EL W Europa League Semi-Final 1st Leg

Athletic Club 0:3 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Thu, 01 May 2025

Wonderful allround experience. Delightful match from top to bottom. Kudos to Casemiro and Maguireinho for their performances after some hard periods.

And Spanish football really has to take a long hard look at itself and it's attitude to refereeing. La Liga is virtually unwatchable due to the non stop complaining and booing directed at the refs. And teams official social media putting the refereeing in doubt has to be put down hard by UEFA.
 
Enjoy football. Enjoy imperfections. Celebrate when we win. That’s my advice.
You're preaching to the converted here. I did enjoy it, immensely. In fact, it made me think of the time when we were a great team - and fairly reliably did things like win 3-0 against good opponents, despite performances full of imperfections.

That doesn't change what I saw in the first 30. The main point being that we solved the problem by desisting from playing out from the back, it looked to me.
 
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No difference really. If both teams get to the finals, they’re not risking anything to the players that will start the final.

Literally nothing to play for in the league for both teams.
also we will have played two games closer together by playing on the friday.. this sort of "news" always makes me laugh.
 
It was between the 20 and 25 minute mark when the TNT commentator mentioned how much possession we had. The point he was making was that we’d got through our opening wobbles and were getting on top. And that’s how I saw it at the time. We created some bad situations for ourselves with sloppy individual moments but in general it was one of those controlled, high possession, first half performances we often see under Amorim in Europe.
OK, thanks. Although "controlled" is not a word I would use for that phase of the game. And I note Amorim sounded far from happy with it.
 
That’s being extremely melodramatic. We gifted them 2 or 3 decent chances with sloppy individual errors (Lindelof and Ugarte caught on the ball, Dorgu caught upfield) but we had 65% possession - and a very narrowly disallowed goal from Garnacho - leading up to our opening goal.
We were also two up before the 10 men came into effect - they didn't have to actually play with 10 men until after the penalty. Also, we've proved more than once that we can be shite against 10!

Last night was a good old-fashioned European away performance
 
We were also two up before the 10 men came into effect - they didn't have to actually play with 10 men until after the penalty. Also, we've proved more than once that we can be shite against 10!

Last night was a good old-fashioned European away performance

Yeah well, my point to which that post was a response was exactly that what turned the game wasn't so much the red card as our starting to play over their press rather than through it.
 
Good performance, really good result. But I do wish we had found another goal or 2 in the second half against 10 men to really take all pressure off the return leg
 
Another night to savour. Please please please let the sporting gods smile on us next Thursday. Onana played well, Lindelof made a couple of mistakes but also did some top work. Rasmus was great last night. I love Mazraoui. Wonderful footballer. Amad back. Will he play at the weekend, I wonder, for match fitness. Well done Amorim. Obviously there were the giants like Harry, Case and Bruno. But everyone else did great. That second half of cool containment is a lesson for the future.
 
A fun spooky element of the whole thing was that the Athletic Bilbao ultras were singing and chanting all through the moments silence for Pope Francis and then the team had a shocker of a first half.

Spooky/unremarkable depending on your outlook.
 
Got to give a special mention to Harry Maguire. He received dog’s abuse a couple of seasons ago. Sure, he has his imperfections, such as speed. But, most players are far from perfect. I always felt it was so harsh, because he was often left hopelessly exposed by the players in front of him giving the ball away carelessly in terrible positions, and carrying several of those players who didn’t work hard. Lost his captaincy as the Club were happy to let him go. He stayed. Not once did he ever moan, he didn’t get his agent to publish any spin, he didn’t give us sob stories as to his sacrifices and how he is entitled to better treatment. He stayed quiet publicly, kept working hard, and has always given his all when he puts the shirt on. I can forgive players for technical weaknesses if they give it their all. He is an absolute true professional.

In last nights game, and the last tie, he has shown his experience. He can be a rock at the back, yet he can go up front and will not shy away from playing an Alan Shearer role. He can even turn into CR7 on the right wing . Casemiro as well, he may not be rapid. But, if all 11 players do their work, he doesn’t need to have great pace because he shouldn’t be left exposed.

For me, Utd have a really good set of centre backs. Lindelof is the only one that worries me. But Maguire, De Ligt, Martinez and Yoro, I really like all of them. And Heaven looked fantastic what little I saw of him.

