double round of play off between
Manchester City - Arsenal
Leicester City - Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea - Sheffield United
Manchester United - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Brighton & Hove Albion - Norwich City
West Ham United - Aston Villa
Watford - Bournemouth
No need for a FA Cup winner
Let everyone in the Premier League that want Europa League spot to be included in a draw for the spots.
Simple and reasonable
CL spots and relegation could be decided from a single or double round of play off between
Manchester City - Arsenal
Leicester City - Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea - Sheffield United
Manchester United - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Brighton & Hove Albion - Norwich City
West Ham United - Aston Villa
Watford - Bournemouth
No need for a FA Cup winner
Let everyone in the Premier League that want Europa League spot to be included in a draw for the spots.
Simple and reasonable
The only way a play off is fair is that every 1 pts lead = 1 goal lead.
Tie on pts : 0-0
1 pts advantage : Starts at 1-0 aggregate
22 pts advantage : starts at 22-0 aggregate
I think it'll reflect better. Winning 23-0 in a game is as unlikely as chasing up 22 pts with 10 games to play
Tie on pts : 0-0
1 pts advantage : Starts at 1-0 aggregate
22 pts advantage : starts at 22-0 aggregate
I think it'll reflect better. Winning 23-0 in a game is as unlikely as chasing up 22 pts with 10 games to play
No! No! No!
No playoff competitions. No anything. Null and void it. Start again.
No playoff competitions. No anything. Null and void it. Start again.
22 points clear
and you think a playoff is acceptable
shake your head, City don’t remotely deserve that incredible opportunity
The League was won weeks ago
and you think a playoff is acceptable
shake your head, City don’t remotely deserve that incredible opportunity
The League was won weeks ago
That's actually perfect. Throw the scousers a newly minted tin pot and declare them the first and last winners.
Think so? They have been waiting for 30+ years, they'll accept anything. And, as I have already said, they deserve it.
Feck them, I just don't want to see us playin the EL again
It wouldn't be a 50% chance though if Liverpool are truly better than a city. Offer that to Liverpool, I'm sure they would have the self belief and accept it.
I agree we should just scrap it and go again.22 points clear
and you think a playoff is acceptable
shake your head, City don’t remotely deserve that incredible opportunity
The League was won weeks ago
If we have to face Wolves two more times I'm going to cry.
If the Premier League boss comes out in a few weeks and says"we're going to award the title to Liverpool", this title will always be seen by fans as not quite right.
Are Liverpool the best team in the country this season? Sure. Would they win the league if they had the chance? Sure. Are they champions? Nope.
I don't really care if they get awarded the title but it will always be the 2019/2020* title and I think Liverpool fans don't want that.