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It's a sign. Top 16 is on the bag.Won 4, drew 4, lost 4, GD of 4. I thought that was pretty.
It's a sign. Top 16 is on the bag.Won 4, drew 4, lost 4, GD of 4. I thought that was pretty.
United of old almost, in that I didn't want the match to finish. Very enjoyable 90 minutes.
Everybody played well, with notable mentions to Fred (best performance as a red), James, Maguire & Williams.
A few observations:
I'm interested to know whether the staunch Ole out crowd still fail to see any evidence of coaching or a 'style of play' emerging. For me, while we are still inconsistent and a work in progress, it's clear what we are trying to do here.
- We look genuinely dangerous when Rashford, Martial & James are our front three. Real potential there
- The pressing in the final third is improving
- For that matter pressing in general is vastly improved. We turn the ball over quickly so many times, often within 5 seconds of losing possession
- Stick Pogba in this XI in place of Perreira and it starts to look like a pretty exciting side
Our best XI is better than most in this league. Young players are coming through and getting minutes, so by seasons end we will be able to make sound decisions about what we need to add to the squad.
He does, but not in the midfield two. McT and Fred with Pogba no. 10...Pogba doesn't get back into this team. hehe
Im not a staunch Ole outer, but beating Brighton at home does not make us all of a sudden brilliant. We have always played well against sides that dont park the bus. See Liverpool, Chelsea, Leicester etc We need to figure out how to play like this against the likes of Bournemouth, Newcastle, Crystal Palace etcUnited of old almost, in that I didn't want the match to finish. Very enjoyable 90 minutes.
Everybody played well, with notable mentions to Fred (best performance as a red), James, Maguire & Williams.
A few observations:
I'm interested to know whether the staunch Ole out crowd still fail to see any evidence of coaching or a 'style of play' emerging. For me, while we are still inconsistent and a work in progress, it's clear what we are trying to do here.
- We look genuinely dangerous when Rashford, Martial & James are our front three. Real potential there
- The pressing in the final third is improving
- For that matter pressing in general is vastly improved. We turn the ball over quickly so many times, often within 5 seconds of losing possession
- Stick Pogba in this XI in place of Perreira and it starts to look like a pretty exciting side
Our best XI is better than most in this league. Young players are coming through and getting minutes, so by seasons end we will be able to make sound decisions about what we need to add to the squad.
I’ve balanced it up. It took me less than two seconds to realise that Pogba playing ahead of Pereira is a significantly better option. He actually creates chances, and when you’re a team that’s scored 16 league goals by mid-November then you’re choosing the chances (and goals) every single time.I think a lot of people obviously say put pogba back in instead of perreira and we will be better and I generally agree.
But there has to be some wariness because when you put pogba in you are going to lose pressure when we give away the ball. Perrira actually pretty decent in a press and he also is a good fouler and not afraid to just trip a man up. I think this helps stopped a few counters against us. You won’t get that with pogba and putting him in there affects that pressing unit quite a bit.
I think you have to balance up if what he brings is worth more than that but taking one man out of that press will have a big impact on the system
Im not a staunch Ole outer, but beating Brighton at home does not make us all of a sudden brilliant. We have always played well against sides that dont park the bus. See Liverpool, Chelsea, Leicester etc We need to figure out how to play like this against the likes of Bournemouth, Newcastle, Crystal Palace etc
The only style of play is the same we have all season. Use pace to hit on the break. Works sometimes. Sometimes it doesnt - See Bournemouth.
But with regards to this game we were brilliant
I agree totally. We may end up losing more than we gain, but I'd like to see it tried over 3-5 matchesI think a lot of people obviously say put pogba back in instead of perreira and we will be better and I generally agree.
But there has to be some wariness because when you put pogba in you are going to lose pressure when we give away the ball. Perrira actually pretty decent in a press and he also is a good fouler and not afraid to just trip a man up. I think this helps stopped a few counters against us. You won’t get that with pogba and putting him in there affects that pressing unit quite a bit.
