Oh, I was lucky enough to pick up a PS5 for its normal RRP, so no scalpers to contend withThe scalping on the consoles has been every bit as bad, if not worse (look at what happened today), and the power level is no different to any recent gen. They are powerful, but they are already being left behind same as ever.
Plus, I'm also messing a bit too
1.3k euros? I spend money on stupid shit, so do a lot of people on here. No way I could overpay by 800 on the RRP.
I let mine go for RRP so I’m definitely doing it wrong
Not the thread for it but that's bollox mate. The example you gave is a game that was built for PCs and had an awful console port ffsOh, I was lucky enough to pick up a PS5 for its normal RRP, so no scalpers to contend with
And yeah I accept there will always be that divide in technical fidelity, but lets face it - developers are doing absolute feck all with the PC's power, and most PC releases are poorly optimised console ports these days anyway. Cyberpunk was pretty much the only game I was looking forward to on the PC, nothing in the near or distant future remotely entices me to consider upgrading my rig.
Cyberpunk wasn't an example I gave, merely that it was the last game that encouraged me to upgrade my rig.Not the thread for it but that's bollox mate. The example you gave is a game that was built for PCs and had an awful console port ffs
More to reduce risk of being sent stones. Tons of those kinds here.
The other benefit is you can use it to beat the guy to death with
I'll do that with my old ps4 pro after I get the ps5.
Well I totally disagree. Plenty games I've played lately run way better on PC. You've conveniently left out the main benefits of a PC which are high refresh rates and response times in monitors. A gaming PC that can do.. say.. 1440p 144hz well still shits all over the new consoles when running pretty much any game.
That definitely falls under the more money than sense category
Yeah, the "most games are capped at 60fps" comment shows how out of touch you are Kaos my boomer friend
Oh look at Mr Rich!Yeah, the "most games are capped at 60fps" comment shows how out of touch you are Kaos my boomer friend
And I know you have a PS5, that doesn't make your scalping point valid. I have a PS5, X and a 3070 and I didn't over pay for any of them via scalpers.
No, if I was Mr Rich I'd have scalped and not given a shit about fighting for one!
I do play on a 144hz monitor, thankfully high refresh rates are the single reason I continue to play competitive FPS games solely on PC. A lot of PC games can't even be extended beyond 60fps without editing config files, and others just run horrifically. You ever tried running a Bethesda game at over 60fps? It's absolute jank galore (yes I know its Bethesda, but even by their standards its borderline unplayable). Even the reputable big boys seem to treat PC versions with contempt - remember the shitshow that was GTA IV on PC? Don't get me wrong, the PC is still my preferred platform of choice, but I don't think it offers that much more in this era compared to bygone eras, where it felt like an entirely different experience altogether.
I'm almost certainly younger than you ya cheeky sodYeah, the "most games are capped at 60fps" comment shows how out of touch you are Kaos my boomer friend
And I know you have a PS5, that doesn't make your scalping point valid. I have a PS5, X and a 3070 and I didn't over pay for any of them via scalpers.
You seem to be talking about old games.
Ok Boomer.I'm almost certainly younger than you ya cheeky sod
GTA VI released like 12 years ago.I do play on a 144hz monitor, thankfully high refresh rates are the single reason I continue to play competitive FPS games solely on PC. A lot of PC games can't even be extended beyond 60fps without editing config files, and others just run horrifically. You ever tried running a Bethesda game at over 60fps? It's absolute jank galore (yes I know its Bethesda, but even by their standards its borderline unplayable). Even the reputable big boys seem to treat PC versions with contempt - remember the shitshow that was GTA IV on PC? Don't get me wrong, the PC is still my preferred platform of choice, but I don't think it offers that much more in this era compared to bygone eras, where it felt like an entirely different experience altogether.
I'm almost certainly younger than you ya cheeky sod
Dont see the point if you have a ps4. Your paying 1300 to play Demons Souls. Which is pretty mad
This is madness.
That's just not true.I do play on a 144hz monitor, thankfully high refresh rates are the single reason I continue to play competitive FPS games solely on PC. A lot of PC games can't even be extended beyond 60fps without editing config files, and others just run horrifically. You ever tried running a Bethesda game at over 60fps? It's absolute jank galore (yes I know its Bethesda, but even by their standards its borderline unplayable). Even the reputable big boys seem to treat PC versions with contempt - remember the shitshow that was GTA IV on PC? Don't get me wrong, the PC is still my preferred platform of choice, but I don't think it offers that much more in this era compared to bygone eras, where it felt like an entirely different experience altogether.
I'm almost certainly younger than you ya cheeky sod
Nobody's openly praising it, where did you see that? Do you think people would think the problem was gone if he hadn't posted about his console, and what about his post could be construed as praise for scalpers?
The TT game alone costs more than I paid for a year of game pass
The costs can balloon pretty quickly though. A 3070 is more expensive than any console; a 144Hz monitor can be cheap-ish at this point but still an extra cost (if we assume that you'd have a TV anyway, console or not). I thought about upgrading my PC but I'd pretty much have to get a new one - motherboard, CPU, GPU. So the extra graphical fidelity is simply not worth it to me at this point. A PC set-up that costs as much as a PS5 (monitor included) won't reach 144 FPS either, not in the latest newest games anyway.
Not really what I was saying though, money wasn't part of the discussion at all.
Let's go back to the original discussion then: Kaos wasn't exactly wrong about there being games where unlimited FPS still isn't a thing even on PC. He says he's a big Soulsborne fan and that makes sense: From Software games still need third-party mods to run at anything higher than 60 FPS on PC. You have to actively look for stuff to unlock it. It's not the norm but, well, consoles still do hold back PC games somewhat. When a developer doesn't rein in the PC version for the sake of the consoles - well that's when you get Cyberpunk, as you said.
Almost no PC game released in the last four or five years comes locked at 60fps. Are there games it does happen with? Sure, but it's a relatively small amount.
Both have their advantages and disadvantages, that's why I like to own both!I was reading about how Walmart implemented an anti-bot system when they knew they were having a massive batch in. Within the first 30 minutes, they had blocked something like 20 million bots.
Slight disclaimer in that they couldn't lower the settings low enough to match the PS5 as the options aren't available.
I don't know what we're arguing either. I think my point is - I'm not actually sure - that for a significant amount of games, the PC version isn't necessarily a notably superior experience, and that consoles being the main market for games does hold back PC gaming to an extent. PC games might not be poor ports of console games but often they're an afterthought. Just look at every single game that ties physics to framerate - hello, Bethesda - which can cause extremely funky results when you're playing at 144 fps. Which also means that PC gaming's higher costs may or may not be worth it for any particular player, depending on the kind of games they're into.Almost no PC game released in the last four or five years comes locked at 60fps. Are there games it does happen with? Sure, but it's a relatively small amount.
I mean obviously if you play an older game it might have limitations like that because back then high refresh rates simply weren't an important thing for PC gaming whereas now, they are.
Anyway I don't know what you are even arguing at this point. One minute it's cost, now about what Kaos said. I simply said that Kaos comments that PC games are poor ports of console games these days is bullshit. Which it clearly is.
I'd never recommend PC over console to play a driving game for example (although.. if you have a controller, it can still be better) but I didn't think I'd have to go and explain such obvious things to someone who is a PC gamer themselves
