But I’m not arguing that Wan Bissaka wasn’t bad. I’m arguing that regardless of how bad he was, the rest of the team were terrible too. It wasn’t Wan Bissaka’s fault nobody was defending the far post for their second. It wasn’t his fault that when somebody got past him that none of our three centre backs, other full back or two defensive midfielders bothered to pick up the guy unmarked on the penalty spot. Or that we didn’t set up to play football or give our forwards any chance of getting the ball.
CL L Champions League Group H
RB Leipzig 3:2 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Tue, 08 December 2020
How can one defend that performance. Absolute piss poor management, which to be honest should be expected, but then not making any changes until have, time, Then to think that Telles, Shaw and Williams, TFM, Axel all played in a match we were trying to win.
Ole at the Wheel
Ole at the Wheel
Ole completely at fault with tactics and lineup alone, hello owners ? Anymore proof that this guy doesn't know shit about management? When you've got the likes of Poch and Allegri just sitting there?
We can fully concentrate on winning the league now.
I guess Greenwood and like can go back to scoring against plumbers while we go back to hyping them up as generational talents.
That team selection was terrible. Playing a back 5 with 2 further statues in McT & Matic sat in front was just inviting them to attack us from the 1st minute. There was just no outlet, it was really poor by Solskjaer. AWB positioning cost us again and what was DDG doing for their 3rd goal. Ive enjoyed what OGS has done, but this team aint winning shit. Feel sorry for Bruno, deserves better than these Europa League blaggers.
They cant. We are officially out of the champions league.
Who’s come on to say we were unlucky?
we were shit for a lot if it. The guy is clueless and these games will happen again and again till we find a coach that has some tactical acumen
we were shit for a lot if it. The guy is clueless and these games will happen again and again till we find a coach that has some tactical acumen
We badly needed Fellaini today. And I'm only half kidding.
For the first time since his appointment, and with a heavy heart, I'm calling for Ole's head. I desperately wanted him to be successful here but it's clearer every day he never will be. Tactically inferior and apparently unable to motivate our players. This team is less than the sum of its parts and that shouldn't be the case.
I didn’t watch the game but it sounds like Spanish Mike Dean had another masterclass
Out because we were so bad and with no balls. We could have been 4 down n'y half time. Out because of Istanbul...
Playing 5 defenders and 2 defensive midfielders and still not being able to defend. We are a joke.
In a wider view the sooner we adopt rugby unions time management the better. The amount of time wasting allowed was poor for a micro manager like tonight‘s ref.
How did they get away with that last chance? Its either an own goal or a tap in.
Fun fact: had we not conceded a third goal last week, an Istanbul win would actually save us.
OK, it's more like a depressing fact.
The danger is that the board likes him and Ole is capable of winning just enough to keep them happy but not enough to improve us further. We're in danger of just existing in this weird zone of acceptable mediocrity.
This! If I didn't have a haircut yesterday, I'd have torn it all out. If Shaw was gonna go off, then why take Telles off first?! The Tuanzebe and TFM changes defy belief. Like he had given up and was just giving players minutes. You'll always be our legend Ole, but it's time to go. You've done your resetting job. It's time to actually move forward.
Believe it or not our defense is still crap!
On a positive note its a nail in Oles coffin. As much as a love the player. I think he needs to go
On a positive note its a nail in Oles coffin. As much as a love the player. I think he needs to go
Yes please. feck that bullshit and just concentrate on the league.
Unless Telles hurt himself going into the dressing room at half-time it makes no sense whatsoever.
If we start with DvB we win this match as the issue in the first half was clearly our midfield getting dominated and Matic and McTomminay not providing support to Bruno.
Second half it changed as soon as DvB came on.
Also Ole used the exact same tactics he used when we beat Leipzig, obviously their manager will adapt tactically expecting it.
Genuinely, the difference was in the two managers. We clearly have the better players.
Second half it changed as soon as DvB came on.
Also Ole used the exact same tactics he used when we beat Leipzig, obviously their manager will adapt tactically expecting it.
Genuinely, the difference was in the two managers. We clearly have the better players.
I thought we would do 352 but with VDB who can pass and move.
The team, the tactics, the subs, from start to finish were just bonkers, utterly bizarre. So many aspects of tonight were a mess.
Should feel more gutted but quite frankly we got what we deserved for taking beating Istanbul for granted. We showed tonight that we weren't winning this competition with such a woeful defence
He was facing Angelino in the build up for the second, but instead of staying on him, he wanders off then doesn't press him before the cross. It's basic stuff.
