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afrocentricity

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Because this discussion was about DD2?

I hate the whole concept, but this was the game being discussed and it's particularly laughable to not only include something in a game that the dev explicitly said wouldn't be there, but to monetise it too.

Frankly, it's weird that you've taken it so personally.
Sounds like it can be completely ignored from the game though?

Someone else mentioned HD2.... I'm 150+ hrs in and I've spent £1.69 on the game over the £35 it cost at launch. Maybe we should look at each game on its actually merits and gameplay rather than "Microtranslations? Aaaaaargh!11 Kill them!!"
 

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Sounds like it can be completely ignored from the game though?

Someone else mentioned HD2.... I'm 150+ hrs in and I've spent £1.69 on the game over the £35 it cost at launch. Maybe we should look at each game on its actually merits and gameplay rather than "Microtranslations? Aaaaaargh!11 Kill them!!"
I disagree wholeheartedly with microtransactions, outside of perhaps cosmetics in otherwise free to play games.

It doesn't matter to me if it can be ignored, it's just particularly egregious in this case as the dev literally said something like "we won't have fast travel because fast travel is for boring games" only for the game to include it and for it to be monetised.

It probably won't stop me picking it up in a sale, but as consumers, we shouldn't accept this nonsense. If Elden Ring, for example, contained a small, finite number of health potions, but launched with a £2 microtransaction to acquire more, it could similarly be handwaved with "you can ignore it/you don't have to buy it" but it wouldn't make it any less shit.
 

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Capcom always do it, see Resi Evil games. Do think it’s been overdone. If they’re locking something out of the game completely behind micro transactions then that’s shitty. Think everything that you can pay extra for is available in the game anyway.
 

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Because this discussion was about DD2?

I hate the whole concept, but this was the game being discussed and it's particularly laughable to not only include something in a game that the dev explicitly said wouldn't be there, but to monetise it too.

Frankly, it's weird that you've taken it so personally.
It’s not it’s weird there’s such uproar about this game when MXT have been around for years and this is probably one of the instances where it has absolutely zero impact on gameplay or me as a player. If people are stupid enough to buy meaningless stuff like this it’s on them. My opinion is relatively simple. I hate MXT and would rather they go entirely, however that’s a pipe dream. In that scenario I’d rather see small and meaningless stuff for lazy people than actual game altering stuff or even cool armour sets you can’t get any other way.
 

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It’s not it’s weird there’s such uproar about this game when MXT have been around for years and this is probably one of the instances where it has absolutely zero impact on gameplay or me as a player. If people are stupid enough to buy meaningless stuff like this it’s on them. My opinion is relatively simple. I hate MXT and would rather they go entirely, however that’s a pipe dream. In that scenario I’d rather see small and meaningless stuff for lazy people than actual game altering stuff or even cool armour sets you can’t get any other way.
Of course it's weird you've taken it personally. The discussion was about DD2 so it's not at all odd that the microtransactions in other games aren't being discussed. You literally said I was spreading misinformation about it, only to completely misrepresent what the fast-travel DLC was yourself.

I actually agree that the uproar is a bit much, but that's because a) it's Capcom and it's par for the course for them, and b) it's detracting from the massive issues relating to optimisation on PC, not because microtransactions suddenly aren't scummy.

People shouldn't be passive to this stuff though, because it's absolutely them seeing how much they can get away with.
 

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I disagree wholeheartedly with microtransactions, outside of perhaps cosmetics in otherwise free to play games.

It doesn't matter to me if it can be ignored, it's just particularly egregious in this case as the dev literally said something like "we won't have fast travel because fast travel is for boring games" only for the game to include it and for it to be monetised.

It probably won't stop me picking it up in a sale, but as consumers, we shouldn't accept this nonsense. If Elden Ring, for example, contained a small, finite number of health potions, but launched with a £2 microtransaction to acquire more, it could similarly be handwaved with "you can ignore it/you don't have to buy it" but it wouldn't make it any less shit.
Yeah I hear ya
 

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Of course it's weird you've taken it personally. The discussion was about DD2 so it's not at all odd that the microtransactions in other games aren't being discussed. You literally said I was spreading misinformation about it, only to completely misrepresent what the fast-travel DLC was yourself.

I actually agree that the uproar is a bit much, but that's because a) it's Capcom and it's par for the course for them, and b) it's detracting from the massive issues relating to optimisation on PC, not because microtransactions suddenly aren't scummy.

People shouldn't be passive to this stuff though, because it's absolutely them seeing how much they can get away with.
It's hard to disagree with your point that publishers are testing the market to see what kind of bs they can pull and have consumers accept. The $30 or whatever it was 3 day early access for Starfield last year stood out to me for the same reason.

I find myself having trouble being too hard on this game because, as a game, it seems like a rejection of many other modern practices in gaming that really annoy me. I'm not saying this is a reason to ignore the obnoxious microtransactions, just that my tiny neanderthal brain has difficulty holding both feelings simultaneously.
 

