I'm not disagreeing, I think the same. Just replying to a post that suggested we were lucky/gifted. There's a difference between luck and some (earned) fortune.true but we had to give ourselves the chance to be lucky and we went about it the only way we could in this game by being on point early in the game and grabbing a goal thereby setting some panic in the PSG ranks who have had form for bottling it and being in the game until the very end where we allow their nerves to perhaps get the better of them and wait to capitalise on mistakes. Now that i say it out loud it sounds so Mourinhoesque.
We had nothing to lose and played like it, i'm glad we didn't throw the game away in light of personnel non-availability and more important fixtures but that we stuck at it. The old united is well and truly back. Going into the final few minutes when nothing looked like happening i was still happy even though we were going out as we had done immeasurably better than anyone ever gave us a chance of doing and were winning away at Paris with a threadbare lineup and a lot of squad players and reserves starting but i guess it was probably just karma and destiny that saw us through. It still needed the belief though like Lukaku and Ole said.
CL W Champions League Round of 16 2nd Leg
Paris St Germain 1:3 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Wed, 06 March 2019
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I think if they sold Mbappe, that would be curtains for PSG. No chance for me, even if he wanted to.
PSG really bottled this. They saw we were against the ropes and instead of bringing in Cavani and making our life difficult Tuchel chose to do nothing and see the game out.
Pure fight and pure luck too. But luck is part of the game.
Di Maria is a top player but has to viewed as a super sub if all the players are fit.
I don't want to enter into details regarding the previous campaigns but each result is explained by 4-5 different reasons. The lack of experience has never been a proper explanation.
It would be time-consuming to explain each game.
Fully disagree. Cavani/Neymar/M'bappé is a complimentary trio.
Crikey. I think that's the most scathing putdown of a footballer I've ever read.
To one another but not to the other eight players on the pitch. Very often they show no inclination to maintain team shape in transition and leave all the defending to other people. That leads PSG to be a fragmented team at times. Fine against lesser opponents but it will be exposed against better teams.
Ronaldinho and Eto'o were better players than Pedro and Villa, however Pedro and Villa were more complementary to Messi and to a more rounded team game and that took Barcelona to the next level. PSG could learn from that instead of persuing the Galacticos strategy. Its important to remember that Madrid won relatively little during the original Galacticos period. In the second they had to sideline Kaka and a variety of other stars to make the team work for Ronaldo.
PSG could become a better unit without Cavani and Neymar.
Massive result. We needed that after the last mind numbing year.
The team need to snap back and refocus as soon as possible though. We have Arsenal next in a game which could be crucial for a top 4 finish. Then we play Wolves away in the FA cup, which is our best chance of a trophy this season in my opinion.
The team need to snap back and refocus as soon as possible though. We have Arsenal next in a game which could be crucial for a top 4 finish. Then we play Wolves away in the FA cup, which is our best chance of a trophy this season in my opinion.
I'm still on a massive high from that. Haven't felt that from a result in a long long time.
When the ref gave the penalty I didn't know what to do with myself. Was pacing up and down having heart palpitations just muttering "come on Marcus" over and over
Can't remember the last time a manager was so adored by the players. I obviously think we should appoint him but we don't have to do it right now still. It's a nice little morale booster/trump card we can play at any point during the season.
When the ref gave the penalty I didn't know what to do with myself. Was pacing up and down having heart palpitations just muttering "come on Marcus" over and over
Can't remember the last time a manager was so adored by the players. I obviously think we should appoint him but we don't have to do it right now still. It's a nice little morale booster/trump card we can play at any point during the season.
But listen to pundits and rival fans
PSG bottled it
They were missing Neymar
Ole is overrated
united were lucky
United didn’t play football
But hey PSG should have been red carded at OT, but hey let’s forget that, because it’s ABU for a reason
And to sum it up, ole did it with united reserves
They compliment each other fine, but probably unbalance the whole team. No doubt they function well as an attacking trident, but offer very little on the other side of the pitch. As such, the rest of the team gets stretched & probably aren't used to seeing games out when under a bit of pressure.
At this time, neither Neymar or Mbappe seem ready to defer to one another like Benzema did for CRonaldo. Not that they 'need to' to make it work, but add in Cavani and you have less resources to build upon in the back. RM got away with it due to Benzema doing yeoman's work, plus having much better defenders. PSG probably would be better served playing 2 up front, or at least replace Cavani (Di Maria, when he could be arsed like at OT is the idea).
Back in the day we called it the Big Red Machine and it usually became unstoppable around the beginning of March. Plus ca change or something.