The biggest problem for me is the attacking players are lacking. Perhaps it is a quality issue, but it is more likely an experience issue. Lots of learner drivers, confidence gets low quickly, too many bad decisions are made. It would be sad to see some of them leave, but they need one or two more experienced players to helps them. At the moment, it is really only Bruno who is that experienced player. He may frustrate, but he is fantastic in that he never shies away. He will always look for the ball and try and make something happen. But, Utd really need 2 or 3 players up there that have that aura about them. That make opponents worry, and lift their team mates just by being on the same side. Then the younger guys can grow and learn from them. I always wonder how things might have been different if Utd dared to try and sign Kane, and he accepted. Just to have another top class player up top alongside Bruno, and give opponents another major concern. Hopefully this summer, Utd can start to make sensible signings, rather than trying to spend extortionate fees on 18 year old players nobody has heard of, but have youtube videos of them doing stepovers in the Estonian league.
 
A fun spooky element of the whole thing was that the Athletic Bilbao ultras were singing and chanting all through the moments silence for Pope Francis and then the team had a shocker of a first half.

Spooky/unremarkable depending on your outlook.

Spooky is as spooky sees. I made lamb roast for dinner yesterday and then United went on to score three in the first half. Really makes you think about whether you're eating enough lamb, doesn't it.
 
Spooky is as spooky sees. I made lamb roast for dinner yesterday and then United went on to score three in the first half. Really makes you think about whether you're eating enough lamb, doesn't it.

I'm only eating lamb from now on
 
Good for Bodo Glimt to get a goal back and keep the tie alive. If anyone can throw away a two goal lead, it’s Spurs. Here’s hoping
 
Ref was absolutely outstanding tonight.
I think he should have been quicker with the cards, every break away they were fouling after Garnacho's disallowed goal, not 100% certain on the whether he made the right call on Garnacho's penalty shout.

He was a lot better than the crap we usually seem to get though.
 
After the euphoria of yesterday, I'm already worried that Bilbao will be feeling badly done to, and ready for revenge at OT. If they start with an early goal this could be a nerve-wracking game as our defense does like a good panic!
 
A fun spooky element of the whole thing was that the Athletic Bilbao ultras were singing and chanting all through the moments silence for Pope Francis and then the team had a shocker of a first half.
Indeed.... possibly it was divine intervention!:lol:

Also after the early pathetic attempts to 'play out', we suddenly found some common sense (or 'divine intervention') and adjusted to the realities.:lol:

Never really in much trouble after that; when the second goal went in and their CB walked, the crowd was subdued, and after the third, you could almost hear a pin drop... except for those excitable United fans:lol:

Everyone of our players had good games, a special shout out for Casemiro, Bruno and Maguire.

My wife tells me I was still smiling in my sleep last night :lol:
 
Good for Bodo Glimt to get a goal back and keep the tie alive. If anyone can throw away a two goal lead, it’s Spurs. Here’s hoping

In Norway, the mood is fairly upbeat. Everyone understands that the result make Spurs clear favorites, but with the thrashings Glimt have fairly consistently handed out to big clubs at home on the astroturf, the general feeling is that overcoming a two-goal deficit is definitely within the bounds of possibility. It's just a few weeks since Lazio were beaten 2-0 there (and that was a genuinely flattering result for them too - it could easily have been 5). Also, they will have very key players back who were suspended for the first leg. And, as you say, it's Spurs.

Home advantage means more for Bodø/Glimt than for other clubs, it's not normal to have that much of a differential between home and away. Which would make them ideal adversaries in a final played elsewhere.
 
After the euphoria of yesterday, I'm already worried that Bilbao will be feeling badly done to, and ready for revenge at OT. If they start with an early goal this could be a nerve-wracking game as our defense does like a good panic!

I can very easily envisage a scenario where we gift them 2 goals in the first 20 minutes... :rolleyes:
I can't handle another tie like Lyon at my age...!!
 
I just watched the first half and I thought we were very lucky not to concede any goals. On the defensive, our players are very poor with the ball especially Dorgu, Ugarte and Lindelof. If we have such performance is the 2nd leg, I won't be surprise if we lose. Overall, our first touch and passing is poor as a team, we constantly put ourselves under pressure. Pray that we can reach the final and win. It will be a long road back to the top as I have no confidence in the players that we have.
 
Couldn't have wished for a better result really. Felt like everyone played their part as well, Lindelof had a shaky start but those blocks were crucial, Ugarte similarly with the assists.

Just need to be smart in the 2nd leg, sure they'll be doing everything to try and get a red or two, making the most of any slight contact etc.
 
I can very easily envisage a scenario where we gift them 2 goals in the first 20 minutes... :rolleyes:
I can't handle another tie like Lyon at my age...!!

Don't even think about it , although we all know in the back of our minds it is entirely possible that we blow this and have it as a very fitting ending to an awful season.

Just hope we get a very uneventful evening in the return leg , a boring 0-0, 1-0 or even 0-1 will do fine.
 