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I think Monster Hunter had microtransaction stickers and Resident Evil had mtx weapon skins or something for similar prices. It seems standard practice by Capcom. I'm not too pushed about it in them cases but Street Fighter and Marvel vs Capcom were both pretty terrible for it so its a fine line they're walking.
 

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Of course it's weird you've taken it personally. The discussion was about DD2 so it's not at all odd that the microtransactions in other games aren't being discussed. You literally said I was spreading misinformation about it, only to completely misrepresent what the fast-travel DLC was yourself.

I actually agree that the uproar is a bit much, but that's because a) it's Capcom and it's par for the course for them, and b) it's detracting from the massive issues relating to optimisation on PC, not because microtransactions suddenly aren't scummy.

People shouldn't be passive to this stuff though, because it's absolutely them seeing how much they can get away with.
I haven’t taken it personally, I’m not defending the use of MXT, but I’ll use common sense to defend the against the outcry here. I think it is misinformation to say “pay for fast travel” it’s nothing like that extreme. At best the tag line is “pay for a minor convenience and laziness”. I’m just making sure that people reading the sensationalist headlines are not being put off a potential all timer of an RPG. Would be sad for people if that misrepresentation stopped them buying it.

I do agree on the performance it’s not good, and let’s be honest the last thing you want to do is piss off the PC crowd…

On your final point I agree, it should always be viewed negatively, but in a world where EA make billions from FIFA, assassins creed pump out paid content after paid content, COD releases dumb skin after dumb skin. This feels like a weird place to take the stand.
 

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In DD2, the none fast travel is not a hindrances its a huge plus - like both myself and @trushave said all the best bits are random. This makes to game what it is.
 

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Dragons dogma to me feels like a game that's like 10 years outdated. Just feels like a slightly more modern version of Skyrim but nowhere near as cool as Skyrim was.

A million miles away from something like Elden ring, let's not compare the two...
 

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Dragons dogma to me feels like a game that's like 10 years outdated. Just feels like a slightly more modern version of Skyrim but nowhere near as cool as Skyrim was.

A million miles away from something like Elden ring, let's not compare the two...
How far you thought the game?
 

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How far you thought the game?
Made it to the capital city, rank 8 as an archer, switched to warrior... It's just not really dragging me in. The combat is a bit shit when you compare it to many other current games, the world a bit empty and fake difficulty by just not having fast travel unless you have the item so you will stumble on some big creature. Just feels inconvenient. Oh and when you beat these creatures, you hardly get anything worth keeping. Just very... "Meh".
 

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Anyone else gonna get Dragons Dogma 2? I feel like DD1 was one of the most underrated games on the ps4 I absolutely loved it. It looks like they have just doubled down with all the best best parts of the first game.
Biggest letdown of the century if you ask me. I loved the first one even though it was a little rough around the edges, but this one is just througly mediocre. Besides the combat which is still fun, the rest is sub par and then some.
 

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Biggest letdown of the century if you ask me. I loved the first one even though it was a little rough around the edges, but this one is just througly mediocre. Besides the combat which is still fun, the rest is sub par and then some.
Why do you feel that way? I don’t remember the last time I was so addicted to a game. It’s not a perfect game, but it’s clearly nearly perfect for me. I’ll be surprised if I don’t put in at least 100 hours. What do you think it’s letting it down?
 

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I loved dragons dogma but knowing they will inevitably bring out a huge dlc I am just going to wait for that for the s cons game.
 

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Why do you feel that way? I don’t remember the last time I was so addicted to a game. It’s not a perfect game, but it’s clearly nearly perfect for me. I’ll be surprised if I don’t put in at least 100 hours. What do you think it’s letting it down?
Its just so much wasted potential. It could have been spectacular, but its just DD1 with a bigger map and a new coat of paint. Its not bad , its a solid 7,5/10 imo. The world, story, quests and NPC's all feel very last gen. I find myself clicking through almost all dialogue because its just meaningless chatter for the most part

The "Open world" is not open at all. Its just a bunch of narrow paths. I get why they did that, its easy to sheperd players through certain points so they could dot them with encounters but it really saps my enjoyment because its all cragged woodland that looks the same
 

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Its just so much wasted potential. It could have been spectacular, but its just DD1 with a bigger map and a new coat of paint. Its not bad , its a solid 7,5/10 imo. The world, story, quests and NPC's all feel very last gen. I find myself clicking through almost all dialogue because its just meaningless chatter for the most part

The "Open world" is not open at all. Its just a bunch of narrow paths. I get why they did that, its easy to sheperd players through certain points so they could dot them with encounters but it really saps my enjoyment because its all cragged woodland that looks the same
Heard a few people say this but I disagree. It’s got real verticality which makes it feel more realistic than many other open worlds. Once you get to bahtal it does open up further with wide open spaces, but still retains that feeling of verticality. Personally I think it’s very well done as that way they can hide all manor of chests, caves and enemies.
 

