ghagua
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Cannot take another season of this crap.
They are usually shared I think between BBC/ITV, or at least it won't be on a pay channel.I had the match on but barely watched it. What channel is the European championship on?
I'm just about ready to cancel Sky/BT now.
I disagree to a point about Lingard, he has scored a few screamers this season, the Chelsea goal was magnicifient. But yeah, he hardly has end product with the amount of starts/minutes he's been given.Take the pace out of that forward line and we are struggling. Memphis does not have pace, neither does Rooney. Lingard does, but has no end product.
I've supported United since 1958 and my memory is still good thank God.I don't know how long you've supported Utd but there were loads of games like this under SAF.They were usually at the back end of the season and we were fighting for the title.People do have selective amnesia when it comes to Utd performances
Yeah. CBJ was strangely looking disinterested. For a young player who is still making his mark, one would imagine he will give it all to stake a claim in the team.Same old story. Lower teams sit back. We dont know what to do.
We won. 3 pts. Thank you very much.
Special mention to CBJ. That was lazy, boring, Yaya Toure level of performance. No form, no commitment. Hope he was not drinking after winning the U21 award.
Yeah I agree with your post 100%. I could tolerate a 'professional' performance from a Fergie team a couple of times a season, but watching this crap currently (which is much worse then any Fergie performance) every game nearly for 18 months has actually killed my love for football. When Van Gaal is announced to stay on in a few weeks I think that will be my queue to take a break from going to OT and watching every game religiously. I'll watch when I'm not doing anything. Sick of wasting multiple hours per week to watch something so bad.I've supported United since 1958 and my memory is still good thank God.
There were a few instances when SAF played the game for the result but never ever did we have 90% of a Season playing such horrible football game-after-game.
You might be happy but I'm not, and from the comments it seems that the great majority, by far, are not too.
Shhhh. You'd be sent to a mental facility talking like that around here. The narrative about LvG has been set long ago and it will take Brazil 1970 kind of performances to change it for so many.If you read through these posts and didn't know the score you would have thought we had been beaten 0-3!
Why can't people accept the fact that we are boring and insipid to watch for two reasons, and two reasons only;
A) Our playing staff are inadequate. Not necessarily because they aren't talented but because we lack physical speed and power in keys areas
B) It takes two to tango and in virtually every game we play the opposition stick 10 behind the ball at all times
At no point, ever, does van Gaal say to the players "I want you to pass backwards". Whether you love him, hate him or indifferent if you think van Gaal is the reason we are boring lets see how bored we all are when we get a new manager and we play open, expansive football and get beat
So because Van Gaal has bought poor and let the squad turn into crap we should happy and accept it?If you read through these posts and didn't know the score you would have thought we had been beaten 0-3!
Why can't people accept the fact that we are boring and insipid to watch for two reasons, and two reasons only;
A) Our playing staff are inadequate. Not necessarily because they aren't talented but because we lack physical speed and power in keys areas
B) It takes two to tango and in virtually every game we play the opposition stick 10 behind the ball at all times
At no point, ever, does van Gaal say to the players "I want you to pass backwards". Whether you love him, hate him or indifferent if you think van Gaal is the reason we are boring lets see how bored we all are when we get a new manager and we play open, expansive football and get beat
These are the type of wins that used to win us titles.
Yes, but the boring/poor wins, used to be mixed with some great performances.I don't know how long you've supported Utd but there were loads of games like this under SAF.They were usually at the back end of the season and we were fighting for the title.People do have selective amnesia when it comes to Utd performances
I agree and I also think that the above is the general feeling by many of us United supporters.Yeah I agree with your post 100%. I could tolerate a 'professional' performance from a Fergie team a couple of times a season, but watching this crap currently (which is much worse then any Fergie performance) every game nearly for 18 months has actually killed my love for football. When Van Gaal is announced to stay on in a few weeks I think that will be my queue to take a break from going to OT and watching every game religiously. I'll watch when I'm not doing anything. Sick of wasting multiple hours per week to watch something so bad.
THIS,I really don't want us to get top 4 but then I think of Man City in the CL again and I think .. feck it, they're even worse. Honestly the only english team which would actually be refreshing to watch in the CL next year would be Liverpool.
THIS,I'd rather not watch CL next season than endure another one with LvG.
...AND THIS!I had zero emotion when our goal went in, and zero tension in the last few minutes about Norwich scoring, cheers LvG you've just about totally killed my love for the game.