Great game, great performance, Casemiro proving his class, Maguire redemption arc continues, Ugarte sitting down his haters, Garnacho having a great performance, a fair ref'ing performance against us for once, good goals, beating a Spanish team, Amad back and looking immediately a class above... What more could you ask for?

Obviously, we can't get ahead of ourselves before the return leg, but we just need a professional performance from the team.

Not too worried about Spurs in a potential final, they have somewhat had our number in the last few years, they are do an absolute battering by us at some point, and this might as well be it. I mean if we are scared of Spurs, especially this Spurs, then what hope do we have? I'm not, I don't think this team is after these last couple performances, I think Spurs will crumble under the pressure, can't wait for it.
 
I just watched the first half and I thought we were very lucky not to concede any goals. On the defensive, our players are very poor with the ball especially Dorgu, Ugarte and Lindelof. If we have such performance is the 2nd leg, I won't be surprise if we lose. Overall, our first touch and passing is poor as a team, we constantly put ourselves under pressure. Pray that we can reach the final and win. It will be a long road back to the top as I have no confidence in the players that we have.

:lol:
 
Just hope we get a very uneventful evening in the return leg , a boring 0-0, 1-0 or even 0-1 will do fine.
I'd take a drab 0-0 all day long, but you just know, it's not going to pan out anything like that... :lol:
 
:lol: I love the confidence, unfortunately I don't share it. They're 2 points behind us in the league but there's a reason they've beaten us 3 times already this season.

Styles make fights. They're extremely strong in our weakest areas, and we aren't at all strong in theirs.
This is my main worry too. Plus Brennan Johnson and Maddison seem to find their mojo against us.

Amorim’s tactics seem tailor made for FifteenthOfBlodyMoiNointeenEightyNoine.

(Five points to anyone who gets the reference)
 
The way I see it is they are a better side than us. Before the match I was hoping that a loss by one goal would be a good result and then bring them back to OT and throw the kitchen sink at them.

This result is out of this World. We will definitely score a goal, maybe two. There is no way they are scoring 4 past us.
 
I’m so delighted with the way it’s rattled everyone.

There’s still scope from the keeper having a brain fart or two next week but let’s hope that was job done.
 
The way I see it is they are a better side than us. Before the match I was hoping that a loss by one goal would be a good result and then bring them back to OT and throw the kitchen sink at them.

This result is out of this World. We will definitely score a goal, maybe two. There is no way they are scoring 4 past us.
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Have you got a mad short memory or something?
Yes.

Or, perhaps a very good long term one.

They’re bottlers and we’re fecking Manchester Utd

Don’t forget your identity “mate”
 
30 minutes in I left the match thread in disgust at the amount of posters calling our players idiots and stupid cnuts. It’s funny to see many of the same posters in the post match thread lauding a brilliant performance. Some people need to get a fecking grip.

Fantastic away result and performance. Could’ve had five, considering we hit the woodwork twice. Fernandes really spoils us, and shows the value of having peak age footballers.
 
30 minutes in I left the match thread in disgust at the amount of posters calling our players idiots and stupid cnuts. It’s funny to see many of the same posters in the post match thread lauding a brilliant performance. Some people need to get a fecking grip.
How many times under Sir Alex did we start poorly or tentatively, before then getting a goal and kicking on? It happened a lot.

Yesterday was a good performance overall. So much focus is on the penalty and red card, but we had already taken the lead, and if he hadn't been pulled back Højlund would have a huge chance to make it 2-0.

The result is beyond what anyone could reasonably expect. And the fact that it happened against a super whiny Spanish side is just a bonus.
 
30 minutes in I left the match thread in disgust at the amount of posters calling our players idiots and stupid cnuts. It’s funny to see many of the same posters in the post match thread lauding a brilliant performance. Some people need to get a fecking grip.

Fantastic away result and performance. Could’ve had five, considering we hit the woodwork twice. Fernandes really spoils us, and shows the value of having peak age footballers.
Both views are clearly extreme. If it was 11v11 at 2-0 I'm not sure we could've got a result back to OT.

The players were absolutely shitting themselves at the Bilbao press. No one really wanted the ball bar maybe Casemiro, we were attempting to build up from the back and giving it away for fun.

Ugarte and Dorgu in particular were having a terrible time at it.

Good result and I was obviously over the moon when I was watching the game and shortly after but now is the time for some clear headed thinking.
 
I heard they conceded only 10 goals at home this season.

So scoring 3 really was quite the feat
 
I hadn't noticed just how much Vivian was giving it the biggun after the challenge, but before VAR intervened. He was all over Højlund as it was some grotesque dive. Just makes what happened next all the more sweet.
 
If we manage to get through can you imagine the final in Bilbao, literally the stadium will be filled with Bilbao supporters in Spuds shirts
 

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