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Heard a few people say this but I disagree. It’s got real verticality which makes it feel more realistic than many other open worlds. Once you get to bahtal it does open up further with wide open spaces, but still retains that feeling of verticality. Personally I think it’s very well done as that way they can hide all manor of chests, caves and enemies.
Fair enough about the verticality, it does add another layer to it, but i still find the enviroments a bit dull because of the design choices.
 

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Rumor has it that the RE engine open world in DD2 is being used as a test for an open world RE9 game which I'd be weirdly excited about it if true (could be complete bs). RE games have always tried new things and this would be very different and would have the potential to be either brilliant or a horrible mess.

Tempted to get DD2 but i'm hoping they'll patch it lots before I do.
 

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Rumor has it that the RE engine open world in DD2 is being used as a test for an open world RE9 game which I'd be weirdly excited about it if true (could be complete bs). RE games have always tried new things and this would be very different and would have the potential to be either brilliant or a horrible mess.

Tempted to get DD2 but i'm hoping they'll patch it lots before I do.
Wouldn't an open world Resi game just be dead rising?
Just seems a hell of a lot easier to script a somewhat linear game and i'm not sure if collecting Jill Valentine bobbleheads in random corners of the map will add much to the more horror focused RE.
Open World Monster Hunter which is definitely in development seems more likely.
 

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So I’m tempted to buy a PlayStation 3 that’s in decent condition, with the intention of cycling back around and cleaning up some Platinum trophies I missed. Would that work? Would there be any issue with me having an account associated with multiples consoles? In this case, a PS3 and a PS5, obviously.
 

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So I’m tempted to buy a PlayStation 3 that’s in decent condition, with the intention of cycling back around and cleaning up some Platinum trophies I missed. Would that work? Would there be any issue with me having an account associated with multiples consoles? In this case, a PS3 and a PS5, obviously.
they’d probably think something is wrong with you and you’d end up on some kind of register.
 

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So I’m tempted to buy a PlayStation 3 that’s in decent condition, with the intention of cycling back around and cleaning up some Platinum trophies I missed. Would that work? Would there be any issue with me having an account associated with multiples consoles? In this case, a PS3 and a PS5, obviously.
Nah, you'll be fine. I've got a PS3 that I dig out every few weeks trying to get more trophies.
 

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Dusted off my PS5 for the first time in 7 or 8 months. Got myself Helldivers 2 and I’m enjoying it immensely. I haven’t got the time or patience to faff about with adventure games or anything too involved these days so just being able to jump in and blow up a load of stuff is right up my street.
 

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So I’m tempted to buy a PlayStation 3 that’s in decent condition, with the intention of cycling back around and cleaning up some Platinum trophies I missed. Would that work? Would there be any issue with me having an account associated with multiples consoles? In this case, a PS3 and a PS5, obviously.
Should be absolutely fine, I regularly play on PS3, PS4, PS5 and Vita with same account.
 

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I'm enjoying what I've played of the Stellar Blade demo...... Very Nier
 

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Biggest letdown of the century if you ask me. I loved the first one even though it was a little rough around the edges, but this one is just througly mediocre. Besides the combat which is still fun, the rest is sub par and then some.
I finished DD2 a few days ago. Like Diablo 4 the reviews are way too positive. I can say i probably didnt change vocations enough to get the variety of combat but that was because getting the best gear is expensive and i didn't have a good way to make tons of gold. Its a decent game, but the metacritic average is around 9/10. I wouldnt give more than a 7 at most. Lots of good looking combat animations, but it becomes hollow after the 1st 10 hours. Shite story and shite open world. Its like really shit smaller skyrim but with only selling point being varied combat and pawns. Quests are abysmal and so is story. I played it on PC and its terribly optimized. I would only recommend it on a sale.
 

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I finished DD2 a few days ago. Like Diablo 4 the reviews are way too positive. I can say i probably didnt change vocations enough to get the variety of combat but that was because getting the best gear is expensive and i didn't have a good way to make tons of gold. Its a decent game, but the metacritic average is around 9/10. I wouldnt give more than a 7 at most. Lots of good looking combat animations, but it becomes hollow after the 1st 10 hours. Shite story and shite open world. Its like really shit smaller skyrim but with only selling point being varied combat and pawns. Quests are abysmal and so is story. I played it on PC and its terribly optimized. I would only recommend it on a sale.
Think this is very harsh. But tbf the game isn’t for everyone. It’s a pretty unique style. I have definitely started to feel the grind abit at this point, but that’s only because I’m 80 hours on and just so ridiculously OP that the challenge has all but gone now. I think I’d probably be best finishing the main story soon before I end up putting it down completely.