I got the feeling from the first minute that PSG was too uptight about the match. The Bernat goal calmed them down (more evidence that Bailly is not going to be here after the summer... playing Mbappe onside, then strolling around as if it was a Sunday kick about). Ole didn’t hesitate, realized Bailly was not up to the task, and subbed Dalot in immediately.
I do think the first half was dominated by PSG. We played better in the 2nd half. The breakaway slip by Mbappe was lucky for us. But the 65th minute onwards, PSG got nervous.
The penalty was clearly karma payback for Kimpembe not getting sent off in the first leg. And guess what. I don’t care. On to the quarters!
I do think the first half was dominated by PSG. We played better in the 2nd half. The breakaway slip by Mbappe was lucky for us. But the 65th minute onwards, PSG got nervous.
The penalty was clearly karma payback for Kimpembe not getting sent off in the first leg. And guess what. I don’t care. On to the quarters!
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Never thought we would win this tie, not when this draw was made or any time up to the final whistle. Great result!
Someone needs to make a compilation of their showboating over the two legs and then their faces at the end!!!
Not gonna lie, im still reeling after a night of celebrations.. its the manner in which we won it. If we scored early and just defended like hell, it wouldn't be the same as a late late winner with all the drama and passion. That's why it was so emotional. You simply cannot script it any better than that.I'm still on a massive high from that. Haven't felt that from a result in a long long time.
When the ref gave the penalty I didn't know what to do with myself. Was pacing up and down having heart palpitations just muttering "come on Marcus" over and over
Can't remember the last time a manager was so adored by the players. I obviously think we should appoint him but we don't have to do it right now still. It's a nice little morale booster/trump card we can play at any point during the season.
Unbelievable, I put money on at 11/2 Just to win but more in hope, what a pen under pressure. Best night since 99.
Has anyone calmed down yet?
I still feel all weird and fuzzy about it all
I sit next to a scouser at work, and the silly bastard didn't even try to be controversial. The only real let down.
I still feel all weird and fuzzy about it all
I sit next to a scouser at work, and the silly bastard didn't even try to be controversial. The only real let down.
Did the ref blow yet?
Still buzzing
Watched us win last night in a bar in Malta with a load of PSG supporters who were chanting throughout the game and believed they had it in the bag. They all walked out when Rashford scored and I started going crazy! I was also in a bar in Rome last year when we beat Liverpool 2-1. I need to go on holiday more often
Saw the Neymar comments on the refs today. Should surely get fined or something. Bang out of order.
I'm trying to be measured about the game and I freely concede that on some level PSG bottled it.
Whilst Bailly was on the pitch they dominated play and should have scored a brace.
Individual PSG players made mistakes that lead to our first 2 goals, but these mistakes came from pressure exerted by a third string midfield from us.
That this team played with such belief is to the credit of the management team. The fact that Ole kept changing things up front kept PSG from settling into concerted attacking pressure.
Did we get a bit of luck? Yes we did. But we kept going with immense belief and teamwork.
PSG may talk of "curses" but I think they failed to raise their game. They're used to winning easily and teams giving up when playing them...Not this side!
Whilst Bailly was on the pitch they dominated play and should have scored a brace.
Individual PSG players made mistakes that lead to our first 2 goals, but these mistakes came from pressure exerted by a third string midfield from us.
That this team played with such belief is to the credit of the management team. The fact that Ole kept changing things up front kept PSG from settling into concerted attacking pressure.
Did we get a bit of luck? Yes we did. But we kept going with immense belief and teamwork.
PSG may talk of "curses" but I think they failed to raise their game. They're used to winning easily and teams giving up when playing them...Not this side!
Johnathan Wilson nailed it on the Guardian podcast. What Ole did was put us in the best possible spot to capitalise from whatever luck fell our way
PSG have no excuse, I mean they should have watched us do the Saints just days ago.
Where are the match highlights? Aren’t they usually updated in the first post?
it's all nonsense and sour grapes. even his player said "we need to eat our own sh*t". they bottled it to be very simple.
I’m still buzzing about what happened last night, proud of the boys.
I went a bit mad celebrating last night and didn’t get any sleep as I got in at 6:30am with work the next day at 9am.
Needless to say, I’m absolutely battered, but it was worth it.
I went a bit mad celebrating last night and didn’t get any sleep as I got in at 6:30am with work the next day at 9am.
Needless to say, I’m absolutely battered, but it was worth it.
That's a fine example of a manager that can't accept the fact that there are several ways to achieve your goal in football. you make your luck.
They played into our hands, the plan was always to try and get the first goal so that we're in the game. Ole even said before the game that the plan is to get a first goal, and try to be one goal from qualification in the last 15/20 minutes. that's exactly what the team did, there was no need to try to attack and score considering that we got a goal in the first few minutes. from that point, it was always about not conceding until the last 15 minutes of the game and then go all out attack. that's what we did, and it paid off.