We were lucky to come out of that first half just 2-0 down. It could have been 4 and should have been 3. The setup wasn't working as soon as it were were down 2, so why not make a formation change right there and there? Why wait till half time and waste close to 30 minutes? This team needed as much time as possible to get on the front foot and we wasted precious minutes in the first half. Those minutes are just as important as the 80-90 mins.
I'm sicking of seeing this wet lettuce apologizing.
The problem with counter attack style is you need to be able to defend and soak pressure up.
We had qualification in our hands in three games pretty much and blew all three. It’s a disaster not getting out of that group once we had such a strong position. Yeah before the CL kicked off it looked doubtful but come on, this fecking hurts.
Thought RB were average.
Incredibly shite defending from us and both of our fowards wasting a couple of good chances in the first half made the difference.
Incredibly shite defending from us and both of our fowards wasting a couple of good chances in the first half made the difference.
Someone want to explain those subs please?
We need to score and he brings on Williams, Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah
Could understand one of Tuanzebe/Fosu for speed at the back to prevent a counter but what a waste of the other two.
Really can’t be arsed with europa league
We need to score and he brings on Williams, Tuanzebe and Fosu-Mensah
Could understand one of Tuanzebe/Fosu for speed at the back to prevent a counter but what a waste of the other two.
Really can’t be arsed with europa league
The subs literally changed the game
Hahahaha ofcourse Rio and Scholes blame De Gea and defend slowest and most overrated defender in the history of PL. Good to be English!
Getting hammered on Talksport. They are saying about AWB, but said he got hung out to dry as no help given at all, also that he was playing RWB as if they were playing a flat back four.
Yes, he defended poorly. They all did. Wan Bissaka is not the sole reason for us losing. We were put on the back foot and exposed his weaknesses with the team selection.
We lost, so Ole is responsible.
However imo the tactic and plan was right. It's logical to sit back and counter this match. But to do that, we must defend well first. Our defenders should be ashamed of themselves today. Truth is their three goals were very simple and very very easy. Exactly like the Sevilla match last season. Our defenders and keeper were like they simply didn't exist.
However imo the tactic and plan was right. It's logical to sit back and counter this match. But to do that, we must defend well first. Our defenders should be ashamed of themselves today. Truth is their three goals were very simple and very very easy. Exactly like the Sevilla match last season. Our defenders and keeper were like they simply didn't exist.
1st half we were shambolic. 2nd half was excellent but as I said in match day it was going to be too late. Wrong starting lineup & a defensive meltdown for all the goals lost the game for us.
And a DM so we never have to play McTominay ever again.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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25%
Paul Pogba
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14%
Mason Greenwood
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6%
Scott McTominay
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3%
Donny van de Beek
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1%
David de Gea
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1%
Marcus Rashford
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1%
Victor Lindelof
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1%
Timothy Fosu-Mensah
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1%
Nemanja Matic
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1%
Luke Shaw
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 272 ratings.
Score Predictions
127,48,71
- Man Utd win
- RB Leipzig win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 23% RB Leipzig 1:2 Man Utd
- 15% RB Leipzig 1:1 Man Utd
- 13% RB Leipzig 2:2 Man Utd
- 11% RB Leipzig 2:1 Man Utd
- 10% RB Leipzig 1:3 Man Utd
- 4% RB Leipzig 2:3 Man Utd
- 4% RB Leipzig 0:2 Man Utd
- 3% RB Leipzig 0:3 Man Utd
- 3% RB Leipzig 0:1 Man Utd
- 3% RB Leipzig 2:0 Man Utd
- 1% RB Leipzig 2:4 Man Utd
- 1% RB Leipzig 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% RB Leipzig 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% RB Leipzig 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% RB Leipzig 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% RB Leipzig 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% RB Leipzig 0:4 Man Utd
- 1% RB Leipzig 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% RB Leipzig 3:3 Man Utd
- 0% RB Leipzig 4:0 Man Utd
- 0% RB Leipzig 4:2 Man Utd
- 0% RB Leipzig 5:0 Man Utd
- 0% RB Leipzig 1:4 Man Utd
- 0% RB Leipzig 5:5 Man Utd
Match Stats
- RB Leipzig
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 45% 55%
- Shots
- 9 19
- Shots on Target
- 4 8
- Corners
- 4 10
- Fouls
- 18 7
Referee
Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Axel Tuanzebe
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replaced by Brandon Williams
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replaced by Donny van de Beek
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replaced by Timothy Fosu-Mensah
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replaced by Paul Pogba
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