I think you have to balance up if what he brings is worth more than that but taking one man out of that press will have a big impact on the system
Pogba in attack has all the tools to be crazy dangerous. Perrira's press wasn't the best and Pogba can press, I also think pogba has the ability to open defences in a low block as well with a quick pass - he would have watched game and be sad he's missed it..I think a lot of people obviously say put pogba back in instead of perreira and we will be better and I generally agree.
But there has to be some wariness because when you put pogba in you are going to lose pressure when we give away the ball. Perrira actually pretty decent in a press and he also is a good fouler and not afraid to just trip a man up. I think this helps stopped a few counters against us. You won’t get that with pogba and putting him in there affects that pressing unit quite a bit.
I think you have to balance up if what he brings is worth more than that but taking one man out of that press will have a big impact on the system
You would think so, but will the Manager?Easy decision which left-back starts against Sheffield United and which left-back must fly to Astana.
Whether people think we are brilliant now wasnt the question though. It was whether people are starting to see a style of play forming here.This. Ole In or Ole Out does not exist in a vacuum consisting of one game for feck's sake. It infuriates me when we get these type of posts after beating a small team 3-1 (see the Norwich game) and then we lose our next game.
18 points behind Liverpool.Won 4, drew 4, lost 4, GD of 4. I thought that was pretty.
Let’s enjoy the win and performance. Regardless of how this season went, realistically even a good session such as top 4 or 5/6 with great football would not have involved comparing us to Liverpool or City.18 points behind Liverpool.
Pogba doesn't get back into this team. hehe
Ole made some conclusions lately, one needs to admit. He is slowly starting to become less stupid with team selection, and he definitely understands that Fred and McTominay are a pair to keep in the team. As such, Pogba will come instead of Pereira.As much as we all want Pogba at #10 we’ll see him replace Fred unfortunately.
yeah, sure, lets keep Andreas PerreiraPogba doesn't get back into this team. hehe
Yeah but you can beat a big team and can't say it then either. So its beat middling teams or nothing. Manchester City got schooled by the same team we played around with at times today.This. Ole In or Ole Out does not exist in a vacuum consisting of one game for feck's sake. It infuriates me when we get these type of posts after beating a small team 3-1 (see the Norwich game) and then we lose our next game.
We had 11 shots on goal, everything was clicking. Daniel James was instrumental. High press and ball retrieval, playing the ball from the back, everything we want to do. Well coached, perfect team for the occasion, perfect execution. Can't ask for more on a day like thisUnfortunately was busy this afternoon so couldn't watch, sounds like we weren't great then suddenly got going? Seen a few clips of the chances on the commentary thread.
Do we feel the team actually looked coached and structured or did Brighton play into our hands with how they were set up?
Haven't seen any updates on McT usually they say a rough answer? How bad did it look was it a he was caught in a bad place and just the impact hurt and will be fine or did it look more sinister?
May have to watch MOTD for the first time in ages, how long a slot does each game tend to get now? I'm sure Liverpool vs City will be on first and I'd like to avoid them gushing over Liverpool and Klopp? But obviously dont want to leave it too long and risk missing us?
Typically when I cant watch maybe I should stop watching given its usually a borefest when I do did the players look to drop off as sometimes when weve played the high press Ole seems keen on we do it for a bit then they get tired. I saw the clip of Dan James' cross where Rashy then missed the open goal he looks like he's getting his head up more and putting in some good crosses something he got criticism on here for when he first came and some saw his pace as being his only real asset. Would have liked a few more minutes for Greenwood let him have some games where things are a bit more relaxed and he's not tasked with rescuing us- his introduction in the Partizan game was perfect .We had 11 shots on goal, everything was clicking. Daniel James was instrumental. High press and ball retrieval, playing the ball from the back, everything we want to do. Well coached, perfect team for the occasion, perfect execution. Can't ask for more on a day like this
This is where I am still very weary of Ole. Things that seem obvious as heck, he seems to take an age to realize. Like when Martial was out, he isolated Rashford who is just not good up on his own and needed someone along side at least.Ole made some conclusions lately, one needs to admit. He is slowly starting to become less stupid with team selection, and he definitely understands that Fred and McTominay are a pair to keep in the team. As such, Pogba will come instead of Pereira.
Jonathan Moss