I am still absolutely amazed by the amount of people who even now after two years of tumescent, drossy shite will STILL make excuses for van Gaal and justify hes existence at the club!So because Van Gaal has bought poor and let the squad turn into crap we should happy and accept it?
LVG won't directly say 'pass backwards' but his game plan is possession football from the back and he doesn't like adventure and risk taking so that results in the tumescent backwards football we play.
When we get a new manager the football is GUARANTEED to be better then this. If you think otherwise then we have finally found out who the 'Van Gaal happy clappers' are.
I wish I could feel like this, I think I used up all my tension and emotion for us getting top 4 last season in the expectation of not been in a worse potion 12 months later.It was an awful game but a win is a win at the end of the day and West Ham losing has made it even more important.
I knew our away record was poor but that pretty much sums up the position we're in. I stand corrected, I am sure the commentator mentioned that before the Norwich game we had only beaten Villa(only just) away from home against the bottom 8(losses to Swansea, west brom, Sunderland and Bournemouth. Draws against Newcastle and Palace. Now beat Norwich and Villa 0-1). What is it that is preventing us from getting these results? Performing like we did today as if the 4th spot was already out of reach, our attack was as uncreative as Norwich's.
5001/1Hands up anyone who thinks Van Gaal and this team can challenge for the title next season.
Yes I think you do have selective amnesia here.I don't know how long you've supported Utd but there were loads of games like this under SAF.They were usually at the back end of the season and we were fighting for the title.People do have selective amnesia when it comes to Utd performances
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.I can't take another season of this tumescent football.
I thought man of the match was the default Martial or De Gea this seasonWhy is Martial in the player ratings?
I think you are being actually kind to the performance. I would have called us absolutely crap. We didn't really have to defend the lead as Norwich had very poor quality in their strikers.In what way did I make us sound better than we were?
Today was a very typical performance under Van Gaal. Possession, possession, possesion and little to no end product. Once we scored the goal, we were able to defend the lead, which, in a way, has been one of our very few postives this season.
Its the attitude of the average football fan that is the problem. The vast majority bleat on about building for the future, blooding the kids, developing a style, dominating football matches and winning trophies year after year and then even after a victory sit crying into their keyboards and demanding change. How are managers supposed to build anything when fans definition of a good or bad manager is usually based on his last result?? Its a credit to our club that we are giving the initial 3 year plan every chance to succeed, because otherwise you become Liverpool - appoint a manager, win a cup, buy some players, turns to shit, sack the manager, sell the players, new manager, repeat.I am still absolutely amazed by the amount of people who even now after two years of tumescent, drossy shite will STILL make excuses for van Gaal and justify hes existence at the club!
Absolutely amazing!
On his last result??? For feck's sake man, where have you been the last two years??? You really think another year is going to be different? I don't think anybody on here would've complained if we hadn't won anything during the last three years if at least the football was half decent and we could see some progress...we all expected some transition. But considering the time and expense that van Gaal has had, more so than Moyes, he's done nothing to move us forward...nothing!Its the attitude of the average football fan that is the problem. The vast majority bleat on about building for the future, blooding the kids, developing a style, dominating football matches and winning trophies year after year and then even after a victory sit crying into their keyboards and demanding change. How are managers supposed to build anything when fans definition of a good or bad manager is usually based on his last result?? Its a credit to our club that we are giving the initial 3 year plan every chance to succeed, because otherwise you become Liverpool - appoint a manager, win a cup, buy some players, turns to shit, sack the manager, sell the players, new manager, repeat.
I agree, the football has been dire and doesn't look like it will change greatly. Also he has lowered the clubs fans expectations to zero. We just want to be competitive and play entertaining football. That actually isn't much to ask.On his last result??? For feck's sake man, where have you been the last two years??? You really think another year is going to be different? I don't think anybody on here would've complained if we hadn't won anything during the last three years if at least the football was half decent and we could see some progress...we all expected some transition. But considering the time and expense that van Gaal has had, more so than Moyes, he's done nothing to move us forward...nothing!
I didn't think there were many of you left but feck me!!! You deserve some medal or something for your blind optimism!
Didn't you say you fell asleep at least four times, though?I think you are being actually kind to the performance. I would have called us absolutely crap. We didn't really have to defend the lead as Norwich had very poor quality in their strikers.
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