CL L Champions League Group H

Manchester United 1:3 Paris St Germain

Post-match discussion


Wed, 02 December 2020

Bunch of bottlers, don't want to see Martial in this team again for a while. PSG were shite and there for the taking. Ole is also stupid for not taking off Fred even if that challenge wasn't a yellow, just awful subs and game management from him today. We're going back to Europa

Referee can get fecked as well, babied PSG when their only tactics were to go down every time they were touched and try to get our players sent off. Disgusting game.
 
2 Critical errors here:

1 - keeping Fred on
2 - Going balls to the wall and losing H2H with PSG.

We now have to beat RB Leipzig.

Completely changes the dynamic.

I'm usually alright with Ole but this was poor from him tonight.

Fred should have a word
Martial should have a word

Awful performances from both.

A draw will do v Leipzig.
 
On Ole and Martial. I want to see the media destroy Martial in the next week.
He should be dropped out of the match squad next match.
 
cnuts. Feels undeserved but we brought it on ourselves. Finish your fecking chances. So many times in the recent past it's cost us. Ref fecked us today with the 2nd yellow to get a comeback, but they had already taken the lead just before against the run of play. Not taking our chances was what cost us today.

Ole fecked up by not subbing Fred, regardless of it being a horrendous decision to give the 2nd yellow. Was always going to be a moment and it was painfully obvious.
 
Stupid game. We were quite good, but everybody and their blind grandmother could see Fred was getting sent off today. Take him off. Feck me.
 
Ole cost us the game with his stupid "I'm not subbing Fred" thing.
Martial needs to be moved on in my opinion. Such a moody player, can't be a vital psrt of the team with this type of player.
 
1. Martial let down the team

2. Ole let down the team by not subbing off Fred

Such is the United way, make it difficult for ourselves
 
Amateur staff and a team with zero bottle.

We'll most likely fold to a 2-0 loss in Leipzig and go out as we CANNOT play under pressure.
 
We could have won that. Bizarre that Ole didn’t make the obvious sub. I suppose he never does.
 
Losing the game in Istanbul and then this.
Even if we get through, there is a massive chance we will get raped by the likes of Barca or Bayern
I’d fancy us against Barca, but not with Martial up front. Cavani needs to be first choice.
 
Can't believe last season people were genuinely arguing that Martial is better than Kane and in some fantasy world where Spurs would offer us a straight swap, they still wouldn't take it.
 
If Fred was taken off, there was only one team winning the game. Of course it was a terrible decision by the ref, but anyone could see anymore 50 50's and Fred was off.

Just can't get my head around it to be honest.
 
Martial should have buried that chance. No excuses. You simply have to score that.

Cannot for the life of me understand why Fred was not taken off at 60. Bad management from Ole.

PSG are cnuts as well.
 
I have no idea how Ole kept Fred on in the second...
 
That was horrific. Not the performance, but the game management. We're so reactive it's actually painful.

About 95% of people knew Fred had to be taken off. The reason he lasted so long in the second is because he stopped making tackles.

Stevie Wonder could see that!!!

No subs till the red, leaving an underperforming Bruno on, what looks an injured Rashford.

Martial and Solksjaer cost us the game.
 
Bruno screaming at Ole to make changes reminded me of that game years back when Stevie Me was reacting to Torres being subbed off by Benitez; struck me as a moment of loss of faith.
 
we are better than psg in every way. unfortunately we have a spineless manager who hasnt the balls to bench a player whos been performing way below the level.. im speaking on martial. also our manaer is blind and spineless to not sub fred at half time seein ghow rash he was in the first lucky to still be on.
 
We actually played decent football, shame we completely threw the game. Of course it doesn't help when Martial couldn't hit a barn door with a homing missile, not to mention Ole's bizarre substitutions (or there lack of with Fred).
 
De Gea - 5
Wan-Bissaka - 5
Lindelof - 5
Maguire - 6
Telles - 6
Fred - 2
McTominay - 4
Fernandes - 3
Rashford - 4
Martial - 2
Cavani - 6

Ole - 2
 
This thread will be full of the usual hyperbolic g-fuel lunatics on one side, and the defend Ole no matter what lunatics on the other.

It's borderline unforgivable that Fred wasn't took off at half time, and borderline mentally deficient he wasn't took off when Herrera was brought on.
 
I honestly can't believe how shit our finishing is this season. How many chances do we want?
 
Poor game management Fred was never going to have the discipline to see out the second half. Amazed to see him after the break especially with five subs available
 
Some fans with red blindfolds on wont see the utter incompetence of our manager...give him another year or another 10 years, his team won't be capable of winning anything. If that is acceptable, well...enjoy!
 
Losing the game in Istanbul and then this. Feel so sorry for Cavani...
Even if we get through, there is a massive chance we will get raped by the likes of Barca or Bayern
Barca? They are no better than PSG who we should have beaten tonight.
 
Not subbing Fred was criminal. Martial not burying that chance is just as bad but the entire viewing public could see Fred needed to come off, even if he didn’t deserve that second yellow he was walking a fine line throughout.
 
Martial brutal. Set piece defending like schoolboys for 2 years. The usual things costing us, plus solskjaers appalling decision re Fred. Deserved to lose
 
How is this on Ole?
Because Martial couldn't finish easy chances?
Or because Fred was sent off for not-a-foul?
Because as I say a million times on this forum

He. Does. Not. React. Quickly. With. Subs

Seriously, I have had enough explaining how inept he is at game managing and reacting to situations. He got it wrong today
 

Player Ratings

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Score Predictions

93,43,79
  • Man Utd win
  • PSG win
  • Draw

Detailed Results

  • 27% Man Utd 1:1 PSG
  • 21% Man Utd 2:1 PSG
  • 9% Man Utd 1:2 PSG
  • 9% Man Utd 2:2 PSG
  • 7% Man Utd 0:2 PSG
  • 6% Man Utd 1:0 PSG
  • 6% Man Utd 2:0 PSG
  • 5% Man Utd 3:1 PSG
  • 2% Man Utd 3:0 PSG
  • 2% Man Utd 3:2 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 0:0 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 1:3 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 0:1 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 0:3 PSG
  • 1% Man Utd 4:1 PSG
  • 0% Man Utd 4:0 PSG
  • 0% Man Utd 0:5 PSG
  • 0% Man Utd 4:3 PSG
  • 0% Man Utd 2:3 PSG
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Match Stats

  1. Man Utd
  2. PSG
Possession
44% 56%
Shots
12 13
Shots on Target
5 6
Corners
3 5
Fouls
20 10

Referee

Daniele Orsato