Coming up with things like that he looks like an inexperienced manager that got outplayed by an actually inexperienced manager.
Ole's gameplan worked to perfection, We needed some luck, we got it. they had plenty of luck in the first leg, it should have never finished at 0-2 with the Kimpebe red card.
i dashed up to bed straight after the final whistle as I have to be up at 4.15 for work. It took me well past midnight to fall asleep - buzzing!
Yesterday I kept talking we will win 2-4, and go to next round, my colleges were laughing their heads off. Some placed bets on PSG hendicap.. I told them they are wrong, and should bet on United handicap. They did not believe me, thinking, a fan talking rubbish, PSG at home, blah, you have injuries, blah, Pogba suspended, blah, I said:"I see it in my crystal ball, and I feel it in my ovaries!" They laughed. Told them: "See ya losers tomorrow, I will be the smilling one." Went home.
Today, aaaah. Best day ever, went to work, walked into my office like a peacock, with a huge smile on my face, and everybody congratulated me. I said: "What did I tell you all yesterday?" They said that something is wrong with my crystal ball because I sad 2-4, I told them I'm happy with it, couldn't care less, and started singing Ole's at the wheel.
Don't know why, they were avoiding me whole day, but I was nice.
Still buzzing
Today, aaaah. Best day ever, went to work, walked into my office like a peacock, with a huge smile on my face, and everybody congratulated me. I said: "What did I tell you all yesterday?" They said that something is wrong with my crystal ball because I sad 2-4, I told them I'm happy with it, couldn't care less, and started singing Ole's at the wheel.
Don't know why, they were avoiding me whole day, but I was nice.
Still buzzing
I fully understand your rationale and thanks for taking the time to explain your your way of thinking.
Unfortunately, I have to disagree with you today and I don't think you could find a single PSG fan saying the team is better without Neymar: he's just our offensive leader #1 and he makes the team and especially M'bappé better and more unpredictable. The partnership M'bappé/Neymar is just our biggest asset: Neymar is always looking for Kylian.
Regarding the balance of the team, it's true the offensive trio didn't do the job at Anfield but since that 1st loss of the season, they made more efforts since.
That said, you may find some PSG fans saying the team is better without Cavani.
Still can't believe we won.
At one stage, PSG played a throughball, my feed froze, and when it came up, the ball was in the net. It just felt inevitable, and "we need 2 now" and it seemed impossible.
Then I realised play was going on, and it was offside! One of a number of great moments yesterday!
At one stage, PSG played a throughball, my feed froze, and when it came up, the ball was in the net. It just felt inevitable, and "we need 2 now" and it seemed impossible.
Then I realised play was going on, and it was offside! One of a number of great moments yesterday!
Cavani sacrificed in some specific big games can make sense when he isn't in a great shape (see his games against Madrid last season).
Is this result, and the way it transpired, better than if we'd won 1-0 in both legs with two comfortable performances?
Rio meets Thomas Tuchel on BT2 now.Thanks Rio. You helped.
I'm still in shock. Feels like a dream.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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9%
Chris Smalling
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7%
Marcus Rashford
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6%
Scott McTominay
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4%
Fred
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3%
Luke Shaw
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3%
Victor Lindelof
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2%
Diogo Dalot
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
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Compiled from 695 ratings.
Score Predictions
253,259,56
- Man Utd win
- PSG win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 19% PSG 1:3 Man Utd
- 13% PSG 2:1 Man Utd
- 11% PSG 2:0 Man Utd
- 10% PSG 3:1 Man Utd
- 8% PSG 0:3 Man Utd
- 7% PSG 3:0 Man Utd
- 7% PSG 1:2 Man Utd
- 6% PSG 1:1 Man Utd
- 5% PSG 0:2 Man Utd
- 3% PSG 2:2 Man Utd
- 2% PSG 1:0 Man Utd
- 2% PSG 1:4 Man Utd
- 2% PSG 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% PSG 4:0 Man Utd
- 1% PSG 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% PSG 0:1 Man Utd
- 1% PSG 4:1 Man Utd
- 1% PSG 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% PSG 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% PSG 2:4 Man Utd
- 0% PSG 3:4 Man Utd
- 0% PSG 2:3 Man Utd
- 0% PSG 3:5 Man Utd
- 0% PSG 2:5 Man Utd
- 0% PSG 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% PSG 4:2 Man Utd
Match Stats
- PSG
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 72% 28%
- Shots
- 12 5
- Shots on Target
- 4 4
- Corners
- 4 0
- Fouls
- 9 15
Referee
Damir Skomina
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Diogo Dalot
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replaced by Mason Greenwood
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replaced by Tahith Chong
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